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UFC 157 gets new headliner.
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12.07.2012 | 3:10 AM ET
Predictions: 7 of 12 Winners, 5 Perfect, 500 Points | Tied for 488th
No way Rousey/Carmouche headlines over Hendo (legend of the sport and multi-organization and weight class champ)/Machida (ex-UFC champ and owner of his own "era" -- short as it may be :) ).
From some point in time, Dana has been "Ronda this, Rousey that, she's awesome, she's amazing", they're pictured together almost EVERYWHERE.
One question Dana, what are you going to do once she loses??? (and she will, eventually)
He's putting all of his eggs in a not fully tested basket.
My prediction: Two years from now, the UFC's dissolving the woman's division.
He's not building it right, and I suspect that's happening because the only reason he's doing it is to give Rousey a home and try to cash in on her as much as he can before she wilts, and see what happens after that.
You'll see, women from all weight classes are going to start cutting enormous amounts of weight or fighting much bigger girls only to fight in the UFC.
Kinda disappointing regarding his mostly highly professional approach to MMA up to now.
* Edited at 12.07.2012, 3:12 AM ET *
"Hay lohh you Mike, ay lov you Mike. Hyou say somesing like di fo me, and naw I say you ... I LOV YOU! See you som. Boy." -- Yoel Romero, UFC 205
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12.07.2012 | 3:16 AM ET
Predictions: 7 of 12 Winners, 4 Perfect, 500 Points | Tied for 488th
"get outta my face man! i gotta go get drunk"-Rampage
12.07.2012 | 4:02 AM ET
Predictions: 7 of 12 Winners, 5 Perfect, 500 Points | Tied for 488th
But if she's headlining a PPV against Carmouche (which by no means is a 500,000 buyrate fight) and you've got Hendo/Machida on as co-main event it either means that Dana's trying to cram Rousey down our throats (which supports what I said about him not REALLY wanting WMMA in the UFC, but just making a place for Ronda) or something is rotten in the state of Denmark (e.g. he's boning her ;) ).
Nah, I'm semi-joking about the boning her stuff, I just think Dana thinks Rousey's a bigger cash-cow that she actually will turn out to be. If she beats Cyborg, that's about the last big money fight she's got in her (unless it's controversial as ****) due to how badly she beat Tate. And if/once she loses to anybody she loses a large chunk of her marketability, since the whole unbeatable arm-collector thing is 40% of it (the rest is her pretty face and rowdy persona, which'll both also take a few knocks once she loses).
Anyway, regardless of anything Ronda related, I think it's down right disrespectful to a legend of the sport who hasn't started the decline in his career yet and is fighting a fellow contender to be co-main event of this card.
I think that Rousey/Carmouche as co-main even would've been exposure enough for Dana's shiny new toy.
The worse thing is, lots of people are going to buy this PPV for Hendo/Machida and Dana's going to say "look, Ronda can bring in the numbers even when she's fighting a relative unknown" ...
Oh well, I guess he's the boss and can run his ship how he sees fit ...
* Edited at 12.07.2012, 4:09 AM ET *
"Hay lohh you Mike, ay lov you Mike. Hyou say somesing like di fo me, and naw I say you ... I LOV YOU! See you som. Boy." -- Yoel Romero, UFC 205
12.07.2012 | 4:45 AM ET
Predictions: 4 of 12 Winners, 4 Perfect, 300 Points | Tied for 1263rd
"1. Avoidant personality disorder _______________2. Maladaptive daydreaming"
12.07.2012 | 6:11 AM ET
Predictions: 7 of 12 Winners, 5 Perfect, 500 Points | Tied for 488th
If she was facing Tate or Cyborg, sure ... but she's facing Liz Carmouche. no way is that fight headlining over Hendo/Machida. Even if it's for a belt.
"Hay lohh you Mike, ay lov you Mike. Hyou say somesing like di fo me, and naw I say you ... I LOV YOU! See you som. Boy." -- Yoel Romero, UFC 205
12.07.2012 | 6:29 AM ET
Predictions: 9 of 12 Winners, 5 Perfect, 625 Points | Tied for 55th
"I'm coming in your backyard and I'm gonna **** you up" -Carlos Condit
12.07.2012 | 8:03 AM ET
Predictions: 7 of 12 Winners, 5 Perfect, 525 Points | Tied for 357th
"Why are you booing me? I am the GOAT. **** you." - Patricio "Pitbull" Freire
12.07.2012 | 9:29 AM ET
Predictions: 8 of 12 Winners, 4 Perfect, 525 Points | Tied for 357th
"I'm too old to be run by the fears of dumb people "
12.07.2012 | 9:32 AM ET
Predictions: 8 of 12 Winners, 3 Perfect, 500 Points | Tied for 488th
bow down to the Queen of MMA. i would say 95% of casual fans have no clue who barao is. i know he will win though.
