UFC 229: Khabib vs. McGregor

Me? You've stooped so low you're basking in the sorrow of Conor losing. Not celebrating Khabib, but the fact that Conor lost. 

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lol for ****'s sake Brucey, he lost a fight. It's not like his kid got hit by a car or anything. Relax. I think he's a wanker, and I'm glad he lost. It's not deeper than that. We're fight fans. This is how it is.

He's shown no respect, nor humility, for anyone else in the game, what makes you think he deserves any from me? If conor mcgregor had won by KO and jumped the fence to punch one of khabib's guys you'd be talking about how awesome he was.

And yes I'm celebrating khabib. Like I said, best lightweight of all time. 27-0 baby! The best part of this is that now nobody can say he's a can crusher without calling mcnuggets a can. It's ******* great.

In all seriousness though I think Ferguson is gonna beat him. I've always thought this the way I've always thought khabib would beat conor, and wait for it....conor would beat ferguson. So I expect some swings and roundabouts.

UFC will try and keep the cashcow alive. They aren't gonna match him with Lee and risk him getting ground out again. They will give him poirier. He''ll win, and tony will have beaten khabib. He'll have the belt. Then they will give mcgregor the shot against tony, and conor will win.

I'm ok with that. As long as as you and the other contards understand that conor isn't the next coming of jesus christ, like you all said he was, then that's all I need. I was right. You were wrong. That's life. Now you can go back to being right more than me most of the time and beating me at picks every week, and there will be harmony in the universe. 

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Maybe 1 day somebody will realize that the haters are more responsible than the cronies. By getting so annoyed with his fans you indirectly hyped Conor up even more and started buying into it yourself. The haters are so over hearing Conor was a god that you all started believing it yourself. Which explains why you think this L means so much. YOU made his wins mean something and YOU are making his losses mean something. Not anyone else. 

You're not celebrating Khabib lmfao. Not even a little bit. You were so emotionally-invested with wanting to see Conor lose you damn near lost all common-sense. Like the rest of the worthless casuals. But you're right, I shouldn't have expected anything else. And this nonsense happens time and time again in Prize-Fighting. Of course sheeple celebrate seeing a Wolf fall, that's my bad. 

But you people need to realize nobody hyped up Conor more than the ones screaming for his demise. Simpletons. 

You are a cronie.

You're a bit of a puzzle to me Bruce. Here's why.

You despise casuals. They are anathema to you.Yet you concomitantly adulate the one fighter who has single handedly brought in in more utterly clueless casual fans to the sport than every other fighter combined. The vast majority don't even know how MMA is scored, and only watch events which feature mcgregor. They don't know anything about anything.You're not a casual, and you do know how MMA is scored, and you watch more events than anyone I have ever known. But you are not representative of Conor Mcgregor fans.

They are mostly just tweens, and wannabes, who like conor because they saw him with his **** in the fuel tank of a Ferrari on instagram.

I just don't understand how you are able to resolve this. It doesn't make sense.

And I disagree. I don't hate conor mcgregor. I don't know him. I said I think he's a wanker and I'm glad he got his dose of humble pie. It's a grand lesson in the folly of hubris.I also think JJ is wanker. I think John Jones is as an utter *************. But I can't hate anyone who hasn't done anything to me or anyone I have known. That would be insane.He's actually not bad in some ways. He has donated to charity etc.


If you want to know who to blame for all this, it's the UFC. They created a Golem. They allowed Mcgregor to say a bunch of ****, and get away with doing a bunch of things, that they shouldn't have in order to generate hype that translated into huge ticket sales. They figured out he had the magic formula to sell tickets and PPV's, and they pandered to him, and stacked the deck for him to become champion.

You see, there are phony tough guys and there are real tough guys. Khabib is the latter, Mcgregor is the former. He wrote a cheque with his mouth that his arse couldn't cash.  The UFC allowed him to profoundly insult a man from an a place in the world, and a lifestyle in that world, where doing so will get you a bullet in the head and a very cheap funeral. This is not a civilized place we're talking about. Life is cheap. Conor insulted his religion, family, politics, and nation.And khabib does not suffer fools gladly.

