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UFC 245: Usman vs. Covington

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05.13.2019 | 10:19 PM ET

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UFC 245
  • Saturday 12.14.2019 at 10:00 PM ET
  • U.S. Broadcast: Pay Per View | Prelims: ESPN 2
  • Promotion: Ultimate Fighting Championship
  • Ownership: WME-IMG
  • Venue: T-Mobile Arena
  • Location: Las Vegas, Nevada, United States
  • Enclosure: Octagon
  • TV Announcers: Jon Anik, Joe Rogan, Daniel Cormier
  • Ring Announcer: Bruce Buffer
  • Post-Fight Interviews: Joe Rogan
  • Ticket Revenue (live gate): $4,041,119
  • Attendance: 16,811
  • PPV Buys / Buyrate: N/A | TV Ratings: 865,000 avg. viewers (ESPN 2 prelims)
  • MMA Bouts: 13
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Bout   Info
Kamaru Usman   defeats   Colby Covington   via KO/TKO, Punches   4:10 Round 5 of 5, 24:10 Total Bout Page
Alexander Volkanovski   defeats   Max Holloway   via Decision, Unanimous   5 Rounds, 25:00 Total Bout Page
Amanda Nunes   defeats   Germaine de Randamie   via Decision, Unanimous   5 Rounds, 25:00 Total Bout Page
Marlon Moraes   defeats   José Aldo   via Decision, Split   3 Rounds, 15:00 Total Bout Page
Petr Yan   defeats   Urijah Faber   via KO/TKO, Head Kick   0:43 Round 3 of 3, 10:43 Total Bout Page
Geoff Neal   defeats   Mike Perry   via KO/TKO, Head Kick and Punches   1:30 Round 1 of 3 Bout Page
Irene Aldana   defeats   Ketlen Vieira   via KO/TKO, Left Hook   4:51 Round 1 of 3 Bout Page
Omari Akhmedov   defeats   Ian Heinisch   via Decision, Unanimous   3 Rounds, 15:00 Total Bout Page
Matt Brown   defeats   Ben Saunders   via KO/TKO, Ground and Pound   4:55 Round 2 of 3, 9:55 Total Bout Page
Chase Hooper   defeats   Daniel Teymur   via KO/TKO, Ground and Pound   4:34 Round 1 of 3 Bout Page
Brandon Moreno   defeats   Kai Kara-France   via Decision, Unanimous   3 Rounds, 15:00 Total Bout Page
Jessica Eye   defeats   Viviane Araujo   via Decision, Unanimous   3 Rounds, 15:00 Total Bout Page
Punahele Soriano   defeats   Oskar Piechota   via KO/TKO, Left Hook   3:17 Round 1 of 3 Bout Page

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ImperatorFishrat
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12.11.2019 | 8:38 PM ET

Predictions: 6 of 13 Winners, 1 Perfect, 355 Points   |   Tied for 2126th   |   View

@Mikey the real question is, is their wrestling close enough that it will just be equaled out? If that's the case, which it may or may not be, colby probably wins on volume. This just isn't an easy fight to pick. That stated, even if Usman is the better wrestler I don't think he's THAT much better that he can do to Colby what he did to Woodley. And Tyrone has always had questionable cardio...not an issue for covington.

* Edited at 12.11.2019, 8:40 PM ET *

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12.11.2019 | 8:39 PM ET

Prediction Comments

Predictions: 6 of 13 Winners, 0 Perfect, 330 Points   |   Tied for 2275th   |   View

Usman vs. Covington
Kamaru Usman, DEC
And still!

Holloway vs. Volkanovski
Max Holloway, TKO, R4
Holloway has a special gift that makes extraordinary fighters look ordinary, and I think this is no different. I think Holloway lays it on him in the 3rd and takes him out in the 4th.