12.07.2012 | 9:32 AM ET
Predictions: 6 of 12 Winners, 2 Perfect, 375 Points | Tied for 1068th
"“All of a sudden, he was shooting for a takedown, and I’m like, ‘Oh, you’re a wrestler now? Remember, I’m the black belt in jiu-jitsu. And you’re shooting on me now? This is a wrap." - Nate Diaz"
12.07.2012 | 10:19 AM ET
Predictions: 8 of 12 Winners, 4 Perfect, 525 Points | Tied for 357th
"I'm too old to be run by the fears of dumb people "
12.07.2012 | 10:42 AM ET
Predictions: 8 of 12 Winners, 3 Perfect, 525 Points | Tied for 357th
"3HUNNA"
12.07.2012 | 11:15 AM ET
Predictions: 9 of 12 Winners, 5 Perfect, 625 Points | Tied for 55th
* Edited at 12.07.2012, 11:17 AM ET *
"I'm coming in your backyard and I'm gonna **** you up" -Carlos Condit
12.07.2012 | 11:29 AM ET
Predictions: 5 of 9 Winners, 3 Perfect, 375 Points | Tied for 1068th
I don't see her as a PPV headliner but a headliner of FOX cards, but where it comes to PPV she could be a good co-main event to another Title bout. But seriously Dana is putting to much on Ronda's shoulders and is putting a lot of pressure of the division to her.
And the fact that there is only on division really limits the amount of women that can come over to the UFC let alone if they are UFC material.
Unfortunately this division will not last in the public's interest as long as there such a limit on good fighters in WMMA. So don't be surprised if the UFC buys out the woman's MMA organization Invicta with in the next year or year and a half in order to get more talent.
"Don't argue with an idiot, they will bring you down to their level and beat you with experience." - Bark Twain
12.07.2012 | 11:38 AM ET
Predictions: 5 of 9 Winners, 3 Perfect, 375 Points | Tied for 1068th
Simple as that.
He is not a popular name at the moment to casual fans of the sport so don't be surprised if Barao does not headline any PPVs in the future. FOX and FX, and as of right now Fuel are going to be his place. He can Co-main a PPV but only if Cruz comes back if then it is uncertain.
"Don't argue with an idiot, they will bring you down to their level and beat you with experience." - Bark Twain
12.07.2012 | 11:41 AM ET
Predictions: 9 of 12 Winners, 5 Perfect, 625 Points | Tied for 55th
"I'm coming in your backyard and I'm gonna **** you up" -Carlos Condit
12.07.2012 | 11:58 AM ET
Predictions: 6 of 12 Winners, 3 Perfect, 425 Points | Tied for 875th
12.07.2012 | 2:03 PM ET
Predictions: 4 of 12 Winners, 4 Perfect, 300 Points | Tied for 1263rd
title fights always are the last bouts to be had
if they changed it now because of the women...................... they'd have a real big problem
"1. Avoidant personality disorder _______________2. Maladaptive daydreaming"
12.07.2012 | 2:05 PM ET
Predictions: 6 of 12 Winners, 3 Perfect, 425 Points | Tied for 875th
12.07.2012 | 2:23 PM ET
Predictions: 7 of 12 Winners, 4 Perfect, 500 Points | Tied for 488th
I might just go to this one.....
12.07.2012 | 2:31 PM ET
Predictions: 7 of 12 Winners, 5 Perfect, 500 Points | Tied for 488th
I also, agree that Ronda brings in bigger PPV numbers than both McDonald and Barao. And the reason Barao could headline UFC 149 (as some of you mentioned) was Faber's name value, not his. He may be greater, but he still doesn't have the ability to bring in numbers.
But I still think they could've found a PPV card without such a high profile co-main to put Ronda in, or she could co-main a PPV with a men's championship as headline.
Once again, all this giving the fact that her opponent is virtually unknown and most likely headed for a 1st round armbar. If this were Cyborg or even Tate, I'd say sure, Hendo/Machida can co-main that card. But no way Ronda/Carmouche is a PPV headliner. Ronda/Carmouche could headline a FX/Fuel TV or co-main a PPV (with the headliner being a championship bout so that they don't have to change the "last bout for belt rule" :) ).
* Edited at 12.07.2012, 2:34 PM ET *
"Hay lohh you Mike, ay lov you Mike. Hyou say somesing like di fo me, and naw I say you ... I LOV YOU! See you som. Boy." -- Yoel Romero, UFC 205