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UFC 197: Jones vs. Saint Preux Discussion Thread

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skelliher
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04.22.2016 | 7:38 PM ET

Predictions: 10 of 12 Winners, 4 Perfect, 615 Points   |   Tied for 195th

The fighters are weighed in and we're set for UFC 197: McGregor vs. Dana Whi ... Oh, I mean, Jones vs. OSP!!!

Seriously, though. It should be a fun little card. 

Prelims kick off on UFC Fight Pass at 630pm ET before switching to FS1 at 8pm. The PPV main card, as always, goes down at 10pm. 

Enjoy!

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UFC 197
  • Saturday 04.23.2016 at 10:00 PM ET
  • U.S. Broadcast: Pay Per View | Prelims: Fox Sports 1
  • Promotion: Ultimate Fighting Championship
  • Ownership: Zuffa, LLC
  • Venue: MGM Grand Garden Arena
  • Location: Las Vegas, Nevada, United States
  • Enclosure: Octagon
  • TV Announcers: Mike Goldberg, Joe Rogan
  • Ring Announcer: Bruce Buffer
  • Post-Fight Interviews: Joe Rogan
  • Ticket Revenue (live gate): $2,300,000
  • Attendance: 11,352
  • PPV Buys / Buyrate: 322,000 | TV Ratings: 835,000 avg. viewers (FS1 prelims)
  • MMA Bouts: 12
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Bout   Info
Jon Jones   defeats   Ovince St. Preux   via Decision, Unanimous   5 Rounds, 25:00 Total Bout Page
Demetrious Johnson   defeats   Henry Cejudo   via KO/TKO, Knees and Punches   2:49 Round 1 of 5 Bout Page
Edson Barboza   defeats   Anthony Pettis   via Decision, Unanimous   3 Rounds, 15:00 Total Bout Page
Robert Whittaker   defeats   Rafael Natal   via Decision, Unanimous   3 Rounds, 15:00 Total Bout Page
Yair Rodriguez   defeats   Andre Fili   via KO/TKO, Head Kick   2:15 Round 2 of 3, 7:15 Total Bout Page
Sergio Pettis   defeats   Chris Kelades   via Decision, Unanimous   3 Rounds, 15:00 Total Bout Page
Danny Roberts   defeats   Dominique Steele   via Decision, Unanimous   3 Rounds, 15:00 Total Bout Page
Carla Esparza   defeats   Juliana Lima   via Decision, Unanimous   3 Rounds, 15:00 Total Bout Page
James Vick   defeats   Glaico França   via Decision, Unanimous   3 Rounds, 15:00 Total Bout Page
Walt Harris   defeats   Cody East   via KO/TKO, Punches   4:18 Round 1 of 3 Bout Page
Marcos Rogério de Lima   defeats   Clint Hester   via Submission, Arm Triangle Choke   4:35 Round 1 of 3 Bout Page
Kevin Lee   defeats   Efrain Escudero   via Decision, Unanimous   3 Rounds, 15:00 Total Bout Page

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dtrain24
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04.23.2016 | 8:47 PM ET

Predictions: 10 of 12 Winners, 3 Perfect, 605 Points   |   Tied for 269th

@GreenHornet I honestly think Martins would hand Vick his first pro loss at this point. Adriano's one of the more underrated fighters at 155 (probably because he never fights, for some reason), and I think he's more well-rounded.

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04.23.2016 | 8:48 PM ET

Predictions: 10 of 12 Winners, 4 Perfect, 615 Points   |   Tied for 195th

@dtrain, agreed, Martins is on another level right now.
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04.23.2016 | 8:49 PM ET

Predictions: 10 of 12 Winners, 2 Perfect, 565 Points   |   Tied for 484th

Carla 10-9

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04.23.2016 | 8:49 PM ET

Predictions: 8 of 12 Winners, 4 Perfect, 500 Points   |   Tied for 892nd

10-9 Esparza

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terrencetj
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04.23.2016 | 8:49 PM ET

Predictions: 10 of 12 Winners, 4 Perfect, 615 Points   |   Tied for 195th

First round a clear one for Esparza.
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04.23.2016 | 8:50 PM ET

Predictions: 10 of 12 Winners, 4 Perfect, 615 Points   |   Tied for 195th

Duffy vs Vick would be a barnburner
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04.23.2016 | 8:50 PM ET

Predictions: 8 of 12 Winners, 4 Perfect, 500 Points   |   Tied for 892nd

Carla is my SW bae (before anyone else).

