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UFC Fight Night: Blaydes vs. Daukaus
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11.13.2021 | 3:11 PM ET
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03.22.2022 | 9:06 AM ET
Predictions: 7 of 12 Winners, 4 Perfect, 450 Points | Tied for 1076th
03.22.2022 | 9:06 AM ET
Predictions: 7 of 12 Winners, 4 Perfect, 500 Points | Tied for 596th
03.22.2022 | 9:08 AM ET
Predictions: 7 of 12 Winners, 4 Perfect, 450 Points | Tied for 1076th
03.22.2022 | 9:19 AM ET
@Michael is right ^
Predictions: 7 of 12 Winners, 3 Perfect, 440 Points | Tied for 1171st
* Edited at 03.22.2022, 9:19 AM ET *
"I’m here to snatch necks and cash checks" - Darrick Minner
03.22.2022 | 9:25 AM ET
Predictions: 7 of 12 Winners, 2 Perfect, 415 Points | Tied for 1506th
03.22.2022 | 9:31 AM ET
Predictions: 7 of 12 Winners, 4 Perfect, 500 Points | Tied for 596th
**** the boring apex
03.22.2022 | 10:37 AM ET
@RustyTennakoon
Predictions: 10 of 12 Winners, 5 Perfect, 655 Points | Tied for 26th with 4 others
Do you keep a book of your bets? If it's just by feeling that's very treacherous. Do you actually know how profitable you are?
I can tell you I've a record of every MMA bet I've ever made and I know I'm profitable with constantly betting fighters I think will lose. Now granted I'm pretty new at this, only 20 months in so maybe it will prove to not work over time and I have to change my strategy.
But to give you an example I had around 38% winning bets in 2021 with bets placed every week and made an ROI of around 11%.
This year I'm 33% and around 6,5% ROI.
Also you said what's the point of betting someone you think will lose at +900. Well because we're human and make errors and miscalculations all the time? Also this is an extremely volatile sport. It doesn't matter if you're off, it matters if you're off more or less than your expected outcome.
I can tell you with certainty that if Kai Kara France was offered at +900 every week and I bet on him expecting him to lose every time I would put that bookie out of bussiness given enough time and smoke any parlay in ROI.
That reasoning of never betting on a fighter you think is less likely to win just doesn't make sense to me.
I recently bet Tim Elliott vs Ulanbekov. DId I think he would win? No, but I gave him around 40% and the odds I got implied he would win 32.3% of the time.
* Edited at 03.22.2022, 10:41 AM ET *
"She’ll go there and smash her. She’ll get a title shot, become a UFC champion. We have a Ronda Rousey on steroids. This is what we have.” - Ali Abdelaziz on Kayla Harrison
03.22.2022 | 11:09 AM ET
Predictions: 2 of 5 Winners, 0 Perfect, 115 Points | Tied for 3814th
03.22.2022 | 11:12 AM ET
Predictions: 6 of 12 Winners, 3 Perfect, 415 Points | Tied for 1563rd
"“Unfortunately you can’t talk like that on FOX” - Joe Rogan"
03.22.2022 | 11:15 AM ET
Predictions: 6 of 11 Winners, 2 Perfect, 380 Points | Tied for 2066th
But I just wanted to clarify my comment without getting too galaxy brained, I'm saying from an intention standpoint it's better to bet on fighters you think will win (yes even in a parlay) than chasing value on fighters you think will lose. Treating betting odds like a Respect-O-Meter, and your money will show respect to whoever you think is being overlooked.
Sure, maybe you've hit on a flier dog before and now have anecdotal evidence clogging your neural pathways, but I assure you, in the long term aggregate, it's a losing strategy. Eventually Valentina Shevchenko will lose, just as Amanda Nunes did, and someone will have put $100 on her opponent and will really draw some conclusions from it. But people have been doing it for all these other fights because it's "good value" and that money just gets vacuumed straight to Costa Rica.
* Edited at 03.22.2022, 11:27 AM ET *
03.22.2022 | 11:17 AM ET
Predictions: 2 of 5 Winners, 0 Perfect, 115 Points | Tied for 3814th
I marked 5 fights.
I want to bet on the 2 that they will go on first.
And as long as they change the order I can't. -.-'
03.22.2022 | 11:19 AM ET
Predictions: 7 of 12 Winners, 4 Perfect, 500 Points | Tied for 596th
03.22.2022 | 11:21 AM ET
@Tieoken
Predictions: 7 of 12 Winners, 3 Perfect, 465 Points | Tied for 906th
03.22.2022 | 11:23 AM ET
Predictions: 6 of 11 Winners, 2 Perfect, 380 Points | Tied for 2066th
* Edited at 03.22.2022, 11:23 AM ET *
03.22.2022 | 11:23 AM ET
@welshguy
Predictions: 2 of 5 Winners, 0 Perfect, 115 Points | Tied for 3814th
I don't mind for the order or for the others.
But on this card I can't find 2 locks with a good betting odds.
So I have to put on another strategy
03.22.2022 | 11:29 AM ET
@Gliesi58i
Predictions: 7 of 12 Winners, 3 Perfect, 465 Points | Tied for 906th
But in general I don't agree with the whole "bet on value" principle. I still think using your example a bet on Elliot, despite thinking he will not be the winner is a bad bet, whatever the odds. The reason being simply that you do not expect him to win.
The way I see it, the bookies put various values on lines, and the whole argument for example, that someone has a likely 40% chance of winning but the bookies have him as a 30% chance and therefore that is a good bet does not hold water with me. What I think people are forgetting as someone mentioned before this is a sport with a binary out come, only 2 possibilities, win or lose. And 40% of a losing bet is the same as 30% of a losing bet which is zero.
I think if you want value you parlay 2 fighters you think or are confident will win to get the same odds you would betting a fighter you do not think will win (but has good odds). That's what makes sense to me.
Of course for this to work you have to have confidence in your picks and you would need to put the work in, personally this is what has worked for me.
That said everyone is different and bets differently, so if your theory and method works for you then that's great, I just bet a different way on a different principle. And it has worked for me so far.
03.22.2022 | 11:32 AM ET
@Gliesi58i
Predictions: 7 of 12 Winners, 3 Perfect, 465 Points | Tied for 906th
03.22.2022 | 11:36 AM ET
@VilasMilan
Predictions: 7 of 12 Winners, 3 Perfect, 465 Points | Tied for 906th
1. Alexa Grasso
2. Manon Fiorot
3. Khizriev
4. Askar Askarov
And if you are willing to take a little risk then Karol Rosa, Curtis Blaydes and Matt Brown
Just my suggestions ;)
03.22.2022 | 11:37 AM ET
Predictions: 6 of 12 Winners, 2 Perfect, 380 Points | Tied for 2066th
"Chalkhunting 101"
03.22.2022 | 11:37 AM ET
Predictions: 6 of 11 Winners, 2 Perfect, 380 Points | Tied for 2066th