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08.21.2020 | 7:07 PM ET

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UFC 256
  • Saturday 12.12.2020 at 10:00 PM ET
  • U.S. Broadcast: Pay Per View | Prelims: ESPN
  • Promotion: Ultimate Fighting Championship
  • Ownership: Endeavor
  • Venue: UFC APEX
  • Location: Las Vegas, Nevada, United States
  • Enclosure: Octagon
  • TV Announcers: Jon Anik, Joe Rogan, Daniel Cormier
  • Ring Announcer: Bruce Buffer
  • Post-Fight Interviews: Joe Rogan
  • PPV Buys / Buyrate: N/A | TV Ratings: 503,000 avg. viewers (ESPN 2 prelims)
  • MMA Bouts: 10
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Bout   Info
Deiveson Figueiredo   vs.   Brandon Moreno   Ends in a Draw, Majority   5 Rounds, 25:00 Total Bout Page
Charles Oliveira   defeats   Tony Ferguson   via Decision, Unanimous   3 Rounds, 15:00 Total Bout Page
Mackenzie Dern   defeats   Virna Jandiroba   via Decision, Unanimous   3 Rounds, 15:00 Total Bout Page
Kevin Holland   defeats   Ronaldo Souza   via KO/TKO, Punches During Scramble   1:45 Round 1 of 3 Bout Page
Ciryl Gane   defeats   Junior dos Santos   via KO/TKO, Elbow   2:34 Round 2 of 3, 7:34 Total Bout Page
Cub Swanson   defeats   Daniel Pineda   via KO/TKO, Right Cross   1:52 Round 2 of 3, 6:52 Total Bout Page
Rafael Fiziev   defeats   Renato Moicano   via KO/TKO, Left Hook   4:05 Round 1 of 3 Bout Page
Gavin Tucker   defeats   Billy Quarantillo   via Decision, Unanimous   3 Rounds, 15:00 Total Bout Page
Tecia Torres   defeats   Sam Hughes   via KO/TKO, Doctor Stoppage (eye Injury)   5:00 Round 1 of 3 Bout Page
Chase Hooper   defeats   Peter Barrett   via Submission, Heel Hook   3:02 Round 3 of 3, 13:02 Total Bout Page

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HiDefff
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12.07.2020 | 12:20 PM ET

Predictions: 6 of 10 Winners, 1 Perfect, 365 Points   |   Tied for 943rd

@duck theres multiple reasons im picking Oliveira. 
im not sold that Tony is some fighting god like most other people. Hes literally losing every fight until hes not. His best attribute is being able to comeback in a fight hes losing. He aging at this point. hes fought a whopping 6 times in the last 4.5 years. Lando Vannata for gosh sakes had him hurt and ran out of gas. Kevin Lee had him mounted until he was traditional Kevin Lee and ran out of gas. Pettis washed and Cowboy as much as i love him purposely blew his nose to get out of that fight and hes basically a Can at this point. Shoulder strikes nearly KO'd him lol. Tony's stand up is fine but we learned its not good enough to rely on in his last fight. and it basically was one way traffic whether you admit it or not they could have stopped that in the 4th and i dont think anyone would have been mad about it. it was a beat down other than that one uppercut to end round 2. Lastly NO WAY IN HELLLLLL is Tonys ground game better than Oliveira's. Maybe wrestling sure but BJJ no way not a chance in hell. 
HiDefff
HiDefff

12.07.2020 | 12:25 PM ET

Predictions: 6 of 10 Winners, 1 Perfect, 365 Points   |   Tied for 943rd

OHHH BTW @DUCK 

Shana Dobson is back in action against another young inexperienced fighter. 
2020.12.07 12:55 PM ET

bout status update

Roberson vs. Lungiambula Changed from Confirmed to Cancelled
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12.07.2020 | 1:31 PM ET

Predictions: 3 of 10 Winners, 0 Perfect, 165 Points   |   Tied for 3316th

@hideff I just don’t think Charles is the guy to do it tho, Tony can’t really wrestle or doesn’t wresle and his stand up is great ,but not as good as Dustin, Justin , Conor and Hooker. I really agree with you on Tony not being a fight god and I was disliked to oblivion because I said Tony overated and Conor underated before the khabib fight last month. Just think Tony more ferocious 

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12.07.2020 | 1:52 PM ET

Predictions: 2 of 7 Winners, 0 Perfect, 115 Points   |   Tied for 3508th



* Edited at 12.07.2020, 3:51 PM ET *

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HiDefff
HiDefff

12.07.2020 | 2:47 PM ET

Predictions: 6 of 10 Winners, 1 Perfect, 365 Points   |   Tied for 943rd

If this were a few years ago i would take Tony for multiple reasons some being the same i just stated. Simply because Do Bronx used to be a quitter a few years back. If his game didnt work or he couldnt get you to the ground he would look for a way out. I think he has gotten passed that now though or at least i hope. One thing we can agree on is this fight no matter how it plays out, It will tell us alot about one fighter or the other. 
Hippie
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12.07.2020 | 2:56 PM ET

Prediction Comments

Predictions: 3 of 10 Winners, 1 Perfect, 190 Points   |   Tied for 3246th

Ferguson vs. Oliveira
Tony Ferguson, SUB, R3
******* crazy @ss match up here!

