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UFC 195: Lawler vs. Condit Discussion Thread

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skelliher

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01.01.2016 | 9:27 PM ET

Predictions: 5 of 12 Winners, 1 Perfect, 290 Points | Tied for 1249th

This one's flying somewhat under the radar relative to the mainstream crossover appeal of the last two UFC PPVs, but it's a hardcore fan's dream.

Lawler-Condit, Arlovski-Miocic, Larkin-Tumenov ... Oh lawd.

The prelims kick off on UFC Fight Pass at 630pm ET before switching over to FS1 at 8pm. As always, the main card kicks off at 10pm.

Enjoy!

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Saturday 01.02.2016 at 10:00 PM ET
U.S. Broadcast: Pay Per View | Prelims: Fox Sports 1
Promotion: Ultimate Fighting Championship
Ownership: Zuffa, LLC
Venue: MGM Grand Garden Arena
Location: Las Vegas, Nevada, United States
Enclosure: Octagon
TV Announcers: Mike Goldberg, Joe Rogan
Ring Announcer: Bruce Buffer
Post-Fight Interviews: Joe Rogan
Ticket Revenue (live gate): $2,003,986
Attendance: 10,300
PPV Buys / Buyrate: 230,000 | TV Ratings: 1.03M avg. viewers (FS1 prelims, 1.24M peak)
MMA Bouts: 12
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Bout		Info
Robbie Lawler defeats Carlos Condit via Decision, Split		5 Rounds, 25:00 Total Bout Page
Stipe Miocic defeats Andrei Arlovski via KO/TKO, Punches		0:54 Round 1 of 3 Bout Page
Albert Tumenov defeats Lorenz Larkin via Decision, Split		3 Rounds, 15:00 Total Bout Page
Brian Ortega defeats Diego Brandão via Submission, Triangle Choke		1:37 Round 3 of 3, 11:37 Total Bout Page
Abel Trujillo defeats Tony Sims via Submission, Guillotine Choke		3:18 Round 1 of 3 Bout Page
Michael McDonald defeats Masanori Kanehara via Submission, Rear Naked Choke		2:09 Round 2 of 3, 7:09 Total Bout Page
Alex Morono defeats Kyle Noke via Decision, Split		3 Rounds, 15:00 Total Bout Page
Justine Kish defeats Nina Nunes via Decision, Unanimous		3 Rounds, 15:00 Total Bout Page
Drew Dober defeats Scott Holtzman via Decision, Unanimous		3 Rounds, 15:00 Total Bout Page
Dustin Poirier defeats Joe Duffy via Decision, Unanimous		3 Rounds, 15:00 Total Bout Page
Michinori Tanaka defeats Joe Soto via Decision, Split		3 Rounds, 15:00 Total Bout Page
Sheldon Westcott defeats Edgar Garcia via KO/TKO, Ground and Pound		3:12 Round 1 of 3 Bout Page

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: DelRose

01.03.2016 | 12:35 AM ET

It was the last round that won the heart of that judge.

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boredoms

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01.03.2016 | 12:36 AM ET

Predictions: 8 of 12 Winners, 1 Perfect, 455 Points | Tied for 456th

Rematch at UFC 200.

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unbeknownst

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01.03.2016 | 12:37 AM ET

Predictions: 8 of 12 Winners, 2 Perfect, 480 Points | Tied for 327th

I'd be happy if we just watched some sort of combination of Lawler fighting either Condit, Hendricks, or MacDonald for the belt, for eternity.

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Bestscp68

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01.03.2016 | 12:37 AM ET

Predictions: 7 of 12 Winners, 3 Perfect, 440 Points | Tied for 535th

Great Card.

Great fights and the round 5 on Lawler-Condit was just Majestic!

Bring More!!!

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Idrownfish

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01.03.2016 | 12:41 AM ET

Predictions: 5 of 12 Winners, 2 Perfect, 300 Points | Tied for 1231st

If you've watched MMA for more than one year and still don't know that if someone destroys his foe in the last round that person automatically wins, you are really bad at identifying patterns. When the fifth round was over I was sure Lawler had won it.

* Edited at 01.03.2016, 12:42 AM ET *

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GreenHornet

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01.03.2016 | 12:42 AM ET

Predictions: 7 of 12 Winners, 4 Perfect, 450 Points | Tied for 495th

For those interested in hearing Lawler and Condit talk about the amazing beginning to new potential trilogy of fights, here is the UFC 195 Post Fight Press Conference:

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vazio

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01.03.2016 | 12:44 AM ET

Predictions: 6 of 12 Winners, 1 Perfect, 355 Points | Tied for 1004th

To say Condit won the 5th makes no sense to me. By the end of it Condit was a zombie, not sure how he managed to keep standing till the end. He might have won the 3rd, but it was close.

I picked Condit, but I had it 48-47 Lawler. Hell of a fight. Very happy for Lawler. And Condit's chin is amazing, he took some clean shots from a very heavy puncher.

mike187

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01.03.2016 | 12:45 AM ET

Predictions: 7 of 12 Winners, 2 Perfect, 415 Points | Tied for 657th

I think people get caught up in who won the fight as a whole instead of Rd by Rd which is how mma is scored. I thought Condit had the better fight but Lawler did enough to win 3 rds.

