Topic: Top Welterweights - 170 lbs.
Lets discuss our WW rankings
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12.16.2012 | 5:31 PM ET
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12.16.2012 | 5:35 PM ET
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12.16.2012 | 5:36 PM ET
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12.16.2012 | 5:36 PM ET
GSP / Condit, MacDonald / Penn, Swick / Brown, Fitch / Silva, Hendricks / Kampmann, Maia / Story, Head / Ebersole, Maia / Kim, Hardy / Ludwig,
For the moment, I am not ranking Penn, since I think he may very well retire. He isn't going back to LW. Sanchez has dropped down to LW, Charlie Brenneman has been released, Matt Hughes is retired without an announcement, Matt Serra has gained weight to 200 and shows no interest in fighting again, Jake Shields has moved back up to his natural weight class (MW) and Nate Marquardt was released.
And coming up just down the road, we have GSP / Diaz, Fitch / Maia, Erick Silva / Hieron, Condit vs. MacDonald rematch, Siyar Bahadurzada /. Dong Kim, Hendricks / Ellenberger, Hardy / Matt Brown, Ebersole / Matt Riddle Riddle.
At the moment, the following WWs are not scheduled yet for their next fights. Marty Kampmann, Rick Story, John Hathaway, Paulo Thiago, Amir Saddollah, Mike Swick, Aaron Simpson.
On the injured list presently are: Josh Koscheck, Thiago Alves.
Since your Top 10 will pop, I'd like to see everyone's #11 through whatever you have.
Here are my 11-26 WW rankings.
11. Nate Marquardt
12. Dong Hyum Kim
13. Thiago Alves
14. Paulo Thiago
15. Amir Sadollah
16. Aaron Simpson
17. John Hathaway
18. Erick Silva
19. Siyar Bahadurzada
20. Rick Story
21. Dan Hardy
22. Paul Daley
23. TJ Waldburger
23. Brian Ebersole
24. Matt Brown
25. Mike Swick
26. Karo Parisyan
27. Mike Pyle
28. Colton Smith
29. Mike Pierce,
30. Duane Ludwig
31. Matt Riddle
* Edited at 12.16.2012, 7:42 PM ET *
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12.16.2012 | 5:37 PM ET
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12.16.2012 | 5:51 PM ET
Maia, Pierce, Askren, or Pyle could be in the top ten as well...
" I feel like Davy Crockett on the walls of the Alamo, swinging Old Betsy as the enemy swarmed in with bayonets. Sheesh. Listen you young punks....." - Bill Burgess
12.16.2012 | 5:57 PM ET
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12.16.2012 | 6:06 PM ET
Btw why is Fitch on NR 2 in your ranking ? He didn't beat any fighter in your top 10, it makes no sense....
" I feel like Davy Crockett on the walls of the Alamo, swinging Old Betsy as the enemy swarmed in with bayonets. Sheesh. Listen you young punks....." - Bill Burgess
12.16.2012 | 6:07 PM ET
"She be curvin all the locals, must like foreigns and this is when I had the Martin, I was just like Lawrence so wassup"
12.16.2012 | 6:09 PM ET
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12.16.2012 | 6:17 PM ET
12.16.2012 | 6:24 PM ET
12.16.2012 | 6:42 PM ET
He also drew with BJ Penn when Matrix ranked Penn #4. He looked great in the process, yet Penn wasn't dropped, so why would Fitch?
When Fitch beat Sanchez vis Split Decision, Sanchez was like MacDonald is today. The hot rising star, with a 17-2 record. And Sanchez had beaten Karo Parisyan and Nick Diaz when those 3 comprised the backbone of the division.
When Fitch beat Paulo Thiago, Paulo was another hot rising star with a 11-0 record. Fitch issued him his first L. When Fitch beat tough Luigi Fioravanti, he was another rising star. Luigi sported a 11-1 record when he fought Jon.
The question is not why I rank Fitch high, but why you rank him 7th. Since he was solidly entrenched at #2, why should 1 bad fight with Hendricks cause him to be dropped at all? Most top guys are not dropped by a single fight.
So, the question is in your court, die.
* Edited at 12.16.2012, 6:44 PM ET *
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12.16.2012 | 6:56 PM ET
Recently Fitch just beat Silva who wasn't top ten and fought to a draw with Penn who wasn't really ranked but a guy named Johny Hendricks beat very good fighters recently in Mike Pierce (top 15) TJ Waldburger (top 20) and 3 top ten foes in a row, Kampmann, Koscheck and oh yeah that's right JON FITCH !!!
Stop living in the past Bill, your ranking is biased and you know it...
" I feel like Davy Crockett on the walls of the Alamo, swinging Old Betsy as the enemy swarmed in with bayonets. Sheesh. Listen you young punks....." - Bill Burgess
12.16.2012 | 6:57 PM ET
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12.16.2012 | 7:04 PM ET
He beat Penn when Matrix had Penn at #4, yet you live in denial? It's you who are biased. As long as Fitch doesn't slip in his skills, I do not think he will lose again. I am objective.
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12.16.2012 | 7:05 PM ET
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12.16.2012 | 7:05 PM ET
Just letting you know. Johny Hendricks has 3 top 5 wins in his last 3 fights. Rory has 0 top 10 in his entire career. I wouldn't be surprised that if Hendricks has more top 5 wins than Fitch.
* Edited at 12.16.2012, 7:06 PM ET *
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12.16.2012 | 7:07 PM ET
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12.16.2012 | 7:08 PM ET
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12.16.2012 | 7:10 PM ET
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