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12.07.2020 | 3:09 PM ET

Predictions: 5 of 10 Winners, 1 Perfect, 290 Points   |   Tied for 2100th

Tony is very likely going to win. I picked Gatheje over him but that's because Gaethje is a Boxer with big power and solid TDD. That was a bad matchup for him, this fight is not.Tony's BJJ is lethal but his wrestling is just moderate.

I like Oliviera a lot, but he's not a power puncher nor a boxer. He is definitely not going to KO/TKO Ferguson. As evidenced by the Gaethje fight, it takes something exceptionally monstrous to put him away. We don't even know what that is because it's never happened. Gaethje hits like a bus and couldn't do it.

 He's not subbing Tony either. Charles has superb BJJ but so does Tony. It's likely going to be stalemate in that department. It's rare that BJJ practitioners at their levels sub one another when they meet in MMA.

 So that leaves the possibility of a decision. Let's talk about that:

Tony's SLPM is 5.80. For Charles it's 3.27.
Tony does absorb slightly more per minute, but a lot of that has to do with him eating it to dish it out worse as a result of his pressure and when you consider who Tony has fought vs who Charles has fought, that's not especially surprising. 6 of Oliviera's last 7 wins have been to fairly low-output strikers.

Charles has in fact never fought anyone that throws at the rate Tony does, and every time he has fought a pressure fighter who does throw a lot he has lost--eg Felder, Holloway, Lamas.


Tony only loses this if he's a changed man after the shellacking Justin dropped on him. And personally I'm not willing to bet he is.

* Edited at 12.07.2020, 3:20 PM ET *

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12.07.2020 | 3:13 PM ET

Predictions: 3 of 10 Winners, 0 Perfect, 165 Points   |   Tied for 3316th

Can someone explane to me a reason why Hooper is -400 agaist anyone after he got his ass kick by Cacceres. At most he should be -200. Don't know much about Barret other then he not that great

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12.07.2020 | 3:32 PM ET

Predictions: 5 of 10 Winners, 0 Perfect, 265 Points   |   Tied for 2450th

Because no one want to bet on Petter Barret even with thosse ods

maybe the ods for Barret by decision at +550 is a good risk

* Edited at 12.07.2020, 3:34 PM ET *

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12.07.2020 | 3:50 PM ET

Predictions: 5 of 10 Winners, 1 Perfect, 290 Points   |   Tied for 2100th

I think Barret is definitely worth a play at those odds. Watch Barret vs McGunness  Mcguinness is pretty much a carbon copy of Hooper in terms of his striking style and build. Hooper is massively  overrated.


* Edited at 12.07.2020, 3:50 PM ET *

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2020.12.07 5:29 PM ET

bout status update

Grant vs. Li Changed from Confirmed to Cancelled
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12.07.2020 | 5:37 PM ET

Prediction Comments

Predictions: 4 of 10 Winners, 0 Perfect, 245 Points   |   Tied for 2774th

Ferguson vs. Oliveira
Tony Ferguson, TKO, R3
Stop sleeping on Tony.

Hippie
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12.07.2020 | 5:38 PM ET

Predictions: 3 of 10 Winners, 1 Perfect, 190 Points   |   Tied for 3246th

Got to be kidding, lost another fight.



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12.07.2020 | 5:46 PM ET

Predictions: 5 of 10 Winners, 1 Perfect, 290 Points   |   Tied for 2100th

UFC needs to put the main and co-main fighters in a bubble before this card gets cancelled.

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12.07.2020 | 5:47 PM ET

Predictions: 5 of 8 Winners, 1 Perfect, 315 Points   |   Tied for 1743rd

People are really overthinking Figueiredo-Moreno looking for angles for the underdog. 
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12.07.2020 | 5:49 PM ET

Predictions: 5 of 8 Winners, 1 Perfect, 315 Points   |   Tied for 1743rd

If you're in a main event, especially for a PPV, you should absolutely have to be in a bubble the month beforehand. If you get a cut of the PPV buys, you should shoulder the responsibility. 

* Edited at 12.07.2020, 5:51 PM ET *

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12.07.2020 | 5:57 PM ET

Predictions: 5 of 10 Winners, 1 Perfect, 305 Points   |   Tied for 1873rd

this card is quickly falling apart.

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12.07.2020 | 6:08 PM ET

Predictions: 5 of 10 Winners, 1 Perfect, 290 Points   |   Tied for 2100th

Just go back to fight Island IMO.
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12.07.2020 | 6:26 PM ET

UFC VS COVID

Predictions: 4 of 6 Winners, 1 Perfect, 280 Points   |   Tied for 2365th

It's only Monday and this ppv is down to 10 fights, I'm scared how bad it will be by fightday. :(
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12.07.2020 | 6:39 PM ET

Predictions: 6 of 10 Winners, 0 Perfect, 330 Points   |   Tied for 1433rd

Over the past 48 hours this card has lost 4 fights , making the bout total 10 from what was just 14 a few days ago ): ... 

The fights that were cancelled are : Gillian Robertson vs Andrea Lee (Lee broke her nose and was forced to pull out)

Angela Hill vs Tecia Torres 2 (Hill tested positive for Covid)

Dwight Grant vs Jingliang Li (Grant tested positive for Covid)

Karl Roberson vs Dalcha Lungiambula (Roberson tested positive for Covid) 

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12.07.2020 | 6:43 PM ET

Predictions: 5 of 10 Winners, 1 Perfect, 290 Points   |   Tied for 2100th

I care about all those apart from the Hill fight. Ugmoe SJW chickenhead looking *****, could care less if she ever fights again and I hope she's permanently affected by the Virus.
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