They had to have known that something like what we just witnessed would transpire, and more than doing anything to mitigate that possibility, they encouraged it. There were already precedents of conflict. And when it does, predictably, all boil over, they have the audacity to cry foul and be 'woe is me'! lol. ****off, They knew what was going to happen, and they let it happen. 

You reap what you sow.

Khabib jumping out of that cage was the enfante terrible of the UFC's own entrepreneurial greasyness and negligence. They ****** the dog. Royally.

But by all means, keep downvoting me anyway. 'From hell's heart I strike at thee' might be an apt expression here.

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Again with the pretending like knocking out Chad Mendes,  Jose Aldo and Eddie Alvarez was easy. "UFC stacked the deck" I agree, a stack of the BEST fighters and worst stylistic match-ups possible. and he smoked most of them. FACT

Ireland isn't tough? People don't get bullets in the head & buried in the dirt for words there?. You know who isn't humble? People who brag about being humble. And who cares about making fun of religion lmfao You don't get to hurt people for making fun of your religion. But hey, Khabib is Muslim so no shocker they believe otherwise. More people die in the name of God than anything else and you know that. Religion has nothing to do with this. 

Khabib went full-****** because he just SUB'd 1 of the GOAT's and YES, he did it with fookin' ease. Conor couldn't even land power shots. It was embarrassing. 

What I don't understand is why we bash on people for trying the "impossible"? Why wouldn't I want Conor to knock Floyd out? Mayweather is actual cancer. You strike me as a guy who would've picked Liston when he fought the young, LOUD, brash and arrogant Cassius Clay. 

Blame the UFC...FOR WHAT!?!?! Wanting to make $$$? Are you serious? Its their job to create cash cows and like I keep reverting back to, its YOUR job not to buy into it and damn sure don't let the herds of fans get to you. 1+1

And who cares about making fun of religeon lmfao you don't get to hurt people for making fun of your religeon. But hey Khabib is Muslim so no shocker they believe otherwise'


Well Amen to that. There are many delusions in the world but none quite so bad as the cult of muhammad. Not going to argue with you there. And I agree with you about religeon more broadly as a skeptic and atheist (well, agnostic).

Meh. He has a LW fighting at featherweight. I'm not surprised he beat Aldo and Mendes (didn't have a full camp). Alvarez? Meh. I like eddie but he gets rocked every other fight and was beaten before he entered the cage. They toured Aldo around half the globe on english-speaking talk shows and were quite clearly angling for conor to win. It worked.They put him off his game.

Then, they threw him under the bus by releasing footage of him crying in disappointment in the locker room post fight. That has NEVER happened before. What was that about? One of the most disrespectful things I've ever seen.

Both times he has come up against a guy who's head he couldn't get into, who have been the same size as him, he either lost, struggled badly, or got outright ******* wrecked.

Also facts.

No, Ireland isn't tough like Dagestan is tough Bruce. Jesus christ. Do you know anything about the world whatsoever? Ireland is a first world liberal capitalist democracy. Dagestan is a an ultra-violent war torn  tin-pot ****hole ruled over by mobsters and despots. Mcgregor isn't even from a rough neck of the Irish  woods. Crumlin is a pretty standard working class district of Dublin, which is a nice city. If he was from Belfast you might have a point, but he isn't, and you don't. It's simply not an accurate or useful comparison to make. Conor's parents are working professionals. He grew up in a nice house in a nice city in a nice country, relatively speaking.

Ever seen where Khabib lived? It's a stack of rocks covering a dirt floor set into the side of a treeless mountain.You know why Khabib never took welfare and Conor did? In dagestan it doesn't exist. No social safety net. No free to access healthcare. Let that sink in for a moment.


Well yeah, anyone who brags about being humble isn't humble. Naturally that contention is automatically invalidated at that point.

What I don't understand is why we bash people for trying the impossible


I understand the sentiment, but that's not why I have ever thrown **** at him. I've done that because he's never done anything to deserve the opportunity to do the impossible. If he had defended his belts ( or any belt, ever) a couplke of times, if there were nobody left around for him to beat in his division(S) then I'd have had no problem with him fighting Mayweather.

