Topic: The Ultimate Fighter 14 Finale
THE ULTIMATE FIGHTER 14 FINALE DISCUSSION
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12.03.2011 | 1:30 PM ET
Predictions: 5 of 10 Winners, 0 Perfect, 250 Points | Tied for 437th
Things are scheduled to kick off first at 5:15pm eastern time (estimate... final time still unknown) for prelims on Facebook.com/UFC. Then at 8:00 eastern time you can get the main card on Spike TV, including the showdown between Bisping and Mayhem Miller.
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- Saturday 12.03.2011 at 08:00 PM ET
- U.S. Broadcast: Spike TV | Prelims: Facebook.com
- Name: The Ultimate Fighter 14 Finale
- Also Known As: Team Bisping vs Team Miller Finale
- Promotion: Ultimate Fighting Championship
- Ownership: Zuffa, LLC
- Venue: The Pearl at the Palms Casino Resort
- Location: Las Vegas, Nevada, United States
- Enclosure: Octagon
- TV Announcers: Mike Goldberg, Joe Rogan
- Ring Announcer: Bruce Buffer
- Post-Fight Interviews: Joe Rogan
- Ticket Revenue (live gate): $452,700
- Attendance: 1,909 (Paid: 1,348)
- TV Ratings: 2.5M average viewers (3.4M peak)
- MMA Bouts: 10
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Event Links:
| Bout | Info | |
|---|---|---|
| Michael Bisping defeats Jason Miller via KO/TKO, Strikes | 3:34 Round 3 of 5, 13:34 Total Bout Page | |
| Diego Brandão defeats Dennis Bermudez via Submission, Armbar | 4:51 Round 1 of 3 Bout Page | |
| John Dodson defeats T.J. Dillashaw via KO/TKO, Punches | 1:54 Round 1 of 3 Bout Page | |
| Tony Ferguson defeats Yves Edwards via Decision, Unanimous | 3 Rounds, 15:00 Total Bout Page | |
| Johnny Bedford defeats Louis Gaudinot via KO/TKO, Strikes | 1:58 Round 3 of 3, 11:58 Total Bout Page | |
| Marcus Brimage defeats Stephen Bass via Decision, Unanimous | 3 Rounds, 15:00 Total Bout Page | |
| John Albert defeats Dustin Pague via KO/TKO, Punches | 1:09 Round 1 of 3 Bout Page | |
| Roland Delorme defeats Josh Ferguson via Submission, Rear Naked Choke | 0:22 Round 3 of 3, 10:22 Total Bout Page | |
| Steven Siler defeats Josh Clopton via Decision, Unanimous | 3 Rounds, 15:00 Total Bout Page | |
| Bryan Caraway defeats Dustin Neace via Submission, Rear Naked Choke | 3:38 Round 2 of 3, 8:38 Total Bout Page |
Responses Page 33
12.04.2011 | 12:49 AM ET
Predictions: 5 of 10 Winners, 0 Perfect, 250 Points | Tied for 437th
really? who did you want him to fight? or are you just going to say anyone he beats wasn't good enough?
if they were protecting him then how come he ended up facing Dan Henderson?
* Edited at 12.04.2011, 12:50 AM ET *
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12.04.2011 | 1:01 AM ET
Predictions: 5 of 10 Winners, 0 Perfect, 250 Points | Tied for 437th
Zuffa brass saw that Bisping would never get close to another title shot again if they matched him in really tough fights... Okami, Marquardt, Sonnen, Maia etc. So they've built him slowly in winnable fights. He's been the favorite in his last 4.
Now he's back to where he was before UFC 100 against Hendo. The UFC has no choice now but to give him a stiff test... and if he wins, he'll get his shot.
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12.04.2011 | 1:03 AM ET
Predictions: 5 of 10 Winners, 0 Perfect, 250 Points | Tied for 437th
Him vs sonnen and winner gets silva, sounds perfect to me.
12.04.2011 | 1:06 AM ET
Predictions: 5 of 10 Winners, 0 Perfect, 250 Points | Tied for 437th
He fought those "easy" fights because he lost to Wanderlei. Had he won against Wanderlei he would have had stiffer competeition sooner. He's fightin Sonnen next.
i don't want to misunderstand you greg, and i have a lot of respect for you but it sounds like you might be saying that if bisping fights contenders those are give-mes, and if he fights a contender like sonnen he doesn't deserve the opportunity.
* Edited at 12.04.2011, 1:10 AM ET *
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12.04.2011 | 1:08 AM ET
Predictions: 5 of 10 Winners, 0 Perfect, 250 Points | Tied for 437th
I think the UFC would prefer to give Bisping a grappler. Palhares if he beats Massenzio at 142, or Demian Maia. Both would be difficult for Bisping, but at least he'd have the expected edge in striking and a good shot to win.
They could also give him the Belfort vs Rumble winner.
