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UFC 186: Johnson vs. Horiguchi Discussion Thread
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04.24.2015 | 6:09 PM ET
Predictions: 10 of 12 Winners, 6 Perfect, 690 Points | Tied for 349th
It's one of the most underwhelming cards of the year so far, especially with a PPV price tag attached to it, but we'll truck through!
Prelims kick off on UFC Fight Pass at 630pm ET before switching over to FS1 at 8pm. We hit the main card on PPV at 10pm.
Enjoy!
"When a game cannot be won, change the game."
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04.26.2015 | 12:58 AM ET
Predictions: 11 of 12 Winners, 5 Perfect, 720 Points | Tied for 231st
"I shall not cause harm to any vehicle nor the personal contents thereof, nor through inaction let that vehicle or the personal contents thereof come to harm. It's what I call the Repo Code, kid. "
04.26.2015 | 1:00 AM ET
Predictions: 9 of 12 Winners, 6 Perfect, 640 Points | Tied for 569th
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04.26.2015 | 1:02 AM ET
Predictions: 10 of 12 Winners, 6 Perfect, 680 Points | Tied for 382nd
"If I have a goal, then it is to escape from this literalism. I'll never achieve it; in the same way that I'll never manage to describe what really dwells within my character, although I keep on trying."
04.26.2015 | 1:03 AM ET
Predictions: 11 of 12 Winners, 7 Perfect, 765 Points | Tied for 82nd
"You look like a 1987 John Hughes high school bully." - Swickotine
04.26.2015 | 1:05 AM ET
Predictions: 10 of 12 Winners, 6 Perfect, 680 Points | Tied for 382nd
"If I have a goal, then it is to escape from this literalism. I'll never achieve it; in the same way that I'll never manage to describe what really dwells within my character, although I keep on trying."
04.26.2015 | 1:06 AM ET
Predictions: 11 of 12 Winners, 7 Perfect, 765 Points | Tied for 82nd
"You look like a 1987 John Hughes high school bully." - Swickotine
04.26.2015 | 1:06 AM ET
Predictions: 8 of 12 Winners, 3 Perfect, 515 Points | Tied for 1002nd
"Why are you booing me? I am the GOAT. **** you." - Patricio "Pitbull" Freire
04.26.2015 | 1:13 AM ET
Predictions: 9 of 12 Winners, 6 Perfect, 640 Points | Tied for 569th
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04.26.2015 | 1:25 AM ET
Predictions: 11 of 12 Winners, 5 Perfect, 705 Points | Tied for 275th
For those that want are demanding DJ go up in weight, why? He's not even a large 125. The fighters at 135 are bigger and more skilled than they were 3 and a half years ago when DJ last fought there. A great little man beats a good big man, but if you have 2 great fighters (extremely similar in skill level) and one is at a serious size disadvantage, assume the larger man wins. For proof that the division is changing, just look at the top 10 then vs. now. The smaller guys either moved down or couldn't compete.
There are still fights for DJ at 125 (some more competitive than others). Formiga, Reis, Dodson, and Cejudo are all 1, 2, or 3 wins away from a title shot. Kyoji's young and there are a few other young talented fighters that given a couple years should challenge DJ, such as: Kyoji (24, two years from now he'll be better, and Mighty Mouse will be approaching the end of his prime), Borg (21, he's looked good in his fights, still a ways to go, but give it 2 years and I think he pans out as a solid fighter), Smolka (23, really inexperienced, but give it a couple years before writing him off).
"Surrender??!! You think this letter on my head stands for France?" - Captain America
04.26.2015 | 1:31 AM ET
Predictions: 10 of 11 Winners, 6 Perfect, 650 Points | Tied for 515th
"All you chumps are gonna bow when I whoop him, all of you, I know you got him, I know you've got him picked, but the man's in trouble, I'ma show you how great I am."
04.26.2015 | 1:43 AM ET
Predictions: 9 of 12 Winners, 6 Perfect, 640 Points | Tied for 569th
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04.26.2015 | 1:57 AM ET
Predictions: 11 of 12 Winners, 5 Perfect, 705 Points | Tied for 275th
Yes, it is fair. He makes the weight, that makes it fair.
Disadvantages aren't mitigated by skill when you're going to start comparing Cruz, Dillashaw, and Barao to DJ, because they aren't significantly less skilled. And all that BS about how DJ was great 135 is just plain stupid. It's not a reasonable comparison because he was fighting guys like Nick Pace (6-3, hasn't fought in 3+ years), Damacio Page (19-9, now a flyweight), Kid Yamamoto (18-6 w/ 2 NCs, he is 1-5 w/ 1 NC over his last 7 in the last 7+ years) and Miguel Torres (43-8, but has looked shot over the last 6 years, and by the way, in many people's eyes, including mine, DJ actually lost this fight). So comparing how he did at 135 3+ years ago has literally no bearing on the types of matchups he would actually have. The guys he was beating are relatively small, unathletic, unskilled in comparison to today's 135 division, or a combination of the three. Also, it's not a height disadvantage. There would be a significant weight disadvantage, thus defeating the whole ******* purpose of having weight classes. If DJ wants to move up, I'm cool with that, but I don't understand how people can be upset that he hasn't moved back to 135 simply because he's better than everyone.
"Surrender??!! You think this letter on my head stands for France?" - Captain America
04.26.2015 | 1:58 AM ET
Predictions: 10 of 12 Winners, 6 Perfect, 680 Points | Tied for 382nd
Seriously, what to-do with Mighty Mouse? Showcase DJ vs Dodson II on FOX while grooming Cejudo for his title shot vs DJ as a co main event for a big PPV.
"If I have a goal, then it is to escape from this literalism. I'll never achieve it; in the same way that I'll never manage to describe what really dwells within my character, although I keep on trying."
04.26.2015 | 1:59 AM ET
Don't worry, Demetrious run is coming to an end.
Someone shoop Demetrious in.
04.26.2015 | 2:13 AM ET
Predictions: 9 of 12 Winners, 6 Perfect, 640 Points | Tied for 569th
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04.26.2015 | 2:16 AM ET
Predictions: 11 of 12 Winners, 5 Perfect, 720 Points | Tied for 231st
04.26.2015 | 2:23 AM ET
Predictions: 10 of 12 Winners, 5 Perfect, 640 Points | Tied for 545th
"When Conor fought Cowboy, he looked like a lion. When he fights stronger opponents, he looks like a scared chicken." - Khabib
04.26.2015 | 2:27 AM ET
Predictions: 10 of 12 Winners, 7 Perfect, 730 Points | Tied for 213th
04.26.2015 | 10:32 AM ET
Predictions: 10 of 12 Winners, 3 Perfect, 605 Points | Tied for 693rd
"The only thing predictable about MMA is that it is unpredictable."
04.26.2015 | 10:52 AM ET
Predictions: 10 of 12 Winners, 4 Perfect, 645 Points | Tied for 530th