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UFC 202: Diaz vs. McGregor 2 Discussion Thread
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08.19.2016 | 3:28 PM ET
Predictions: 9 of 12 Winners, 5 Perfect, 650 Points | Tied for 104th
Should be a fun one.
Prelims kick off on UFC Fight Pass at 630pm ET before switching to FS1 at 8pm. PPV main card airs at 10pm.
Enjoy!
"When a game cannot be won, change the game."
- Saturday 08.20.2016 at 10:00 PM ET
- U.S. Broadcast: Pay Per View | Prelims: Fox Sports 1
- Promotion: Ultimate Fighting Championship
- Ownership: WME-IMG
- Venue: T-Mobile Arena
- Location: Las Vegas, Nevada, United States
- Enclosure: Octagon
- TV Announcers: Mike Goldberg, Joe Rogan
- Ring Announcer: Bruce Buffer
- Post-Fight Interviews: Joe Rogan
- Ticket Revenue (live gate): $7,692,010
- Attendance: 15,539
- PPV Buys / Buyrate: 1,600,000 | TV Ratings: 1.3M avg. viewers (FS1 prelims)
- MMA Bouts: 12
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Event Links:
| Bout | Info | |
|---|---|---|
| Conor McGregor defeats Nate Diaz via Decision, Majority | 5 Rounds, 25:00 Total Bout Page | |
| Anthony Johnson defeats Glover Teixeira via KO/TKO, Punches | 0:13 Round 1 of 3 Bout Page | |
| Donald Cerrone defeats Rick Story via KO/TKO, Head Kick and Punches | 2:02 Round 2 of 3, 7:02 Total Bout Page | |
| Mike Perry defeats Hyun Gyu Lim via KO/TKO, Punches | 3:38 Round 1 of 3 Bout Page | |
| Tim Means defeats Sabah Homasi via KO/TKO, Punches | 2:56 Round 2 of 3, 7:56 Total Bout Page | |
| Cody Garbrandt defeats Takeya Mizugaki via KO/TKO, Punches | 0:48 Round 1 of 3 Bout Page | |
| Raquel Pennington defeats Elizabeth Phillips via Decision, Unanimous | 3 Rounds, 15:00 Total Bout Page | |
| Artem Lobov defeats Chris Avila via Decision, Unanimous | 3 Rounds, 15:00 Total Bout Page | |
| Cortney Casey defeats Randa Markos via Submission, Armbar | 4:34 Round 1 of 3 Bout Page | |
| Lorenz Larkin defeats Neil Magny via KO/TKO, Elbows | 4:08 Round 1 of 3 Bout Page | |
| Colby Covington defeats Max Griffin via KO/TKO, Ground and Pound | 2:18 Round 3 of 3, 12:18 Total Bout Page | |
| Marvin Vettori defeats Alberto Uda via Submission, Guillotine Choke | 4:30 Round 1 of 3 Bout Page |
Responses Page 21
09.07.2016 | 6:24 PM ET
Predictions: 8 of 12 Winners, 4 Perfect, 590 Points | Tied for 300th
"stick and move with a little pop pop bang and you'll be fine"
09.07.2016 | 8:18 PM ET
Predictions: 7 of 12 Winners, 4 Perfect, 555 Points | Tied for 500th
Saying a KD where the fighter choses not to follow-up is the equivalent of a significant strike is really just ridiculous.
The main problem with MMA judging is the same problem that is with MMA reffing, human error. Just as refs **** up by missing fowls or stopping fights early or late, judges mess up because their job is subjective. They have guidlines that are open to interpretation. The commissions are looking to clear up some problems with the new unified rules that go into effect in Jan. But there will always be problems with judging because it is based on a completely subjective criteria.
If you added a rule where the ref signals the judges when he is about to stop it you would be on here complaining about how dare the ref not signal a near stoppage Conor was clearly on the verge of going out! Then be mad the ref signaled for each knockdown which should automatic.
"It does not make sense that humans deliberately malfunction. - Upgrade"
09.07.2016 | 9:34 PM ET
Predictions: 8 of 12 Winners, 4 Perfect, 590 Points | Tied for 300th
* Edited at 09.07.2016, 9:35 PM ET *
"stick and move with a little pop pop bang and you'll be fine"
09.07.2016 | 11:21 PM ET
Predictions: 7 of 12 Winners, 4 Perfect, 555 Points | Tied for 500th
The only suggestion I've really seen you guve is take a scenario where 2 of 3 people have to mess up for it to be detrimental is to make only have one person mess up to make it detrimental.
"It does not make sense that humans deliberately malfunction. - Upgrade"
09.07.2016 | 11:40 PM ET
Predictions: 8 of 12 Winners, 4 Perfect, 580 Points | Tied for 353rd
You really need to start keeping up man, I was saying that the multiple KD's are a show of damage which out weights aggression and TD. Seriously man keep up.