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12.04.2011 | 1:09 AM ET
Predictions: 5 of 10 Winners, 0 Perfect, 250 Points | Tied for 437th
Rogan sure was talking like he knew bisping was gonna get a title shot but noway beating miller, rivera,akiyama and mahem gets a title shot.
12.04.2011 | 1:11 AM ET
Predictions: 5 of 10 Winners, 0 Perfect, 250 Points | Tied for 437th
rogan also said jim miller was likely to get a title shot at least twice
* Edited at 12.04.2011, 1:11 AM ET *
"You don't have to be perfect, just dont be fraudulant"
12.04.2011 | 1:16 AM ET
Predictions: 5 of 10 Winners, 0 Perfect, 250 Points | Tied for 437th
I didn't call them easy. I called them winnable where he was the favorite. There are no easy fights. It's still the UFC.
Had he won to Wanderlei he would have had stiffer competeition sooner.
But he lost, again falling short when he wasn't the favorite against one of the better guys at middleweight. The Wanderlei fight tells you everything you need to know about where Bisping stands in the division.
He's fightin Sonnen next.
Sonnen is fighting Munoz.
i don't want to misunderstand you greg, and i have a lot of respect for you but it sounds like you might be saying that if bisping fights contenders those are give-mes, and if he fights a contender like sonnen he doesn't deserve the oportunity.
Not sure what you mean. Look, I don't have anything against Bisping. It's just the cold, hard truth that he isn't a top-5 middleweight and the UFC is trying to figure out how to deal with that.
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12.04.2011 | 1:16 AM ET
Predictions: 5 of 10 Winners, 0 Perfect, 250 Points | Tied for 437th
When was the last time Bisping fought a decent striker? Wanderlei, and he got beat 3 times in one fight. Before that? Henderson, we know how that ended.
As soon as Bisping beats someone who is top 25 I will be impressed. When he beats a decent striker I may be impressed. As long as Vitor, Maia, Munoz, Sonnen, Palhares, Okami, hell even Brian Stann exist, Bisping doesn't deserve a title shot. He needs to beat one of them.
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12.04.2011 | 1:19 AM ET
Predictions: 5 of 10 Winners, 0 Perfect, 250 Points | Tied for 437th
"We Are All One"
12.04.2011 | 1:19 AM ET
Predictions: 5 of 10 Winners, 0 Perfect, 250 Points | Tied for 437th
Yeah it was strange. Rogan and Dana are both feeding us a story right now. Dana tweeted "that was the most one side fight I've ever seen" ... which is crazy.
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12.04.2011 | 1:22 AM ET
Predictions: 5 of 10 Winners, 0 Perfect, 250 Points | Tied for 437th
Oh i see. So if Bisping fights a guy who is more of a grappler he usually wins, if he fights a guy who is mostly a striker he probably won't. I hadn't made that connection before. I'm not being sarcastic either. The MW division is confusing.
I thought sonnen said he was not fighting munoz
"You don't have to be perfect, just dont be fraudulant"
12.04.2011 | 1:23 AM ET
Predictions: 5 of 10 Winners, 0 Perfect, 250 Points | Tied for 437th
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12.04.2011 | 1:23 AM ET
Predictions: 4 of 10 Winners, 0 Perfect, 200 Points | Tied for 535th
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12.04.2011 | 1:24 AM ET
Predictions: 5 of 10 Winners, 0 Perfect, 250 Points | Tied for 437th
I think @mino characterizes them a little too harshly. They're good UFC-level fighters. But his next point is correct - if Bisping wants to be considered an elite fighter he needs to fight and beat other elite fighters.
* Edited at 12.04.2011, 1:26 AM ET *
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12.04.2011 | 1:24 AM ET
Predictions: 8 of 10 Winners, 3 Perfect, 500 Points | Tied for 11th with 2 others
Pretty good picks for my first time, if I say so myself. Tied for 11th.
12.04.2011 | 1:24 AM ET
Predictions: 5 of 10 Winners, 1 Perfect, 275 Points | Tied for 385th
but i was not impressed by Mayhem's Performance
and Bisping was the one who dropped 40 lbs
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12.04.2011 | 1:25 AM ET
Predictions: 5 of 10 Winners, 1 Perfect, 275 Points | Tied for 385th
"Don't argue with an idiot, they will bring you down to their level and beat you with experience." - Bark Twain
12.04.2011 | 1:26 AM ET
Predictions: 5 of 10 Winners, 0 Perfect, 250 Points | Tied for 437th
thanks mino :) i try to be fair
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12.04.2011 | 1:27 AM ET
Predictions: 5 of 10 Winners, 0 Perfect, 250 Points | Tied for 437th
I don't really understand this post and maybe I should approach this topic tomorrow when I'm more sober, but I don't think Bisping is an elite striker and will lose to every elite striker without a gas tank. Bisping has good cardio, I'll give him that. He'll lose to a lot of grapplers (Munoz, Maia, Palhares, Sonnen) but they have to be guys who present a threat on the feet or that can get him on the ground.
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