Topic: UFC Fight Night 50

Does this trend mean good things for the Hall of Fame?

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mulefloyd
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07.12.2014 | 4:14 PM ET

Predictions: 2 of 9 Winners, 0 Perfect, 100 Points   |   Tied for 1235th

Unlike FN 51 (Silva/Arlovski 2), naming this card Mousasi/Souza 2 shows a willingness by the UFC to acknowledge previous, non-Zuffa fights. I'm hoping this is a step towards the "UFC" Hall of Fame becoming a true MMA Hall of Fame with the inclusions of Helio & other pre-UFC 1 pioneers as well as Fedor, Sakuraba, and other PRIDE stars.

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UFC Fight Night 50
  • Friday 09.05.2014 at 07:00 PM ET
  • U.S. Broadcast: Fox Sports 1 | Prelims: Fox Sports 1
  • Name: UFC Fight Night 50: Jacare vs. Mousasi 2
  • Also Known As: UFC Fight Night Connecticut
  • Promotion: Ultimate Fighting Championship
  • Ownership: Zuffa, LLC
  • Venue: Foxwoods Resort & Casino
  • Location: Ledyard, Connecticut, United States
  • Enclosure: Octagon
  • TV Announcers: Jon Anik, Kenny Florian
  • Ring Announcer: Bruce Buffer
  • Post-Fight Interviews: Jon Anik
  • Ticket Revenue (live gate): $479,620
  • Attendance: 4,086
  • TV Ratings: 911,000 avg. viewers (1.068M peak, 485k FS1 prelims)
  • MMA Bouts: 9
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Bout   Info
Ronaldo Souza   defeats   Gegard Mousasi   via Submission, Guillotine Choke   4:30 Round 3 of 5, 14:30 Total Bout Page
Ben Rothwell   defeats   Alistair Overeem   via KO/TKO, Punches   2:19 Round 1 of 3 Bout Page
Matt Mitrione   defeats   Derrick Lewis   via KO/TKO, Ram and Punches   0:41 Round 1 of 3 Bout Page
Joe Lauzon   defeats   Michael Chiesa   via KO/TKO, Cut   2:14 Round 2 of 3, 7:14 Total Bout Page
John Moraga   defeats   Justin Scoggins   via Submission, Guillotine Choke   0:47 Round 2 of 3, 5:47 Total Bout Page
Al Iaquinta   defeats   Rodrigo Damm   via KO/TKO, Punches   2:26 Round 3 of 3, 12:26 Total Bout Page
Rafael Natal   defeats   Chris Camozzi   via Decision, Split   3 Rounds, 15:00 Total Bout Page
Chris Beal   defeats   Tateki Matsuda   via Decision, Unanimous   3 Rounds, 15:00 Total Bout Page
Chas Skelly   defeats   Sean Soriano   via Decision, Unanimous   3 Rounds, 15:00 Total Bout Page

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yossgold
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07.12.2014 | 5:18 PM ET

Predictions: 6 of 9 Winners, 3 Perfect, 400 Points   |   Tied for 203rd

Yeah, I think you're reaching a bit ... it's just getting the 2 because it's the second time they fight regardless of when and where, don't see this impacting their HoF in any way, it's just how you do things in combat sports ... if BJ fought Machida again they'd do the same ...

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07.12.2014 | 5:20 PM ET

Predictions: 5 of 9 Winners, 0 Perfect, 250 Points   |   Tied for 948th

You may be looking into it a little too much.

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07.12.2014 | 5:41 PM ET

Predictions: 2 of 9 Winners, 0 Perfect, 100 Points   |   Tied for 1235th

Well I said I was hoping but yeah you're both probably right :( 

I just don't remember the UFC ever publicly acknowledging non-Zuffa fights before. Do you?

Maybe it's just because none of the "official" rankings seem to remember those fights. On the SBNation MW rankings, only Helwani has Rockhold ahead of Jacare and none have Mousasi ahead of Jacare.

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07.12.2014 | 5:49 PM ET

Predictions: 5 of 9 Winners, 0 Perfect, 250 Points   |   Tied for 948th

I think it'd be great if the UFC Hall of Fame became a MMA Hall of Fame... I doubt it hapens though. Atleast anytime soon.

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07.12.2014 | 10:42 PM ET

Predictions: 3 of 9 Winners, 1 Perfect, 175 Points   |   Tied for 1155th

No, because they won't even put people in the HOF who have won titles in the UFC..

Jens, Frank Shamrock, yes even Sylvia who has the credentials to be in there.
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07.13.2014 | 10:29 AM ET

Predictions: 4 of 6 Winners, 0 Perfect, 200 Points   |   Tied for 1108th

Well it is the UFC hall of fame not the mma hall of fame so why would people be put in the UFC hall of fame due to things they done outside the ufc?

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07.13.2014 | 10:58 AM ET

Predictions: 5 of 9 Winners, 0 Perfect, 250 Points   |   Tied for 948th

People will start getting inducted for their PRIDE accomplishments eventually. Dana White is in love with Sakuraba, he'll end up getting inducted eventually, and obviously it won't be for his UFC career. Guys like Fedor will be in eventually. It just takes time. 

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08.02.2014 | 1:54 PM ET

Predictions: 2 of 9 Winners, 0 Perfect, 100 Points   |   Tied for 1235th

So now the official UFC page doesn't have the "2" after ether this headliner or Silva/Arlovski and the order in which this one is listed shows an obvious flaw in the consensus rankings. Mousasi beat Jacare, both are clearly top conteners, and neither has beat or lost to a fighter significant enough to justify Jacare being ranked ahead.

Granted their fight was a long time ago in MMA terms but since then Jacare has lost to Rockold and his best win is Kennedy unless you're in love with Carmont and that wasn't a particularly impressive win anyway while Gegard has only lost to LHWs and by decision. I include Machida as a LHW because he was very highly ranked there as well as the former UFC champ. 

So since even the tap consensus has it the same way, can someone give me a legit reason for it because I don't see it and I don't consider the KO of Okami to be one and that's by far Jacare's most impressive performance.

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08.02.2014 | 4:56 PM ET

Predictions: 2 of 9 Winners, 0 Perfect, 100 Points   |   Tied for 1235th

and Moraga/Scoggins?  Kinda throwin' the kid into the deep end aren't they?

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08.02.2014 | 6:54 PM ET

Predictions: 4 of 9 Winners, 2 Perfect, 265 Points   |   Tied for 929th

It's just a 2

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08.05.2014 | 3:01 PM ET

Predictions: 4 of 9 Winners, 1 Perfect, 225 Points   |   Tied for 1027th

I was just picking this card and thinking how much better quality it is overall compared to the upcoming 177 PPV. This event is looking like a 9.5/10 would bang.

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