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THE ULTIMATE FIGHTER 14 FINALE DISCUSSION

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Gregory
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12.03.2011 | 1:30 PM ET

Predictions: 5 of 10 Winners, 0 Perfect, 250 Points   |   Tied for 437th

The conclusion of the Ultimate Fighter season 14 is coming to you live tonight from fabulous Las Vegas, Nevada where both the bantamweight and featherweight tournament champions will be crowned.

Things are scheduled to kick off first at 5:15pm eastern time (estimate... final time still unknown) for prelims on Facebook.com/UFC.  Then at 8:00 eastern time you can get the main card on Spike TV, including the showdown between Bisping and Mayhem Miller.

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Enjoy the fights and good luck in your predictions! 

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The Ultimate Fighter 14 Finale
  • Saturday 12.03.2011 at 08:00 PM ET
  • U.S. Broadcast: Spike TV | Prelims: Facebook.com
  • Name: The Ultimate Fighter 14 Finale
  • Also Known As: Team Bisping vs Team Miller Finale
  • Promotion: Ultimate Fighting Championship
  • Ownership: Zuffa, LLC
  • Venue: The Pearl at the Palms Casino Resort
  • Location: Las Vegas, Nevada, United States
  • Enclosure: Octagon
  • TV Announcers: Mike Goldberg, Joe Rogan
  • Ring Announcer: Bruce Buffer
  • Post-Fight Interviews: Joe Rogan
  • Ticket Revenue (live gate): $452,700
  • Attendance: 1,909 (Paid: 1,348)
  • TV Ratings: 2.5M average viewers (3.4M peak)
  • MMA Bouts: 10
  • Promotion Links:
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Bout   Info
Michael Bisping   defeats   Jason Miller   via KO/TKO, Strikes   3:34 Round 3 of 5, 13:34 Total Bout Page
Diego Brandão   defeats   Dennis Bermudez   via Submission, Armbar   4:51 Round 1 of 3 Bout Page
John Dodson   defeats   T.J. Dillashaw   via KO/TKO, Punches   1:54 Round 1 of 3 Bout Page
Tony Ferguson   defeats   Yves Edwards   via Decision, Unanimous   3 Rounds, 15:00 Total Bout Page
Johnny Bedford   defeats   Louis Gaudinot   via KO/TKO, Strikes   1:58 Round 3 of 3, 11:58 Total Bout Page
Marcus Brimage   defeats   Stephen Bass   via Decision, Unanimous   3 Rounds, 15:00 Total Bout Page
John Albert   defeats   Dustin Pague   via KO/TKO, Punches   1:09 Round 1 of 3 Bout Page
Roland Delorme   defeats   Josh Ferguson   via Submission, Rear Naked Choke   0:22 Round 3 of 3, 10:22 Total Bout Page
Steven Siler   defeats   Josh Clopton   via Decision, Unanimous   3 Rounds, 15:00 Total Bout Page
Bryan Caraway   defeats   Dustin Neace   via Submission, Rear Naked Choke   3:38 Round 2 of 3, 8:38 Total Bout Page

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minotauro11
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12.04.2011 | 1:30 AM ET

Predictions: 5 of 10 Winners, 0 Perfect, 250 Points   |   Tied for 437th

"Rivera, Akiyama, Dan Miller, and Mayhem are all good, legit wins.  They're just not elite wins."



Just about any UFC win is a good win, whenever I criticize UFC wins, I'm comparing them with other UFC wins. If someone outside the UFC beats Dan Miller, that's impressive, but beating Dan Miller (in a close fight) does convince me you are elite. Bisping belongs in the UFC, but I don't think he belongs in the top 5. He is top 10 for sure, but if the UFC matched him up like they do to Maia or Palhares, I think he'd be fringe top 15. 

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Gregory
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12.04.2011 | 1:31 AM ET

Predictions: 5 of 10 Winners, 0 Perfect, 250 Points   |   Tied for 437th

Bisping should fight the winner of Chael vs Monoz

well, someone needs to fight anderson.  but the stange possibility that maybe the UFC is working towards is throwing Bisping against Anderson next. 

but it doesn't all add up or make sense. 

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buffalo ben
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12.04.2011 | 1:31 AM ET

Predictions: 5 of 10 Winners, 0 Perfect, 250 Points   |   Tied for 437th

if i understood him correctly, I belive Gregory was making the case that the ufc matched bisping with grapplers because he was likely to beat him, and that he lost to wanderlei and henderson because they were superior strikers

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hdmexiqtioner
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12.04.2011 | 1:34 AM ET

Predictions: 5 of 10 Winners, 1 Perfect, 275 Points   |   Tied for 385th

who knows how long Anderson will be out cause of injury (hopefully not long) but I still believe that Bisping needs one more victory in order to prove himself. cause he needs to fight a good striker.

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sugadamn
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12.04.2011 | 1:35 AM ET

Predictions: 4 of 6 Winners, 0 Perfect, 200 Points   |   Tied for 535th

I think Edwards won just sayin...... and Herb Dean is simply the best
OldManGloom
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12.04.2011 | 1:36 AM ET

Predictions: 5 of 10 Winners, 1 Perfect, 275 Points   |   Tied for 385th

I would love to see *****ping vs Stann.  No need to even hype that fight.