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loudenSwain

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01.03.2016 | 12:56 AM ET

Predictions: 8 of 12 Winners, 4 Perfect, 550 Points | Tied for 111th

I had Condit winning 1/3/4. The third was the one that be in question. I think Condit won it on volume.

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Idrownfish

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01.03.2016 | 12:57 AM ET

Predictions: 5 of 12 Winners, 2 Perfect, 300 Points | Tied for 1231st

@mike187 It is pretty much the opposite. In theory fights are judged round by round. In reality pretty much all judges look at it as a whole fight. MMA is not like boxing: judges submit the results of ALL ROUNDS after the last one. And that impacts the final score.

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dtrain24

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01.03.2016 | 12:59 AM ET

Predictions: 10 of 12 Winners, 3 Perfect, 630 Points | Tied for 13th with 2 others

IMO: FOTN- Lawler/Condit (duh), POTN: Dustin Poirier

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GreenHornet

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01.03.2016 | 1:02 AM ET

Predictions: 7 of 12 Winners, 4 Perfect, 450 Points | Tied for 495th

FOTN: Lawler-Condit

POTN: Dustin Poirier

POTN: Michael McDonald

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Dodgey

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01.03.2016 | 1:02 AM ET

Predictions: 8 of 12 Winners, 2 Perfect, 450 Points | Tied for 484th

My fav card of the year so far.

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PilloryChoke

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01.03.2016 | 1:03 AM ET

Predictions: 9 of 12 Winners, 2 Perfect, 530 Points | Tied for 143rd

I felt like Condit should have won it and I picked Lawler. Lawler took round 2 by dropping Condit and took round 5 for obvious reasons, but the other rounds were Condit. Didn't Rogan say Lawler's corner told him he needed to win rounds 4 and 5 after round 3? If so, even they think he lost the fight, although they probably wouldn't admit it.

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loudenSwain

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01.03.2016 | 1:04 AM ET

Predictions: 8 of 12 Winners, 4 Perfect, 550 Points | Tied for 111th

MEDIA SCORES
Rob Young
CombatPress.com 48-47 Lawler
Nick Baldwin
BloodyElbow.com 48-47 Lawler
Nathan McCarter
BleacherReport.com 48-48 DRAW
Dallas Winston
BloodyElbow.com 48-48 DRAW
Tristen Critchfield
Sherdog.com 47-48 Condit
Brian Knapp
Sherdog.com 47-48 Condit
Craig Amos
BleacherReport.com 47-48 Condit
MMAMania.com 47-48 Condit
MMABrasil.com.br 47-48 Condit
MMAJunkie.com 47-48 Condit
Paul Fontaine
WrestlingObserver.com 47-48 Condit
Jim Edwards
MMALatestNews.com 47-48 Condit
SevereMMA.com 47-48 Condit
Jason Floyd
TheMMAReport.com 47-48 Condit
Adrian MacNair
MMAMania.com 47-48 Condit
John Pollock
Fight Network 47-48 Condit
Rob Tatum
CombatPress.com 47-48 Condit
Luke Thomas
MMAFighting.com 47-48 Condit
Chris Nelson
Sherdog.com 46-49 Condit

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Idrownfish

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01.03.2016 | 1:08 AM ET

Predictions: 5 of 12 Winners, 2 Perfect, 300 Points | Tied for 1231st

@loudenSwain Media judges round by round.

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mike187

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01.03.2016 | 1:08 AM ET

Predictions: 7 of 12 Winners, 2 Perfect, 415 Points | Tied for 657th

@Fish they don't wait until the end of the fight to fill out the whole score card and then go back and do it by memory, also they don't go back and erase and change previous rd scores based on what happens later in the fight, you would be able to see that clearly on the score card. And even if they did I'm talking about how a fight is supposed to be judged which is Rd by Rd .

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01.03.2016 | 1:10 AM ET

Predictions: 9 of 12 Winners, 4 Perfect, 565 Points | Tied for 68th

Condit 1, 3,and 4, and I love Robbie and picked him on here

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skelliher

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01.03.2016 | 1:11 AM ET

Predictions: 5 of 12 Winners, 1 Perfect, 290 Points | Tied for 1249th

I loved, loved, loved that fight, but I feel so sad for Condit.

I had it for him, 48-47, but it came down to R3, which could have gone either way.

I'm usually against immediate rematches, but lawd to I want to run that one back.

Thing is, it sounds like Condit has one eye on the door.

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ian729

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01.03.2016 | 1:13 AM ET

Predictions: 8 of 12 Winners, 3 Perfect, 490 Points | Tied for 285th

As much as i like to see my fellow half asian brother Robbie Lawler fight and win i can't figure out which round he won aside from 2 (knockdown) and 5 (onslaught). 4 was very clearly Condit and I'd say Condit took 1 and edged out 3

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