Nunes vs. de Randamie II
Germaine de Randamie, TKO, R1
Unpopular prediction on this one. I think Nunes comes out like a bat out of hell and GDR counters her. This is a 70/30 fight imo in favor of Nunes, but I'm going with the underdog.

Yan vs. Faber
Petr Yan, SUB, R1
I see a lot of people online favoring Urijah and I'm not buying it. I think Yan drops Faber and finishes him via submission.

Vieira vs. Aldana
Irene Aldana, TKO, R3
Unpopular prediction on this one, too.

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12.11.2019 | 8:50 PM ET

Predictions: 5 of 13 Winners, 1 Perfect, 290 Points   |   Tied for 2452nd   |   View

@everybody I'd like to point out if Bruce was here he'd say division one wrestling vs division two wrestling. Period. And I own all of you.

"Wokka wokka wokka" Fozzie bear

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12.11.2019 | 8:56 PM ET

Predictions: 7 of 11 Winners, 2 Perfect, 440 Points   |   Tied for 1378th   |   View

Let me sum up Vox Media with their latest gaslit headline.  

They are like a combination of fake news and woke losers.

More worthless, Eugene Robinson please!!!


MMA fighter, skateboarder & radio host Jason Ellis opens up about sex with men and being bi




* Edited at 12.11.2019, 8:57 PM ET *

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ImperatorFishrat
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12.11.2019 | 9:01 PM ET

Predictions: 6 of 13 Winners, 1 Perfect, 355 Points   |   Tied for 2126th   |   View

Vox Media is cancer. And Bloody Elbow is a Joke.

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ImperatorFishrat
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12.11.2019 | 9:06 PM ET

Predictions: 6 of 13 Winners, 1 Perfect, 355 Points   |   Tied for 2126th   |   View

Jason '****shark' Ellis is 48 YO and has two professional fights, and two wins. One of those wins is a guy 14-26, the other is 2-9. He's basically as much of a real fighter as I am.

https://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Jason-Ellis-59345

It's possible he only picked up MMA as a pretense to get closer to ****, really. I mean it's not like he's going anywhere, and isn't aware of that fact.

* Edited at 12.11.2019, 9:30 PM ET *

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12.11.2019 | 9:10 PM ET

Predictions: 10 of 13 Winners, 4 Perfect, 680 Points   |   Tied for 23rd with 2 others   |   View

Mikey, All I know is that Usman is going to be emotional as ****, and he hasn't tried to hide it

"Frank Mir had a horseshoe up his ass! *Removes Mouthguard* I told him that... a year ago. I pulled that sum***** out... and I beat him over the head with it! *screams*" - Brock Lesnar

Jsalz21
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12.11.2019 | 9:20 PM ET

Prediction Comments

Predictions: 4 of 8 Winners, 1 Perfect, 225 Points   |   Tied for 2608th   |   View

Usman vs. Covington
Colby Covington, DEC
Lol who cares... Max and Volkanovski should've been the headliner. Covington is insufferable but also undeniable and Usman is still undefeated in the octagon. Both are unlikable, uncharismatic clowns who can't seem to knock anyone out, can't seem to learn BJJ, but can grind out anyone in the division for 5 rounds easy. They seem boring but absolutely dust everyone you put in front of them. So which of them does it to the other first? Usman seems to be physically stronger while Colby seems to have that Ferguson-level stamina. Both are not known as strikers, Usman seeming to have a muay-thai base and Colby, kick-boxing. I really don't think this fight will devolve into a striking match between the two of them, simply because they've got too much of their fight identities wrapped up in swamping their opponents with takedowns and top control. Who wins those exchanges is probably the most compelling part of this fight.

Holloway vs. Volkanovski
Max Holloway
So far the predominant case for Volkanovski seems to be power and his ability to put a pace that beats everyone else (and informally, that he thrives as the underdog.) Being the underdog against Max Holloway means you will lose usually at FW. I'm curious as to what gameplan Volkanovski has but it's very difficult to convince myself of it without watching the actual fight. I did think he'd get beaten by Chad, and Aldo, so will I be 0-3? and new? That's why I'm cautiously picking Max...