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OldManGloom
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12.04.2011 | 1:37 AM ET

Predictions: 5 of 10 Winners, 1 Perfect, 275 Points   |   Tied for 385th

Side note, watching Vitor destroy Tank is almost funny.  Almost as funny as Rogan calling him "Victor."

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SoccerKick
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12.04.2011 | 1:38 AM ET

Predictions: 4 of 10 Winners, 0 Perfect, 200 Points   |   Tied for 535th

I'd like to see Bisping vs Stann, but its not likely at all right now...BIsping is probably the more technical striker, but we saw tonight how much power he has while Stann might be the  most powerful striker in the MW division

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OldManGloom
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12.04.2011 | 1:39 AM ET

Predictions: 5 of 10 Winners, 1 Perfect, 275 Points   |   Tied for 385th

I know it's not likely based on their last fights, but I really think that Stann would put it on him.

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hdmexiqtioner
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12.04.2011 | 1:39 AM ET

Predictions: 5 of 10 Winners, 1 Perfect, 275 Points   |   Tied for 385th

but what is next for Miller?

honestly for him imo to get back in the picture is to go and gain about 4 wins then fight a big name, than maybe

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Gregory
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12.04.2011 | 1:40 AM ET

Predictions: 5 of 10 Winners, 0 Perfect, 250 Points   |   Tied for 437th

i guess sort of... though i don't think it's entirely about grappler vs striker vs wrestler.

hendo was the only fight where he was totally outclassed.  

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SoccerKick
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12.04.2011 | 1:44 AM ET

Predictions: 4 of 10 Winners, 0 Perfect, 200 Points   |   Tied for 535th

Whats next for Miller is tough...he's probably getting paid a nice amount of money so he'll have to fight tough guys with a solid name maybe a fight with Alan Belcher next

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buffalo ben
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12.04.2011 | 1:45 AM ET

Predictions: 5 of 10 Winners, 0 Perfect, 250 Points   |   Tied for 437th


well i guess bisping is #6 MW as you have him ranked. He can handle most of the division, but he will lose to a serious contender. Are we in agreement Gregory?

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minotauro11
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12.04.2011 | 1:47 AM ET

Predictions: 5 of 10 Winners, 0 Perfect, 250 Points   |   Tied for 437th

I wanted Miller/Maia, assuming Miller would've beat Bisping. Now it seems like a giant step down for maia, but it'd still be a fun fight IMO.

I want Bisping/Silva. 

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SoccerKick
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12.04.2011 | 1:48 AM ET

Predictions: 4 of 10 Winners, 0 Perfect, 200 Points   |   Tied for 535th

@Mino I'm with you on Bisping/Silva!

* Edited at 12.04.2011, 1:51 AM ET *

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Gregory
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12.04.2011 | 1:50 AM ET

Predictions: 5 of 10 Winners, 0 Perfect, 250 Points   |   Tied for 437th

i haven't updated my MW rankings in a while... i'll do that now

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OldManGloom
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12.04.2011 | 1:50 AM ET

Predictions: 5 of 10 Winners, 1 Perfect, 275 Points   |   Tied for 385th

I know it's faulty logic to say Hendo crushed Bisping [if I don't call him "*****ping" maybe I won't get the down arrows ;)] and Hendo got schooled by Silva, therefore Bisping loses to Silva, but seriously, there is no way in hell that Bisping would stand a chance against The Spider!  We're talking GSP/Hardy on a whole 'nother level.  That fight would either end in the first round because Anderson KTFO Bisping or it would go to a decision because Silva decided to toy with him.  He's the Clay Guida of the MW division, a high level gatekeeper (not that there is anything wrong with that).  If you beat him, you are a legit title contender.  If you lose, well, time to go work on your game.

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12.04.2011 | 1:51 AM ET

Predictions: 4 of 10 Winners, 0 Perfect, 200 Points   |   Tied for 535th

Even tho i picked Ferguson,i think Yves won that fight.Bisping vs Vitor/Rumble is the match up i'd like to see next for Bisping........and maybe something along the lines of Mayhem vs Ed Herman!

The two Tuf winners were absolute beasts but i think Bermudez and Dillashaw have shown that they have more than enough potential to have very successful careers in the UFC

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12.04.2011 | 1:51 AM ET

Predictions: 5 of 10 Winners, 0 Perfect, 250 Points   |   Tied for 437th

Against the top 20 Bisping would (of the top 20 according to Tapology)
beat Lawler
lose to Kennedy
lose to Belcher
beat Rockhold
finished by Santiago 
finished by Palhares
finish Mayhem
beat Leben
finished by Wand
beat Lombard (tough one)
lose to Marquardt
finished by munoz
finished by stann
lose to himself (via decision)
lose to Jacare
finished by top 5 outside of Okami and Sonnen

in my humble opinion

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buffalo ben
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12.04.2011 | 1:52 AM ET

Predictions: 5 of 10 Winners, 0 Perfect, 250 Points   |   Tied for 437th

i can see that @oldmangloom

'i think bisping would beat kennedy. miller did

* Edited at 12.04.2011, 1:53 AM ET *

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