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UFC Fight Night 135: Gaethje vs. Vick

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07.18.2018 | 3:39 PM ET

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UFC Fight Night 135
  • Saturday 08.25.2018 at 10:00 PM ET
  • U.S. Broadcast: Fox Sports 1 | Prelims: Fox Sports 2
  • Name: UFC Fight Night 135: Gaethje vs. Vick
  • Also Known As: UFC Fight Night Lincoln
  • Promotion: Ultimate Fighting Championship
  • Ownership: WME-IMG
  • Venue: Pinnacle Bank Arena
  • Location: Lincoln, Nebraska, United States
  • Enclosure: Octagon
  • TV Announcers: Brendan Fitzgerald, Paul Felder
  • Ring Announcer: Joe Martinez
  • Post-Fight Interviews: Paul Felder
  • Ticket Revenue (live gate): $478,337
  • Attendance: 6,409
  • TV Ratings: 596,000 avg. viewers
  • MMA Bouts: 13
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Bout   Info
Justin Gaethje   defeats   James Vick   via KO/TKO, Punch   1:27 Round 1 of 5 Bout Page
Michael Johnson   defeats   Andre Fili   via Decision, Split   3 Rounds, 15:00 Total Bout Page
Cortney Casey   defeats   Angela Hill   via Decision, Split   3 Rounds, 15:00 Total Bout Page
Bryan Barberena   defeats   Jake Ellenberger   via KO/TKO, Punches   2:26 Round 1 of 3 Bout Page
Deiveson Figueiredo   defeats   John Moraga   via KO/TKO, Body Punch   3:08 Round 2 of 3, 8:08 Total Bout Page
Eryk Anders   defeats   Tim Williams   via KO/TKO, Head Kick   4:42 Round 3 of 3, 14:42 Total Bout Page
James Krause   defeats   Warlley Alves   via KO/TKO, Knee and Punches   2:28 Round 2 of 3, 7:28 Total Bout Page
Cory Sandhagen   defeats   Iuri Alcântara   via KO/TKO, Ground and Pound   1:01 Round 2 of 3, 6:01 Total Bout Page
Andrew Sanchez   defeats   Markus Perez   via Decision, Unanimous   3 Rounds, 15:00 Total Bout Page
Mickey Gall   defeats   George Sullivan   via Submission, Rear Naked Choke   1:09 Round 1 of 3 Bout Page
Joanne Wood   defeats   Kalindra Faria   via Submission, Triangle-armbar   4:57 Round 1 of 3 Bout Page
Drew Dober   defeats   Jon Tuck   via Decision, Unanimous   3 Rounds, 15:00 Total Bout Page
Rani Yahya   defeats   Luke Sanders   via Submission, Heel Hook   1:31 Round 1 of 3 Bout Page

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GreenHornet
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08.25.2018 | 9:35 PM ET

Predictions: 7 of 13 Winners, 2 Perfect, 470 Points   |   Tied for 1193rd


@massa

Boxing has thicker padding for gloves.  Also, Boxing was notorious for fixed fights during the time LaMotta fought since the Italian Mafia had a stranglehold on the promotion of that sport, and LaMotta was managed by the mob.  So...I have to question how much damage LaMotta really took and how many times did he make his opponent look good by taking a dive in a fight.

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MassaBruce
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08.25.2018 | 9:38 PM ET

Predictions: 10 of 13 Winners, 2 Perfect, 625 Points   |   Tied for 349th

Where you have to question I do not because I watched his fights. Dude is the definition of take 2 to land 1. No matter vs who. 


Boxers also wear shoes. How neat. Lets move on
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08.25.2018 | 9:43 PM ET

Predictions: 8 of 13 Winners, 2 Perfect, 505 Points   |   Tied for 991st

10-9 krause.
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08.25.2018 | 9:44 PM ET

Predictions: 7 of 13 Winners, 3 Perfect, 530 Points   |   Tied for 885th

Has Alves always been this slow and lethargic? 

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08.25.2018 | 9:45 PM ET

Predictions: 7 of 13 Winners, 1 Perfect, 430 Points   |   Tied for 1336th

I cant remember lamatta ever even being knocked down guy was a ****en warrior
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08.25.2018 | 9:47 PM ET

Predictions: 7 of 13 Winners, 2 Perfect, 470 Points   |   Tied for 1193rd


@massa

Difference is that the thicker padding in boxing gloves actually helps, to some extent, protect the fighters unlike the thin padding on 4oz MMA gloves.