Nunes vs. de Randamie II
Amanda Nunes, TKO, R4
GDR has a lot of quasi-earned confidence in this fight. Sure her win over Ladd was an early stoppage (still think she would have won the fight) and she seems to think that Nunes isn't terrifying (she is) she has a lot going for her. If she can get any momentum behind her kickboxing it will be a protracted, methodical fight and rightfully so. However, and it's a huge however, is Amanda going to unleash her bottled lightning of I-Am-The-GOAT-And-You-Are-A-Pretender that has so far crumpled Cyborg, Holly, Ronda, Miesha, Pennington, and Valentina? It could obviously happen. I thought the Holm fight would go at *least 3 rounds.

Aldo vs. Moraes
Marlon Moraes, DEC
Move up to LW Jose. Please, I'm begging you.

Yan vs. Faber
Urijah Faber, SUB, R2
Somebody has to pick the California *MAN* and I will do it, no shame. Yan has so far looked good in all his fights, even though I think he only beat Jimmie Rivera because getting the one knockdown in a round you were otherwise losing still wins you it (a rule that sounds like it came from ONE.) He is almost certainly champ material and I wish this was the Aljo Sterling fight but this is what we got. I will proudly take this L.

Perry vs. Neal
Geoff Neal, DEC
Unless Perry can crush Neal with those clinch elbows that made him famous, i expect Neal to beat him like a drum for three rounds and knock on the door of the top 15 soon. Unless Bionic Hillbilly can crush his head somehow...

Heinisch vs. Akhmedov
Ian Heinisch
I like Ian and his life story. That's about it. He has good wrestling and I hope that he's been working on the head kick from the Brunson fight because it could actually be part of a well-developed striking offense if he takes it seriously. Otherwise, it's a tossup. Akhmedov is Dagestani and that's usually an enormous predictor of grit and ability, if not always winning. Let's see where the shoe drops because this is essentially a fight that decides who stays in the top 15 for now.

Moreno vs. Kara-France
Brandon Moreno, TKO, R2
Strangely enough, I think Moreno's growth speaks more than Kai's hype at this point. Kai has had a series of mostly okay decision wins while Moreno has demonstrated that he is more precise and composed in his striking and his grappling was already better. Probably a decision or sub, but I actually think Moreno will play this out like his Perez fight and hurt Kai on one of his lead-hand uppercuts by the end of the 2nd round, following up with GnP or a club-sub.

Jsalz21
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12.11.2019 | 9:24 PM ET

Predictions: 4 of 8 Winners, 1 Perfect, 225 Points   |   Tied for 2608th   |   View

Are we saying Eugene is worthless or that we want more MMA journalists like him lol...
ImperatorFishrat
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12.11.2019 | 9:29 PM ET

Predictions: 6 of 13 Winners, 1 Perfect, 355 Points   |   Tied for 2126th   |   View

@Jsalz Eugene has absolutely no idea what he's talking about. He is a shambolic late- stage- herpes-addled mess of a man who is terrible at predicting MMA. Which is why no channel he's on gets any views even with the power of Vox Media behind him. Kid Nate is worse though... a disgusting, fat, skin-crawlingly perverted bald cuck who you would expect to find rifling through your daughter's underwear drawer. Absolutely gross. Also terrible at picking MMA.

