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skelliher
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11.16.2013 | 11:23 AM ET

Predictions: 9 of 12 Winners, 4 Perfect, 580 Points   |   Tied for 408th

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UFC 167
  • Saturday 11.16.2013 at 10:00 PM ET
  • U.S. Broadcast: Pay Per View | Prelims: Fox Sports 1
  • Promotion: Ultimate Fighting Championship
  • Ownership: Zuffa, LLC
  • Venue: MGM Grand Garden Arena
  • Location: Las Vegas, Nevada, United States
  • Enclosure: Octagon
  • TV Announcers: Mike Goldberg, Joe Rogan
  • Ring Announcer: Bruce Buffer
  • Post-Fight Interviews: Joe Rogan
  • Ticket Revenue (live gate): $5,759,000
  • Attendance: 14,856
  • PPV Buys / Buyrate: 630,000 | TV Ratings: 998,000 avg. viewers (FS1 prelims)
  • MMA Bouts: 12
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Bout   Info
Georges St-Pierre   defeats   Johny Hendricks   via Decision, Split   5 Rounds, 25:00 Total Bout Page
Rashad Evans   defeats   Chael Sonnen   via KO/TKO, Punches   4:05 Round 1 of 3 Bout Page
Robbie Lawler   defeats   Rory MacDonald   via Decision, Split   3 Rounds, 15:00 Total Bout Page
Tyron Woodley   defeats   Josh Koscheck   via KO/TKO, Punches   4:38 Round 1 of 3 Bout Page
Ali Bagautinov   defeats   Tim Elliott   via Decision, Unanimous   3 Rounds, 15:00 Total Bout Page
Donald Cerrone   defeats   Evan Dunham   via Submission, Triangle Choke   3:49 Round 2 of 3, 8:49 Total Bout Page
Thales Leites   defeats   Ed Herman   via Decision, Unanimous   3 Rounds, 15:00 Total Bout Page
Rick Story   defeats   Brian Ebersole   via Decision, Unanimous   3 Rounds, 15:00 Total Bout Page
Erik Perez   defeats   Edwin Figueroa   via Decision, Unanimous   3 Rounds, 15:00 Total Bout Page
Jason High   defeats   Anthony Lapsley   via Decision, Unanimous   3 Rounds, 15:00 Total Bout Page
Sergio Pettis   defeats   Will Campuzano   via Decision, Unanimous   3 Rounds, 15:00 Total Bout Page
Gian Villante   defeats   Cody Donovan   via KO/TKO, Punches   1:22 Round 2 of 3, 6:22 Total Bout Page

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zarog
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11.17.2013 | 1:20 AM ET

Predictions: 10 of 12 Winners, 3 Perfect, 615 Points   |   Tied for 243rd


Judging was questionable, but it's a moot point. Also, did anyone else see Hendricks tap in the first round?

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legacyofmisfortune
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11.17.2013 | 1:20 AM ET

Predictions: 7 of 12 Winners, 3 Perfect, 475 Points   |   Tied for 1001st

 I think it was a very close fight and could've gone either way, but I did leaned toward Hendricks a bit, he did more damage and almost finished the fight, on the other hand I did see GSP landing more punches.

I also saw GSP slowing down I was sure that from the rounds 3-5 it was going to be a clear win for GSP and by the end of the 2nd Hendricks was already slowing down, but GSP never explode in fact he slowed down along with Hendricks, wasn't as aggressive or went for the takedown as I expected, he didn't used his jab like he always does, he didn't control the distance as well as he usually do, that's 3 fights now that he doesn't look like his old self, first it was because of the long abscence from the cage then because he was sick, what will it be this time?

I think he has a couple of more fights as a champion at most.

also Lawler is god!

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11.17.2013 | 1:21 AM ET

Predictions: 7 of 12 Winners, 4 Perfect, 475 Points   |   Tied for 1001st

I saw Hendricks consider a tap... I don't think it was a tap though

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IronTusk
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11.17.2013 | 1:21 AM ET

Predictions: 8 of 12 Winners, 2 Perfect, 450 Points   |   Tied for 1095th

Condit's got his work cut out for him with Brown. Who knows what will happen then.

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gunn4206
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11.17.2013 | 1:21 AM ET

Predictions: 8 of 12 Winners, 2 Perfect, 480 Points   |   Tied for 945th

press conference should be starting any minute here it is for those interested in watching it :





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IronTusk
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11.17.2013 | 1:22 AM ET

Predictions: 8 of 12 Winners, 2 Perfect, 450 Points   |   Tied for 1095th

Did GSP even attempt a submission?

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OldNick
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11.17.2013 | 1:23 AM ET

Predictions: 9 of 12 Winners, 4 Perfect, 565 Points   |   Tied for 477th

"As I remember (my memory is **** sometimes but,) GSP didn't really establish his jab in the second til half way through. It's not like he out boxed him for the whole second round."

That would make sense. If you felt Hendricks won the first half and GSP won the later half and with the 2nd round being the most debatable round of the fight... a split decision makes perfect sense.

"Can someone explain how Johny was in danger or what exactly did GSP do to solidify ANY round? There's the perpetually-landing "jab" and even that alone shouldn't decide the way a round goes."

