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UFC 287: Pereira vs Adesanya 2
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12.30.2022 | 2:35 PM ET
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03.29.2023 | 3:35 PM ET
Predictions: 8 of 12 Winners, 2 Perfect, 495 Points | Tied for 764th
The "ONLY" time he hurt Alex during regulation time was blitzing and hitting him at angles "slightly illegal in kickboxing"
The after the bell punch that rocked Alex was only because round was over he had hands down.
Even if it was a legal punch which it was not theres no universe he found a ko there.
Take it or leave it Izzy can win but his best chance is to take chances which he rarely does anymore.
Yes he may be able to circle/back pedal, bike call it what you want and out point Alex too but he tried that twice and failed.
Alex is too good to get cleanly countered unlike Izzy, Alex was a world champ multiple show multiple division kickboxer.
"“I took no damage,” Hill said. “Most of the fall was me falling down"
03.29.2023 | 3:52 PM ET
@Joshjeffords
Predictions: 11 of 12 Winners, 6 Perfect, 715 Points | 5th Place
I think people make up strange post-fact narratives and are too focused on outcomes.
Izzy has rocked Pereira bad, in both kickboxing and MMA setting, there's no reason to believe that it's impossible for him to knock Pereira out. He has also (should have) won a decision the first time they fought if he wasn't robbed.
It is possible Pereira is in Izzy's head to a degree but I see a lot of people on here draw very strong conclusions. The more reasonable take is that both fighters can win but Izzy is likely to be up in points if it goes all the way due to consistently having a higher output.
Other than that it's difficult to have a strong opinion on what is going to happen, imo. Well difficult to have reason to be confident in that opinion at any rate.
* Edited at 03.29.2023, 3:53 PM ET *
"She’ll go there and smash her. She’ll get a title shot, become a UFC champion. We have a Ronda Rousey on steroids. This is what we have.” - Ali Abdelaziz on Kayla Harrison
03.29.2023 | 4:03 PM ET
Predictions: 8 of 12 Winners, 2 Perfect, 495 Points | Tied for 764th
All covered in my verbose and probably poorly written essay.
I've seen all three back and front, multiple times not the little highlights people watch and make assumptions.
Izzy could win a decision or late ko himself but facts and history again already laid out.
Not a fanboi of either probably will root for Izzy him being at all but output disadvantages.
This is not a kickboxing match so we can ignore that mountain of data which is a bad idea and I still don't see Izzy being favored.
Not saying you are wrong but until Izzy actually beats Alex nothing changes for me.
Thanks for reply I always enjoy reading your work.
"“I took no damage,” Hill said. “Most of the fall was me falling down"
03.29.2023 | 4:07 PM ET
Predictions: 8 of 12 Winners, 4 Perfect, 540 Points | Tied for 317th
I think Alex should be a close to moderate favourite, Bur I think Izzy can win also, he was 3-1 going into the 5th, 3 minutes away from winning
* Edited at 03.29.2023, 4:08 PM ET *
"Quack quack quack"
03.29.2023 | 4:36 PM ET
Predictions: 8 of 12 Winners, 2 Perfect, 495 Points | Tied for 764th
"“I took no damage,” Hill said. “Most of the fall was me falling down"
03.29.2023 | 5:55 PM ET
Predictions: 6 of 12 Winners, 0 Perfect, 300 Points | Tied for 4325th
The over 1.5 in this fight is a lock.
03.29.2023 | 5:57 PM ET
JoshJeffords
Predictions: 6 of 12 Winners, 0 Perfect, 300 Points | Tied for 4325th
Alex Pereira is a lock. People who are analysing this fight and picking Izzy are missing 2 very important things that became clear in the 1st fight.
Trust me when I say this is going to be a very very different fight to the first one.
* Edited at 03.29.2023, 5:58 PM ET *
03.29.2023 | 6:00 PM ET
Predictions: 6 of 12 Winners, 0 Perfect, 300 Points | Tied for 4325th
I have just laid a very big bet on Pereira.
