Topic: Top Middleweights - 185 lbs.

After Jacare's loss....

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jersey0525
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09.13.2011 | 2:47 PM ET

how far does he drop in your rankings? how far does rockhold move up?

as for me, jacare fell just one spot to 4, and rockhold cracked my top 10

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AnAlias
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09.13.2011 | 3:13 PM ET

It was a severe blow to Jacare's standing IMO.

Rockhold hadn't fought in over a year and a half.  His biggest win was Jesse Taylor before last weekend.

Rockhold comes in at ten.  Jacare falls to the 11-15 range.
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09.13.2011 | 3:16 PM ET

out of top 10? thats harsh.. i still think he's amazing, just needs to work on cardio

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09.13.2011 | 3:26 PM ET


no there is no way he should be out of the top ten\

you just gotta move luke into the top ten also

without question it was a ******** decision (45- 50 come on!) so you cant move jacare out and i think luke has to be top ten sense he went in and fought for five rounds against the champ and (arguable) beat him

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09.13.2011 | 3:30 PM ET

@justyn shockingly..i completely agree with u..lol.. i think whoever scored it 50-45 was staring at the ring card girls for 25 minutes, but i did score it 48-47 for rockhold...with this win, rockhold moves into my top ten, while jacare remains top 5

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09.13.2011 | 3:37 PM ET

I would highly disagree with dropping Jacare out of the top 10. He's just going to struggle against good wrestlers he can't keep down, and he could improve his cardio a little more, but it's not like was terribly gassed. And I will not put Rockhold above him, as I scored it for Jacare, it was close either way, and Rockhold did show good TDD, cardio, and versatile striking. So he cracks the top 10. I'm not sure how a fight with Kennedy would go though and I don't see him beating anyone above him on my list.

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09.13.2011 | 3:38 PM ET

Neither are top 10 in my opinion. Both just outside.

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09.13.2011 | 3:53 PM ET

really surprised @danno and @thiago still have okami so high...im not saying drop him completely, like i did, but dude had NOTHING to offer silva...then again...who, outside of sonnen, does?

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09.13.2011 | 4:00 PM ET

If your saying that then you should only have top 2 in middleweight.

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09.13.2011 | 4:01 PM ET

My updated rankings. I pulled Jacare out, he's at 11 if I had one. That fight was his to lose. Due to his effort's and winning the belt, I put Rockhold at 10.

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09.13.2011 | 4:02 PM ET

i also dont think palhares is better than jacare or rockhold @thiago

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09.13.2011 | 4:22 PM ET


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09.13.2011 | 4:27 PM ET

short list...

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09.13.2011 | 4:33 PM ET

Here's mine


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redkayak
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09.13.2011 | 4:44 PM ET

don't need a big one...... i like it small

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09.13.2011 | 4:51 PM ET

I need to really sit down and look over my list with some logic and compare records and such.  However, Luke Rockhold needs to be ranked above Jacare for two big reasons:  (1.) He just freakin' beat him.  (2.) He's a champion and Jacare isn't any more. 

Where my problem lies is that I don't hold Strikeforce fighters as highly esteemed as I do UFC fighters.  Anderson Silva is without question the #1 middleweight in the world, and to have him ranked any different makes that particular list wrong without any exception.  Guys like Munoz, Marquardt, Souza, Okami, Belfort, Kennedy, and Maia all deserve a place in the top ten list without question, but the order at which they should be ranked proves difficult.  I'm going to do some re-arranging - probably a couple of times - before I'm satisfied.

However, the point remains -- Luke Rockhold is a belt holder, and deserves to be ranked higher than #10.  I think Souza deserves a position within the top ten, but you can't rank Rockhold lower than Souza, so unless you can justify knocking Souza completely out of your top ten list, Rockhold should be higher than #10.

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09.13.2011 | 5:06 PM ET

Here is mine.

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09.13.2011 | 5:07 PM ET

Can't really hate that list, Kalibo.  I could see justification for the majority of it.  I just see a need to give Rockhold his due respect for beating one of the fastest rising stars in the middleweight division.  Also, Belfort staged an impressive comeback performance, but lets not forget exactly what it was -- a comeback performance.  I don't think he deserves to be rated quite as high, and have debated on withdrawing him from the top ten list completely.

* Edited at 09.13.2011, 5:08 PM ET *

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09.13.2011 | 5:08 PM ET

Our only difference is you have Rockhold and I have Stann, otherwise our lists are nearly identical.

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09.13.2011 | 6:18 PM ET

What's that?

I never had Jacare in top 10?

Well look at that!

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09.13.2011 | 6:38 PM ET

Your list is also the craziest one I've seen so far.  hahah.  You and your favs.

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