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Jsalz21
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12.11.2019 | 9:41 PM ET

Predictions: 4 of 8 Winners, 1 Perfect, 225 Points   |   Tied for 2608th   |   View

Hah mildly true, unless he's picking against Weidman which most anyone can do lately. No idea what vox has to do with it, and I haven't heard a Nate pick in months so I'm unbothered on that front. Sorry to hear thats the impression you get of him lol, thats some heavy stuff.
ImperatorFishrat
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12.11.2019 | 9:44 PM ET

Predictions: 6 of 13 Winners, 1 Perfect, 355 Points   |   Tied for 2126th   |   View

I'm no fan of Weidman but Eugene trashing him is pretty ridiculous. Eugene is a fake tough guy. Writes a book about fighting, makes up contrived stories about fighting guys in secret underground circuits because his old man's Herpes-addled  brain has forgotten that's literally Fight Club, he has never had an amateur fight let alone a professional fight (unless you count the golden oldies leagues in BJJ circuits nobody cares about) and doesn't even have a blackbelt.....he's been a purple belt for like 15 years under a guy who is too **** to set up shop in Brazil and has literally never trained a single decent pro fighter. He's a talker not a walker.

Weidman should retire but he's achieved more than Robinson has, or will.

VOX is an extreme leftist ****rag. It's basically WAPO for kids and angsty teens. 

* Edited at 12.11.2019, 11:08 PM ET *

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Jsalz21
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12.11.2019 | 9:56 PM ET

Predictions: 4 of 8 Winners, 1 Perfect, 225 Points   |   Tied for 2608th   |   View

Eh, Weidman isn't on this card so I don't wanna get too into it on the forum but he should've known better than to start at the top of LHW. Even RDA fought Neil Magny when he moved up. I'll hope he gets his feet under him for as long as his career continues but who knows atm.
ImperatorFishrat
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12.11.2019 | 10:04 PM ET

Predictions: 6 of 13 Winners, 1 Perfect, 355 Points   |   Tied for 2126th   |   View

He should probably retire IMO. He's 1-5 from his last six and all of those losses have been by KO/TKO....that's actually worse than where BJ Penn is at if you think about it.

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12.11.2019 | 10:07 PM ET

Predictions: 10 of 13 Winners, 4 Perfect, 680 Points   |   Tied for 23rd with 2 others   |   View

Weidman is a family friend of a family friend to me, so I've gotta be a fan. But man he should retire

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12.12.2019 | 12:46 AM ET

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Predictions: 5 of 13 Winners, 2 Perfect, 325 Points   |   Tied for 2333rd   |   View

Eye vs. Araujo
Jessica Eye, DEC
Eye of the Jessica! Let's Go!

Soriano vs. Piechota
Oskar Piechota, TKO, R2
Don't be fooled by the "Rankings".

"When it's dead, eat it!"

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12.12.2019 | 1:13 AM ET

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Predictions: 5 of 13 Winners, 2 Perfect, 325 Points   |   Tied for 2333rd   |   View

Usman vs. Covington
Colby Covington, SUB, R2
Colby, Colby, Colby!

"When it's dead, eat it!"

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12.12.2019 | 12:49 PM ET

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Predictions: 6 of 13 Winners, 1 Perfect, 370 Points   |   Tied for 2027th   |   View

Nunes vs. de Randamie II
Germaine de Randamie, TKO, R2
Going with GDR. Bigger, seems to have improved since last fight years ago. And I'm low on Brazilians right now.

Budgetta
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12.12.2019 | 1:15 PM ET

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Predictions: 6 of 13 Winners, 1 Perfect, 370 Points   |   Tied for 2027th   |   View

Aldo vs. Moraes
José Aldo, DEC
going with larger guy

Perry vs. Neal
Geoff Neal, TKO, R2
neal all day.

Teymur vs. Hooper
Chase Hooper, DEC
taking bigger younger kid. has adv everywhere

Soo Vintage
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12.12.2019 | 1:54 PM ET

Brown vs Saunders.
Matt Brown, KO

I know that this a big favorite at -345 but I just see no way that Ben Saunders wins this fight. They turn the ceiling fans on in the T-Mobile Arena and all of sudden he gets woozy. Get there early because its Ben Saunders bobblehead night. The only guy he has beaten in his last six fights is Jake Ellenberger. Take Brown with confidence.

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