"here I come to save the day"
09.08.2016 | 2:46 AM ET
Predictions: 11 of 12 Winners, 4 Perfect, 725 Points | 13th Place
Watch rounds 1,2,4,5. Seriously, how can the "aggression" thing even be a debate as a judging decider when Nate literally wasn't the one who was the aggressor for the majority of the fight.
Conor started backing down, mid round 2 and was on his heels for most of round 3 (and he was throwing during that time too, just not the one controlling the octagon and the main one pushing the action). But in ALL of the other rounds Conor was the one holding the center of the octagon, he was the one throwing first, he was the one deciding where the fight went yet somehow people here are acting like it's accepted across the board that Nate was the aggressor and it was just not judged correctly.
Aggression, cage control are secondary judging criteria, something you give weight if there isn't a lot of action to go on and even if you do get to giving them weight because it was a close fight, in no way or form was that criteria a landslide win for Nate (most likely the opposite), so just drop it.
* Edited at 09.08.2016, 2:47 AM ET *
"Hay lohh you Mike, ay lov you Mike. Hyou say somesing like di fo me, and naw I say you ... I LOV YOU! See you som. Boy." -- Yoel Romero, UFC 205
09.08.2016 | 8:37 AM ET
Predictions: 8 of 12 Winners, 4 Perfect, 590 Points | Tied for 300th
i know you dont think it was a close fight as others and conor won but when you look at how many more strikes nate attempted and landed how can you say conor controlled the fight??? I think conor fought a very good technical fight (24% leg kicks) with time and accuracy working great for him. if nate was not the aggressor how did he attempt 7 TD in the fight and all were against the cage. **** he attempted more than 100 punches. the secondary is a factor in close fights and i believe the fight was closer then others i dont think either guy won. i had some say full fight scoring is the best and if you do that then the fight was even closer.
@franklin
keep up with what??? you dont answer any of my questions. this debate started with the 2 rd a fight with 2 KD's where conor was scared to attempt a finish. then nate cornering him landing more punches and conor being saved by the bell. the 3 rd he stalled
conor did knock him down 3 time 1 and 2 but nate was close to finishing the fight 2 times in the 2 and 5 and the 3 rd was the most dominated round to one side
"stick and move with a little pop pop bang and you'll be fine"
09.08.2016 | 8:42 AM ET
Predictions: 8 of 12 Winners, 4 Perfect, 590 Points | Tied for 300th
"stick and move with a little pop pop bang and you'll be fine"
09.08.2016 | 10:53 AM ET
Predictions: 7 of 12 Winners, 4 Perfect, 555 Points | Tied for 500th
"It does not make sense that humans deliberately malfunction. - Upgrade"
09.08.2016 | 12:18 PM ET
Predictions: 8 of 12 Winners, 4 Perfect, 590 Points | Tied for 300th
"stick and move with a little pop pop bang and you'll be fine"
09.08.2016 | 1:34 PM ET
Predictions: 9 of 12 Winners, 2 Perfect, 540 Points | Tied for 545th
"Grammar. The difference between knowing your **** and knowing you're ****."
09.08.2016 | 1:43 PM ET
Predictions: 7 of 12 Winners, 4 Perfect, 540 Points | Tied for 590th
Couldn't agree more. I used to be the biggest fan of GSP. When I first started watching UFC he was right at the top of my list. But after that Serra KO he played it safe and now he isn't even im my top 50 haha. Can't blame the guy for going that route but definitely the main reason he is not one of my favorite fighters anymore.
"“All of a sudden, he was shooting for a takedown, and I’m like, ‘Oh, you’re a wrestler now? Remember, I’m the black belt in jiu-jitsu. And you’re shooting on me now? This is a wrap." - Nate Diaz"
09.08.2016 | 2:39 PM ET
Predictions: 11 of 12 Winners, 4 Perfect, 725 Points | 13th Place
The more guys have to lose, the more "perfect" their legacy is, the harder it gets to ask them to put themselves out there.
"Hay lohh you Mike, ay lov you Mike. Hyou say somesing like di fo me, and naw I say you ... I LOV YOU! See you som. Boy." -- Yoel Romero, UFC 205
09.08.2016 | 3:22 PM ET
Predictions: 8 of 12 Winners, 4 Perfect, 590 Points | Tied for 300th
@yossgold i agree aldo turned into the same style using his strength to ensure the win. most people say to beat the champ you need to finish the champ. thats why i hate the scoring in MMA its not boxing its not wrestling or JJ its MMA we need a different system
"stick and move with a little pop pop bang and you'll be fine"