Topic: All-Time Greatest Strikers

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ladylover213

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07.11.2011 | 5:58 PM ET

dont criticize

theres alot of outstanding strikers and its hard to pick a solid top 10

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Anik

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06.07.2013 | 11:22 AM ET

No it doesn't matter if you do it in a technically sound way. That's why Dan Henderson's got 29 wins, because he knocks people out and he does it well. But if you're gonna go out there and say he's one of the top 3 greatest strikers, it does matter all of a sudden.

Stats are useless in this sport when it comes to judging technique. But if a dude's getting planted on his ass every second fight and you're saying he never gets planted, it''s an outright contradiction. The number of strikes landed doesn't matter when you're judging a fighter's skill but if you punch a dude 300 times in a fight and someone says you don't have good stamina, it's an outright contradiction. If you say Kenneth Allen wins a lot and then you see his record's 1-31, it's an outright contradiction.

* Edited at 06.07.2013, 11:22 AM ET *

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06.07.2013 | 11:30 AM ET

To rank the best guys is hard, it always depends on the way you look at it, Hendo has a case just because he ****** up so many guys just with his right bomb. Then again GSP has a case because he has very technical stand up a brilliant jab and is unpredictable due to the constant threat of the TD, yet he never finishis. Dom Cruz has a case just because of his footwork, speed and accuracy and I don't even have those 3 listed in the top 10.

Really hard and everybody obviously looks at it from a different perspective.

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Anik

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06.07.2013 | 11:51 AM ET

Dominick Cruz is far from accurate, FAAAAAR from accurate.

I wouldn't put him in my list because..well because I just don't understand it. That's why he's my favorite fighter of all-time, he does things where I can't analyze but I can only appreciate.

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dielegende23

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06.07.2013 | 11:56 AM ET

Yeah but on purpose, he strikes so ofen and feints so much that the stats don't tell the story here.

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06.07.2013 | 12:06 PM ET

Whoa! @Anik I'm impressed! Nice choice on Bas

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06.07.2013 | 12:12 PM ET

I thought Bas was a given.

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Anik

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06.07.2013 | 12:21 PM ET

So did I. Not only did he master the use of the body shot before anyone else, but his use of palm strikes was ridiculously effective and it's surprising that no one has ever tried to because they're much harder and there's no risk of breaking your hand.

Bas is on my list purely for his innovative ways more than anything.

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06.07.2013 | 12:26 PM ET

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dielegende23

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06.07.2013 | 12:31 PM ET

You couldn't use your fists in Pancrase at the time, that's why he came up with it, to use that technique now wouldn't make sense. If you use it standing up it might lower the risk of breaking your hand but it really increases the chances of your opponent losing an eye.

Bas was a trail blazor, awesome guy and still very likeable but he would lose to everyone on my list in a striking battle (pound 4 pound of course and in his prime)

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CthulhuJones

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06.07.2013 | 12:59 PM ET

If you listen to him on Joe Rogan's podcast Bas says he never had an issue with poking people in the eyes even when using palm strikes, also he makes the case for them still being effective not only due to the broken hand issue, but for distance issues when throwing combinations.

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amp112

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06.07.2013 | 1:17 PM ET

^I just listened to that podcast recently. It makes sense on paper, because your fingers are either straight up or clinched down, making it hard to poke someone. However, Bas fought in a time where fighters weren't as technical as they are today. They could work in lieu of hammerfists on the ground, but other than that, I don't see them as a viable option.

Then again, I've never been in an organized fight. What do I know?

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06.11.2013 | 9:19 AM ET

If you look at any of them a good bit of their games is based of angles, and getting the opponenet to come into their strikes(like Anderson Silva's use of the thai clinch and manuevering his opponenets into his strikes.)

http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2013/1/29/3927682/ufc-on-fox-6-striking-breakdown-johnson-dodson-rampage
http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2012/7/27/3192110/judo-chop-the-curious-case-of-mirko-cro-cop-filipovic
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1647843-junior-dos-santos-mmas-finest-offensive-boxer

http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2013/2/1/3940474/killing-the-king-jose-aldo-striking-technique
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1585806-ufc-best-of-the-best-anderson-silvas-muay-thai-clinch-work
http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2013/2/21/4012608/ufc-157-dan-henderson-lyoto-machida-jack-slack

Idrownfish

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08.12.2013 | 4:08 AM ET

^For all the people saying the GSP is a godlike striker:

When the only standing technique you rely on is jabbing your opponents into irrelevance, you shouldn't be very high in this ranking, no matter how good your jab is.

* Edited at 08.12.2013, 4:08 AM ET *

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08.12.2013 | 4:14 AM ET

@Idrownfish, he's also a good kicker and his technical boxing is high level compared to MMA, he's also got amazing striking defense and footwork, which is also taken into account when talking about striking. A good striker isn't just a sum of his KO's.

I don't think GSP is all-time top 10, but he's definitely a supreme striker ... and not just because he's got a great jab.

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Idrownfish

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08.12.2013 | 4:19 AM ET

The problem I have with GSP's striking is that nowadays everything in his arsenal of strikes is used defensively, and if he can win a fight simply by jabbing his way to a UD, he won't try anything else.

For an example, he has a really fast and precise superman punch, but instead of trying to do actual damage with it he only uses it when he needs his opponent to get away from him.

EDIT: Although maybe that has more to do with him being GSP.

* Edited at 08.12.2013, 4:35 AM ET *

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