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UFC 224: Nunes vs. Pennington Discussion Thread

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skelliher
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05.11.2018 | 11:14 AM ET

Predictions: 10 of 13 Winners, 1 Perfect, 580 Points   |   Tied for 375th

The fighters are weighed in and everyone but Dern hit the mark. (She missed by 7 lbs this time.)

This card has flown under the radar, but it's growing on me by the hour. Maybe it's just because there's been a dearth of quality cards in the last couple months. 

Prelims kick off on UFC Fight Pass at 615pm ET before switching to FX at 8pm. 

The PPV main card, as always, touches down at 10pm. 

Enjoy!

* Edited at 05.11.2018, 11:14 AM ET *

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UFC 224
  • Saturday 05.12.2018 at 10:00 PM ET
  • U.S. Broadcast: Pay Per View | Prelims: FX
  • Promotion: Ultimate Fighting Championship
  • Ownership: WME-IMG
  • Venue: Jeunesse Arena
  • Location: Rio de Janeiro, Brazil
  • Enclosure: Octagon
  • TV Announcers: Jon Anik, Jimmy Smith
  • Ring Announcer: Bruce Buffer
  • Post-Fight Interviews: Jon Anik
  • Attendance: 10,696
  • PPV Buys / Buyrate: 85,000 | TV Ratings: 574,000 avg. viewers (FX prelims)
  • MMA Bouts: 13
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Bout   Info
Amanda Nunes   defeats   Raquel Pennington   via KO/TKO, Ground and Pound   2:36 Round 5 of 5, 22:36 Total Bout Page
Kelvin Gastelum   defeats   Ronaldo Souza   via Decision, Split   3 Rounds, 15:00 Total Bout Page
Mackenzie Dern   defeats   Amanda Cooper   via Submission, Rear Naked Choke   2:27 Round 1 of 3 Bout Page
John Lineker   defeats   Brian Kelleher   via KO/TKO, Left Hook   3:43 Round 3 of 3, 13:43 Total Bout Page
Lyoto Machida   defeats   Vitor Belfort   via KO/TKO, Front Kick to Chin   1:00 Round 2 of 3, 6:00 Total Bout Page
Cezar Ferreira   defeats   Karl Roberson   via Submission, Arm Triangle Choke   4:45 Round 1 of 3 Bout Page
Aleksei Oleinik   defeats   Júnior Albini   via Submission, Ezekiel Choke From Bottom   1:45 Round 1 of 3 Bout Page
Davi Ramos   defeats   Nick Hein   via Submission, Rear Naked Choke   4:15 Round 1 of 3 Bout Page
Elizeu Zaleski   defeats   Sean Strickland   via KO/TKO, Spinning Hook Kick and Punches   3:12 Round 1 of 3 Bout Page
Warlley Alves   defeats   Sultan Aliev   via KO/TKO, Doctor Stoppage (eye Injury)   5:00 Round 2 of 3, 10:00 Total Bout Page
Jack Hermansson   defeats   Thales Leites   via KO/TKO, Ground and Pound   2:10 Round 3 of 3, 12:10 Total Bout Page
Ramazan Emeev   defeats   Alberto Mina   via Decision, Unanimous   3 Rounds, 15:00 Total Bout Page
Markus Perez   defeats   James Bochnovic   via Submission, Rear Naked Choke   4:28 Round 1 of 3 Bout Page

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ImperatorFishrat
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05.13.2018 | 12:52 AM ET

Predictions: 7 of 13 Winners, 2 Perfect, 480 Points   |   Tied for 933rd

Late stoppage should have been waved as soon as the blood started flowing and she turtled. At least ten seconds too late. Bad corner, bad Reffing.
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05.13.2018 | 12:54 AM ET

Predictions: 9 of 13 Winners, 1 Perfect, 520 Points   |   Tied for 696th

Lesbian huddle at the end xD
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05.13.2018 | 12:54 AM ET

Predictions: 7 of 13 Winners, 2 Perfect, 480 Points   |   Tied for 933rd

Well who's next for Nunes? Unless it's cyborg I don't give a **** tbh. The division is squeaky clean after that.
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05.13.2018 | 12:57 AM ET

Predictions: 9 of 13 Winners, 2 Perfect, 555 Points   |   Tied for 500th

To be honest if she really wanted out, she could've told the ref or signalled to him at some point. Great performance by the lioness. 
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05.13.2018 | 1:01 AM ET

Predictions: 7 of 13 Winners, 2 Perfect, 480 Points   |   Tied for 933rd

Hard to tap to strikes when you're being ridden like an electric pony with punches raining down on you as you try to stop your brain leaking out your nose.
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05.13.2018 | 12:26 PM ET

Predictions: 10 of 13 Winners, 3 Perfect, 670 Points   |   Tied for 89th

This very good article by Chuck Mindenhall on MMAFighting.com 

"Grammar. The difference between knowing your **** and knowing you're ****."

MassaBruce
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05.13.2018 | 3:24 PM ET

Predictions: 12 of 13 Winners, 1 Perfect, 700 Points   |   40th Place

lmfao at all the people saying their corner can't be trusted. Her corner saved her from a LIFETIME of embarrassment. You don't get to quit when things get tough. This is a life-lesson. Especially if you say things like "I have something Nunes doesn't" ahahaha. 

If here corner would've let her quit she would go down like Roberto Duran "NO MAS". 