You see Bruce, beating Eddie alvarez, losing to diaz, beating diaz by split, and beating chad mendez and jose aldo is not grounds for a superfight with old prettyboy. Not even close. You are just lucky floyd wanted you to get your money's worth, because if he had wanted to he could have smoked Mcgregor at any point in that fight. If you think differently, it's probably because you haven't watched enough boxing to know a work when you see one.If you want to know what one does look like, rewatch the fight.

I'll let you in on secret:

When Floyd fought conor, he wasn't the best in the world. Mcgregor is the only fight he would have taken, and will remain his last fight.

If you had put Mcgregor in there with any of the real boys (who actually matched his weight) you would have witnessed one of the worst mismatched murderings you would have ever seen. I shudder to think what Canelo, GGG, ESJ or even crawford would have done to him.

The whole thing was a ******** shenanigan. I give conor zero props for taking that fight. He was never in any danger of getting seriously ****** up, and you saw that by the fact the ref saved him.

You do realize that a rocked or downed fighter is supposed to get a count, right? Why didn't conor get one? Answer: It was an exhibition bout. The outcome was never in jeopardy. If you believe otherwise, you're an utter rube, and that's it.

And yes, I do blame the UFC. They want those hype bucks that are the result of endless and increasingly cancerous ****-talking, but they don't want to deal with the fallout. The world doesn't work that way, and they know it.

They made a choice. Well, more specifically, they took a punt--and it backfired. Then, I've got to listen to Dana, this fat, greasy ****nozzle talking about 'This is not what we do' at the presser. HA! pull the other one champ, it plays jingle bells. This is exactly what they do. It's the cheesiest, low-rent form of hypocrisy imaginable. 

The UFC literally used the bus attack to promo the ******* fight!!!


For ****'s sake mate.
 

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All those Boxers you mentioned would lose to Cody Pfister in MMA so idk where you were going with that. Lemme know when Khabibs ancestors have oddly shaped thumbs from decades of digging for potatoes. Actually, Dagestan has more in common with Ireland than you seem to realize. Both were ****d & pillaged by people wanting to erase their existence. Ireland was run by gangsters in the early 1900s, and these gangsters didnt have phones and fully automatic weapons. They had fear & power. Real fear & power. 

We've been over this cultural thing before. I'm like a mongrel dog, made up of savages, nomads, blacksmiths, Indians and carpenters. Compare that to the pathetic offspring of small time crooks on a giant island full of things trying to kill you and its clear who actually fathoms life between us. 

Aldo was THE Goat, Conor KO'd him in 13 seconds. Everything else is excuses. Aldo was exposed. Mendes could have 10 years to train, not gonna change anything. Eddie is a former UFC champ who shredded your boy RDA like cheese. Conor humiliated him and would've ran through RDA as well. Diaz II wasn't a split ya silly goof, it was a majority. NOBODY had Nate winning that fight because he didn't. It was Conor or draw and anybody who knows anything will agree. 


You might know boxing, I know prize-fighting. You payed attention in computer class, I was putting some punk in his place up in the wrestling room. Idk how ANY male can call himself a man if he doesn't even know what a Gable grip is. Dagestan sounds like heaven to me. Train, eat, sleep destroy, pillage, repeat. Yes please. 

I cant stand "fans" Fish. Isn't that obvious? They do not matter and only make things worse. Thats how I can get away with idolizing Cassius Clay, McGregor, DC, Tyson. Because people don't know squat. I do. 

Boxing literally used footage of Liston shooting a fake pistol at Ali in a crowded Casino. How many convicted ******s box? Media is using the brawl as we speak for attention. Since when were there rules & morals when it comes to hyping a fight!? lol 

lol c'mon Bruce, give me a little credit. I know what a gable is.

You know what's not useful at all? Referring to antiquity to justify a claim made about any phenomena that happens in the present. Mcgregor has never dug a potato patch. He's never fought the english. Whatever hardships the Irish have faced over countless centuries ( which are myriad) he has never had to endure any of them. Therefore, they have no meaning, bearing or relevance to his existence.