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04.23.2016 | 8:50 PM ET

Predictions: 10 of 12 Winners, 3 Perfect, 575 Points   |   Tied for 412th

10-9 Ju. Carla barely landed anything while Ju was going for submissions and upkicked her dome off.

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04.23.2016 | 8:51 PM ET

Predictions: 10 of 12 Winners, 3 Perfect, 605 Points   |   Tied for 269th

@MikeyG Yeah, he's exciting to watch. He has an underrated stand-up and a very good ground game, and his only UFC loss came to Cowboy. I just wish he fought more often, not sure why he takes long layoffs. He's not exactly young.

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04.23.2016 | 8:52 PM ET

Predictions: 10 of 12 Winners, 3 Perfect, 605 Points   |   Tied for 269th

@MikeyG Who would you take in Duffy/Vick? I'd have to think on that one but right now I favor Duffy. That'd be an excellent match-up though, and a step up like Vick deserves.

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04.23.2016 | 8:52 PM ET

Predictions: 10 of 12 Winners, 4 Perfect, 615 Points   |   Tied for 195th

As a striker, Esparza's movement makes me ill. She crosses her feet constantly. It's why she got lit up by Joanna and it clearly hasn't improved at all. 

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04.23.2016 | 8:54 PM ET

Predictions: 8 of 12 Winners, 4 Perfect, 500 Points   |   Tied for 892nd

@skelliher  True, but her wrestling is very good.  I think if Esparza moved to another camp to improve her striking, she would be more well rounded.

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04.23.2016 | 8:55 PM ET

Predictions: 10 of 12 Winners, 4 Perfect, 615 Points   |   Tied for 195th

It's not really her striking, it's her movement. Movement is the hardest thing to train into an experienced fighter. You need to start that **** young. Bad habits are tough to break and it's not a good sign that she learned nothing from the blitzing she took from Joanna.

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04.23.2016 | 8:55 PM ET

Predictions: 8 of 12 Winners, 4 Perfect, 500 Points   |   Tied for 892nd

Even with Carla's lack of striking she's probably still in the top 3 of SW fighters right now. Shows the gulf between the #1-2 and the rest.

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04.23.2016 | 8:56 PM ET

Predictions: 10 of 12 Winners, 3 Perfect, 575 Points   |   Tied for 412th

10-9 Cookie ****.

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04.23.2016 | 8:56 PM ET

Predictions: 10 of 12 Winners, 4 Perfect, 615 Points   |   Tied for 195th

Another round for Esparza but Lima ain't messing around on her back.
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04.23.2016 | 8:56 PM ET

Predictions: 10 of 12 Winners, 2 Perfect, 565 Points   |   Tied for 484th

20-18 Carla We'll see if she has the energy to last the 3rd. She looked like she was fading a bit. 

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04.23.2016 | 8:56 PM ET

Predictions: 9 of 12 Winners, 4 Perfect, 550 Points   |   Tied for 561st

20-18 Esparza

Not looking good, but good enough so far

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04.23.2016 | 8:57 PM ET

Predictions: 8 of 12 Winners, 4 Perfect, 500 Points   |   Tied for 892nd

20-18 Esparza.

* Edited at 04.23.2016, 8:57 PM ET *

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04.23.2016 | 8:58 PM ET

Predictions: 9 of 12 Winners, 4 Perfect, 550 Points   |   Tied for 561st

@Skelliher

"It's not really her striking, it's her movement. Movement is the hardest thing to train into an experienced fighter. You need to start that **** young. Bad habits are tough to break and it's not a good sign that she learned nothing from the blitzing she took from Joanna."


She needs some touch butt in the park

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