Because it's a 10 point system. I don't agree with it and would like to judge fights based on a whole, not just rounds. With the 10 point system I felt GSP won 48-47 with a split decision being totally acceptable. If I judged the fight as a whole without counting rounds, I would lean towards Hendricks as I felt he did more damage and wasn't in any danger whatsoever. Unfortunately, MMA in USA is based off of the 10 point system. It works for some fights, doesn't work for others. 

* Edited at 11.17.2013, 1:24 AM ET *

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ian729
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11.17.2013 | 1:23 AM ET

Predictions: 9 of 12 Winners, 3 Perfect, 540 Points   |   Tied for 609th

Nobody listened when i said silva was paid to lose in july, or when title decisions were rigged for the champion whenever that jones fight and now everyone realizes ufc (at least at the highest level) is f-i-x-e-d. i love gsp but he lost and my heart sunk to the floor when watching that fight the same time when i watched anderson vs chael 1 except anderson can actually pull out a hail mary. 

screenshot this post if you don't believe me but silva will win the 2nd fight and they'll have the trilogy probably 4th of july with the fan expo unless someone gets injured. 
edu94
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11.17.2013 | 1:24 AM ET

Predictions: 9 of 12 Winners, 5 Perfect, 640 Points   |   Tied for 181st

Too bad GSP in on his way to the hospital (as some rumors are going around) i really want it to see what he has to say about this result.
@ian thats nonsence if Silva got paid to lose it would be by decision or sub. not a knockout

* Edited at 11.17.2013, 1:25 AM ET *

WorstPredictionMan
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11.17.2013 | 1:24 AM ET

I MAY BE IN THE MINORITY, THIS WAS THE GREATEST ROBBERY SINCE EVERY GSP FIGHT. HENDRICKS WON THAT FIGHT 55-35! ANYONE THAT THINKS THAT GSP WAS ANY GOOD SHOULD GOEAT, SHOVE A SOMETHINGI DON'T KNOW. THIS ROBBERY WAS SO BAD, I'M LOSING MY MIND! YOU CAN TELL I'M MAD BY THE ALL-CAPS. HENDRICKS IS GOOD. GSP IS BAD. UPVOTE ME PLZ.

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11.17.2013 | 1:24 AM ET

Predictions: 10 of 12 Winners, 3 Perfect, 615 Points   |   Tied for 243rd

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Oh man. You must must see Dana's intv on the post-fight show on FS 1. Can't remember him this mad in a while. Trust me on this.

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OldNick
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11.17.2013 | 1:26 AM ET

Predictions: 9 of 12 Winners, 4 Perfect, 565 Points   |   Tied for 477th

"Nobody listened when i said silva was paid to lose in july, or when title decisions were rigged for the champion whenever that jones fight and now everyone realizes ufc (at least at the highest level) is f-i-x-e-d."

Why would anyone listen to that? And even if it was true, we most likely wouldn't want to know.

"screenshot this post if you don't believe me but silva will win the 2nd fight and they'll have the trilogy probably 4th of july with the fan expo unless someone gets injured. "

If you know it's rigged than why do you need us to take a screenshot of it? Take a screenshot of it yourself and if it does happen in the future, you can be the badass prophet of MMA internet forums.

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IronTusk
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11.17.2013 | 1:27 AM ET

Predictions: 8 of 12 Winners, 2 Perfect, 450 Points   |   Tied for 1095th

If the 10 points get awarded to the winner, how do you determine the winner? Missed jabs and landing jabs shouldn't get awarded over hard hooks and rights. That's just wrong even on the system.

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11.17.2013 | 1:28 AM ET

Predictions: 7 of 12 Winners, 4 Perfect, 475 Points   |   Tied for 1001st

lol Dana Whtie is seeing this the right way.

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MMATycoon
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11.17.2013 | 1:29 AM ET

Predictions: 10 of 12 Winners, 3 Perfect, 615 Points   |   Tied for 243rd

man Dana is freaking mad in the presser haha

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11.17.2013 | 1:30 AM ET

Predictions: 7 of 12 Winners, 4 Perfect, 475 Points   |   Tied for 1001st

Dana is right on the money tonight. 

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benjaminbrandt
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11.17.2013 | 1:31 AM ET

Predictions: 9 of 12 Winners, 3 Perfect, 540 Points   |   Tied for 609th


20K people watching the post-fight presser.  Holy crap!

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MMATycoon
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11.17.2013 | 1:31 AM ET

Predictions: 10 of 12 Winners, 3 Perfect, 615 Points   |   Tied for 243rd

Dana at the presser is actually better than the fights LOL

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11.17.2013 | 1:31 AM ET

Predictions: 8 of 12 Winners, 3 Perfect, 515 Points   |   Tied for 780th

GSP won 3 and 5 Hendrix 2 and 4 round 1 was razor close.

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11.17.2013 | 1:34 AM ET

Predictions: 9 of 12 Winners, 3 Perfect, 565 Points   |   Tied for 477th

It was a really close fight and could have gone either way. Personally I thought GSP won the fight 48 -  47 because he won the fith round. Sure it is controversial but to call it a robbery is overly dramatic.

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