Imagine if I said to you that I can't walk because my great grandfather had both legs amputated in the first world war. That's essentially the same as what you just did.If my grandmother had testicles she'd be my grandfather.This is exactly the same redacted nonsense that Muslim apologists use over and over: 'B-b-b-ut the crusades!!!" 

Who gives a **** about the crusades. Hundreds of years ago. Doesn't change the fact that Islam is the worst religion of our age. I don't see christians and buddhists flying planes into buildings. They aren't funding terrorism all over the globe.They aren't killing cartoonists over drawing their stupid, child-marrying murderer of a prophet.

The past is not present. History is under no obligation to repeat itself.

Oh yeah, I forgot diaz mcgregor 2 wasn't a split. And nor should it have been. Mcgregor won that pretty clearly, but it definitely wasn't a merking.

Anyway I'm tired of arguing about this. I've got to go attend to my stupid looking dog (he's stupider than he looks so I'm hoping it balances out somehow). Will also get an opinion on a thing I'm building from you in the near future. I'll upload pictures, it's hard to describe.

The hardest thing Khabib has had to endure was a military-style regiment from his father where he ate food everyday and trained. Must be terrible lmfao 

Well Zuli, I'm agnostic because ultimately I'm saying while I don't accept the existence of any deities which is probably tantamount to being a proper atheist I also don't accept the models of reality we have as being absolute. Everything must be falsifiable in the world of reason. If what is being posited isn't predicated on this, then you're dealing with a faith. I do behave, for example, as if there is Karma in the world. There does seem to be something like this at play. It is hard to argue against.



Believing in a  creator is one thing. Believing that you know what that creator wants you to do all the time....well, that's a whole different deal. Especially when you can't interact with it.Christianity, Islam, Judaism....all the cults of Ibrahim have ridiculous cosmologies and claim to not only know who created the universe, but what said creator wants us to do all the time. They were written by scientifically illiterate troglodytes who lacked scientific models of reality and just invented magical ones as substitutes. They were bronze age goat herders who knew nothing about anything.

The problem with human beings is that we are highly  susceptible to confirmation bias.We event models to test reality, take measurements of it, and decide what is true based on the results that have the most explanatory power.We think we are a sentient, but really we're mostly just adjusting variables through simplistic algorithms.


All ponies like sugar.
Old polly is a pony.
If polly is sad,  try giving her sugar.

This is why people are misdiagonised all the time, for example.

Facts, in isolation. But there no immutable facts.Connectedness is the essence of everything. We simply lack the requisite cordial functioning to see the entire system working, So we make selections.

Are you familiar with kurt vonnegut? In some his books there are aliens called tralfamadorians. They can see all time and space at once.They know how the universe began, and how it ends (they actually blow it up experimenting with new types of fuel). They can't do anything about it though, because knowledge is not cause. They can no more change the future then you or I can change the past, despite the fact that we remember it.


A man never raises his fist at the universe in general. He makes a fist and strikes out at a particular thing. But it is like the old saying; in order to make an apple pie from scratch, you have to first create the universe. Lacking the ability to sufficiently assess the manifestation of an incalculable series of events, we simply round off to a few decimal places, and lay blame, or attribution, at where that number falls.

And then you have to consider that we experience material reality through our own sensory system.This is only one of many, in all of the minds that exist on earth. I cannot see, for example, the spectrum of light that a mantis shrimp can, or a bee.My governing force is gravity due to my mass, whereas the governing force of an ant is electrocohesion. That's why an ant can climb a wall and I can't.


So where then does reality exist? In matter itself, or in the mind perceiving it? 


At the end of all things, I defer to  this: there is more in heaven and earth than is dreamed of in your philosophy, Horatio.

lmfao books are for little girls. The average size man in this hicktown is 6'3. I've yet to see anybody under 200 pounds. I would legit chop them up into pieces and feed them to stray cats. Aussies are *******. Why dont you bring some down here. They'll be 6 feet under with no marker out in the middle of a field. 




I know that Aussies lost a war to a bunch of fookin birds and I can find countless vids of you guys drinking your own

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