Quitting is Career-suicide. Take the KO loss like a grown-up and move on. 
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05.13.2018 | 4:26 PM ET

Predictions: 9 of 13 Winners, 3 Perfect, 620 Points   |   Tied for 214th

You know what a grown-up is!?
Spudgreg
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05.13.2018 | 4:26 PM ET

Predictions: 9 of 13 Winners, 2 Perfect, 570 Points   |   Tied for 429th

No they made her take unnecessary damage when she was exhausted outclassed and 4 rounds in the whole. She couldn’t just say I quit her corner are suppose to protect her from that embarrassment by saying that themselves. There is no shame in losing to nunes.

Blandest vs milstead comes to mind. Your losing either way but do you want to lose and bounce back in 4 months or do you want to lose and spend the next year out injured unable to put the loss behind you 
MassaBruce
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05.13.2018 | 4:52 PM ET

Predictions: 12 of 13 Winners, 1 Perfect, 700 Points   |   40th Place

There might not be shame in losing but there IS shame in quitting. "No Mas" is forever. Just take the beating. 
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MassaBruce
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05.13.2018 | 4:54 PM ET

Predictions: 12 of 13 Winners, 1 Perfect, 700 Points   |   40th Place

a kid with pictures of the Ninja Turtles trying to talk **** to a full-time Carpenter lmfao. I love this sight. 
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05.13.2018 | 5:18 PM ET

Predictions: 9 of 13 Winners, 3 Perfect, 620 Points   |   Tied for 214th

Lol.
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05.13.2018 | 5:53 PM ET

Predictions: 10 of 13 Winners, 3 Perfect, 670 Points   |   Tied for 89th

MAYBE I'd have been ok with her corner talking her into giving it a try at the beginning of the 5th IF they'd had the towel in hand and immediately thrown it as soon as Nunes landed the 1st elbow after the td. MAYBE

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05.13.2018 | 5:54 PM ET

Predictions: 10 of 13 Winners, 2 Perfect, 590 Points   |   Tied for 313th

@massabruce 
Nice picks this event. But I have to disagree with you on her corner telling her to continue fighting. She lost Rounds 1,3and 4 very convincingly. Round 2 could've gone either way. 

Please don't take this as me bashing you, we can agree to disagree on things and Pennington suffered the most damage in the 3rd/4th Rounds. Her nose was broke. She knew she had nothing left. She needed to finish Nunes for a W. Not only was her nose broke, at that point in the fight She was mentally broke as well. Her strikes offered very little to Nunes so she wasn't going to Ko her. Nunes was more superior on the ground so she wasn't subbing her. I see no problem with a 4th Round (5:00), technically that would be ruled as R5 Tko Corner Stoppage. I believe I can come up with 2 other fighters that have done this before and there was no backlash. Ex. 1 Nate Marquardt at the end of I believe R2 called it off against Gastelum. Not sure, I vaguely remember the details but that was at the UFC in Mexico City so he may have just been gassed out.
Ex.2 Chris Leben stopped the fight at the end of the 1st. I remember this one in great detail. It was UFC 168 when Anderson broke his leg on a checked kick by Weidman. But anyways Leban has always been a tough SOB, not great but tough/Banger you know. He's been known as a kill or be kill type of fighter. Not  .d his ammy or TUF Exhibition fights he is 22-11. 22 W's 17 finishes @ a 77% rate. His 11 L's, prior to his final fight was finished 5 times and Decisioned 5. He was on a 3 fight losing streak, loser of 4 of 5. And Uriah Hall totally had him outmatched in every aspect. Giving him his 6th professional Loss of his 11 total L's. 
MassaBruce
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05.13.2018 | 6:27 PM ET

Predictions: 12 of 13 Winners, 1 Perfect, 700 Points   |   40th Place

Good points. Nate's corner stopped it in between rounds vs Gastelum. Though, that wasn't a Championship fight. This was. Even Hermansson kept going. This is the most brutal occupation on the planet, if you're not up for it, don't do it. Taking damage is part of the game. I never have nor ever will feel sorry or "worry" for a fighters health. That's non-sense. They are trained to be locked in a cage & hurt another human-being, getting hurt happens. Deal with it. Suck it up buttercup. Lineker broke his jaw in the very 1st round vs TJ Dillashaw, but his corner knew if they wanted to wake up tomorrow, they can't stop the fight. That's not their place. Ali another great example. IDGAF what you think, you don't get to stop my fight. That's my point.  
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05.13.2018 | 10:00 PM ET

Predictions: 7 of 13 Winners, 2 Perfect, 440 Points   |   Tied for 1092nd

While I kind of agree that the corner should have stopped the fight, I can see why they didn't.  It's a slippery slope, you care about your fighter and you want to always do what's best for them but it isn't always clear what that is in the heat of the moment.  They know their fighter better than us, and perhaps realized that in the long run quitting the fight would hurt more than going out for one more round and getting finished.  Maybe they made the wrong choice, but I don't doubt that they were trying to do the best thing for her.  

The corner of a fighter really shouldn't necessarily be relied upon to save their fighter anyway, that is ultimately the job of the referee or the doctor, who can make that decision without any bias and base it solely on the safety of the individual fighter.  The choice to get up for round 5 was ultimately Pennington's choice alone, and she probably slept better than she would have if she hadn't stood up.  Maybe not, though, maybe her nose hurt too much, but you know what I mean.  She gave it her best, no regrets.

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05.16.2018 | 5:56 AM ET

Predictions: 9 of 13 Winners, 1 Perfect, 520 Points   |   Tied for 696th

Mods or whoever, did something happen to the up and down voting system here? I can't give more than one person a thumbs up anymore. And I've noticed I've gotten less thumbs up too, anyone else notice this? Is there now a limit to how many thumbs up you can give?
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