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08.25.2018 | 9:47 PM ET

Predictions: 8 of 13 Winners, 2 Perfect, 505 Points   |   Tied for 991st

welp. someone made some good money haha
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MassaBruce
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08.25.2018 | 9:47 PM ET

Predictions: 10 of 13 Winners, 2 Perfect, 625 Points   |   Tied for 349th

my goodness! that knee

* Edited at 08.25.2018, 9:48 PM ET *

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08.25.2018 | 9:48 PM ET

Predictions: 7 of 13 Winners, 2 Perfect, 455 Points   |   Tied for 1260th

What is alves doing. He had so many opportunities to get dominant ground positions and let them go
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08.25.2018 | 9:50 PM ET

Predictions: 7 of 13 Winners, 2 Perfect, 455 Points   |   Tied for 1260th

Guy looked hungover in there
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08.25.2018 | 9:51 PM ET

Predictions: 8 of 13 Winners, 2 Perfect, 505 Points   |   Tied for 991st

@ Green Lamotta was cast from the same mold as rocky 'the last man' marciano. Not the classiest boxer, but heart, chin, and conditioning for days. Also back then everything was fought in 8 OZ gloves ( or less) which were basically like catching mitts. Tough dudes.
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08.25.2018 | 9:51 PM ET

Predictions: 7 of 13 Winners, 1 Perfect, 430 Points   |   Tied for 1336th

@greenhornet i think any cushion effect is negated by the extra weight on the gloves.
But who nose
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08.25.2018 | 9:54 PM ET

Predictions: 7 of 13 Winners, 1 Perfect, 430 Points   |   Tied for 1336th

Wow im taking a ****en beating tonight. Its starting to become a habit
MassaBruce
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08.25.2018 | 9:56 PM ET

Predictions: 10 of 13 Winners, 2 Perfect, 625 Points   |   Tied for 349th

Oh you wanna get mathematician about it? Ok. Lets be smart. 

If George Foreman wore toy Hulk Gloves he could still knockout a bronze statue of Stalin naw mean? 

If the size of gloves had a difference on KO ratio then Glory Kickboxing wouldn't be around. Doesn't matter what a professional striker wears..they're still lethal. Specialist are specialist. An expert welder doesn't need to see what he's doing type thing. 

Prize-Fighting is Prize-Fighting. Also, its notorious how LaMotta & Suga Ray avoided the Mafia with ease due to respect & fear. 10 men with baseball bats still doesn't make Jake submit. And they respected Ray Robinson enough to stay way. Just like the Triads and Bruce Lee. 

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08.25.2018 | 9:57 PM ET

Predictions: 8 of 13 Winners, 2 Perfect, 505 Points   |   Tied for 991st

hahahaha I love it!
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08.25.2018 | 9:58 PM ET

Predictions: 7 of 13 Winners, 3 Perfect, 530 Points   |   Tied for 885th

@Spudgreg

He gassed really early on which is unforgivable unless some major **** happened that we don't know about. Overall he looked like trash.

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08.25.2018 | 10:01 PM ET

Predictions: 8 of 13 Winners, 2 Perfect, 505 Points   |   Tied for 991st

Boxing gloves are different than MMA gloves because of the dispersal of impact force. That's why there's less knockouts in boxing than MMA. It's the physics of it. Because Boxing gloves are bigger, the transference of force happens more slowly. That's also why the risk of KO is much higher in 8's, as opposed to 10's.

This does nothing to stop brain trauma however. In fact it is worse, because a shot that would KO someone in MMA gloves often will be the one that allows a boxer to beat the count, and effectively get KO'ed again. They aren't designed to do anything other than stop hand breaks, and minimize cuts--because cuts stop fights in boxing unlike MMA.


I have pairs of 8's, 10's and 16's, and believe me, you can REALLY feel the bag in 8's. Not suitable for sparring or hitting a bag at all.

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MassaBruce
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08.25.2018 | 10:03 PM ET

Predictions: 10 of 13 Winners, 2 Perfect, 625 Points   |   Tied for 349th

Didn't we just go over how Foreman had what 68 KO's? Oh but there weren't as many back then? Hmm...anybody ever actually counted? 
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08.25.2018 | 10:03 PM ET

Predictions: 7 of 13 Winners, 1 Perfect, 430 Points   |   Tied for 1336th

@bruce i agree fully except i wasn't saying heavier gloves equals more ko's
I was saying heavier gloves negates the advantage of the kushin effect of heavier gloves
MassaBruce
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08.25.2018 | 10:05 PM ET

Predictions: 10 of 13 Winners, 2 Perfect, 625 Points   |   Tied for 349th

There's a reason why we use heavy-bags and mitts instead of actual human-beings. Completely different material & durability all together. The point is, human-beings have concrete weaknesses. Achilles and the supposed Goliath as examples. Anatomy is absolute. Anatomy is weakness. 
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