Topic: Top Welterweights - 170 lbs.
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12.16.2012 | 5:31 PM ET
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10.25.2013 | 7:45 PM ET
I don't think there is any great groundswell for rematches with Condit, Diaz or Shields.
I don't think Ellenberger is ready and Lombard has just arrived in the division. Brown and Lawler are still building up to title shots but haven't arrived just yet.
If Matt Brown wins in great style against Condit, they might fast-track him like they did Dan Hardy. But would that be a good thing?
GSP is running out of credible, viable hard contenders. What should be done?
* Edited at 10.25.2013, 7:48 PM ET *
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10.25.2013 | 7:53 PM ET
For the sake of something different I hope Hendricks lands that left hand and GSP is out cold, but not in the first round. In the 4th round after a war.
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10.26.2013 | 12:52 AM ET
But Shields vs. Kim is the natural, obvious fight to make. Would protect their high ranking and be equitable and competitive.
* Edited at 10.26.2013, 12:53 AM ET *
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10.31.2013 | 12:24 AM ET
K1 Fitch, that was one of my favorite Fitch fights ever.
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10.31.2013 | 10:43 AM ET
They have promised to waive their matching rights if the UFC gives Ben a title shot.
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10.31.2013 | 10:49 AM ET
10.31.2013 | 10:49 AM ET
I really think Lombard or Rory next is there best options. Rory vs GSP in Canada would be huge, the storyline and "bad blood" wooh. Lombard if he gets 1 or 2 more KOs everyone will think hes the one to dethrone GSP and Lombard is a natural.born hype machine.
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10.31.2013 | 1:28 PM ET
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10.31.2013 | 1:35 PM ET
Lombards not a good interviewee because he hates doing the media and all the stupid questions, hes a very standoffish guy, speaks slightly broken.english and he likes to do thw talking in the cage, he takes everything 100% serious and hates being disrespected. Im not saying Lombard is a good or nice person but hes a hype machine.
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10.31.2013 | 1:39 PM ET
His arrival was sort of spolied by his inability to deal with the bigger UFC middleweights. Give him one, maybe two more wins at welterweight and we could have him fight Georges before you know it.
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10.31.2013 | 5:23 PM ET
All those others suggested are good fighters but at this moment aren't 'ripe'. They still all need a big win to push them over the line. Lawler, Brown, Rory, Lombard, Condit.
Condit - Even if he wins, the fans are not that enthused with another title shot so soon. The same thing would happen.
Lombard - He needs a big win. He's called out Condit, but that would be down the road.
Brown - Even a win over Condit would leave him short. He would still need another big win.
MacDonald - I do wish Rory gets over his bond with GSP and fights him as a bro, but until he does, he is not yet 'available'. Wish it were different.
I personally want to see Dong fight Shields, and if Dong wins, I want that fight with GSP.
But for now, Askren is an easy fight to promote until the others build their respective cases just a little bit more. They are all close but not there at this moment.
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10.31.2013 | 5:26 PM ET
GSP, Hendricks, Dong, Ellenberger. And Shields, Maia and Diaz are all great JJ guys.
Does the UFC really want another strict wrestler after they got rid of Fitch, Okami and would like to drop Dong?
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10.31.2013 | 5:37 PM ET
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10.31.2013 | 5:40 PM ET
I think Askren is a love him or hate him type of guy, i used to really hate him but i have come to enjoy his trolling and would like to see him in the UFC. I don't know if he could dominate GSP, but I wouldn't be against seeing it.
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10.31.2013 | 5:41 PM ET
"If I have a goal, then it is to escape from this literalism. I'll never achieve it; in the same way that I'll never manage to describe what really dwells within my character, although I keep on trying."
10.31.2013 | 5:49 PM ET
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10.31.2013 | 6:08 PM ET
They also are moving away from boring, high-priced guys. They are moving away from people who don't finish fights.
They want young guys, exciting strikers who put on a show. Standup fireworks. Think Sanchez vs. Melendez.
They cut Fitch after he beat Erick Silva decisively. Cut him as soon as he lost.
Okami beat Lombard decisively. Was on a 3-win streak. They cut him as soon as he lost.
They gave Dong Siyar Bahadurzada and then Erick Silva in a row! The way to minimize a guy you don't want is to give them tough nobodies. That's what they did to Fitch, and now they're Fitching Dong Kim.
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10.31.2013 | 6:10 PM ET
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10.31.2013 | 6:21 PM ET
Dong hasn't fought for the title and really only has one legitimate loss so far, which was against a guy who later held the interim title. Maybe if Dong gets smashed against GSP and can't work his way back up, then I could see him getting the Fitch treatment.
* Edited at 10.31.2013, 6:22 PM ET *
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10.31.2013 | 6:30 PM ET
12. Hector Lombard
13. Dong Hyun Kim
14. Martin Kampmann
15. Nick Diaz
16. Josh Burkman
17. Tyron Woodley
18. Mike Pyle
19. Jon Fitch
20. Josh Koscheck
21. Mike Pierce
22. Thiago Alves
23. Jordan Mein
24. Gunnar Nelson
25. Erick Silva