* Edited at 03.29.2023, 6:01 PM ET *
03.29.2023 | 6:14 PM ET
Predictions: 7 of 11 Winners, 5 Perfect, 525 Points | Tied for 469th
Izzy got a leg kick checked, and it really ****** his leg up. His lateral movement was severely compromised. So when Alex closed in at the end of the last fight, Izzy couldn't roll out. He was trapped. But there were a million micro moments that led to that, that it's not reasonable to assume will happen again.
Like, Steph Curry can hit shots from 3/4s of the court away. And he does it in game from time to time. But he doesn't just pull up from there regularly because it's a low % shot, even if he can do it. Aaron Rodgers is really good at throwing Hail Mary's. But you still can't count on that.
Bookies are taking into account the stuff that happened before the box score result.
03.29.2023 | 6:34 PM ET
Predictions: 8 of 12 Winners, 4 Perfect, 565 Points | Tied for 198th
I got Izzy by DEC, but Pereira checked pretty much all of Izzy's leg kicks in the first fight and other than Round 1 & 3 defended pretty beautifully.
- Round 1, Izzy was losing the round other than his right hook that rocked Pereira in the final seconds.
- Round 2, was close, Alex landing a heavy jabs / a head kick with Izzy landing a good few shots than was taken down to end Round 2.
-Round 3, All Izzy pretty much with the takedowns and that heavy axe kick to the body.
-Round 4, I'll give it to Izzy because not too much landed from either fighter and Alex was clinched against the fence for most of the Round.
-Round 5, Pereira was working the body while Izzy tried to clinch, landing beautiful shots to the face and checked Izzy's leg kick that knocked him down. Than knocked his ass out.
This wasn't some dominate showing by Izzy that most remember, Alex was in the fight all the way until the end. His accumulated work turned out to be way more damaging than Izzy's and this wasn't no damn "Hail Mary" or "Half Court Shot." 😂😂🤦♂️ 🤡🤡
* Edited at 03.29.2023, 6:45 PM ET *
"They killed Jesus for speaking the truth..."
03.29.2023 | 6:52 PM ET
Predictions: 7 of 11 Winners, 5 Perfect, 525 Points | Tied for 469th
A goofball meathead logjam of synapses firing, and the only thing that really comes through is the desire to be in an internet argument. Bookies have Izzy favored because they're not operating on that type of level.
03.29.2023 | 7:10 PM ET
Predictions: 8 of 12 Winners, 4 Perfect, 565 Points | Tied for 198th
Izzy is the favorite because in most people's minds he can win the fight in the most ways. Usually how the betting lines work, why Sandhagan was favored against Vera etc.
It must be hard to not be able to think that critically and use basketball n football to compare to something not even remotely similar as in fighting😂 your schooling system has failed tremendously.
* Edited at 03.29.2023, 7:11 PM ET *
"They killed Jesus for speaking the truth..."
03.29.2023 | 7:13 PM ET
I don't even see the main event on bestfightodds.com? But this would be why Izzy is favored
Predictions: 5 of 12 Winners, 2 Perfect, 340 Points | Tied for 3713th
03.29.2023 | 7:24 PM ET
Predictions: 7 of 11 Winners, 5 Perfect, 525 Points | Tied for 469th
03.29.2023 | 7:25 PM ET
Predictions: 8 of 12 Winners, 4 Perfect, 565 Points | Tied for 198th
Alex was winning most of Round 1, Most of Round 4.. only rounds Izzy dominated was rounds 1 & 3 with his vast amount of abilities.
Including clinch n wrestling, the betting lines are in favor of Adesanya due to a mix of casual people thinking Izzy dominated mire than he actually did because they haven't rewatched the fight
than the more detailed betters realizing if Izzy can wrestle and clinch to slow Pereira's pressure he can win. While also there's a possibility to win standing up just like Pereira.
"They killed Jesus for speaking the truth..."
03.29.2023 | 7:26 PM ET
Predictions: 8 of 12 Winners, 4 Perfect, 565 Points | Tied for 198th
Idk if you knew this. And stop trying to switch the narrative on my point. Obviously you can use the last fight but that's to a CASUAL bettor, that gives $ to bookies week n and week out.
* Edited at 03.29.2023, 7:42 PM ET *
"They killed Jesus for speaking the truth..."
03.29.2023 | 7:27 PM ET
Predictions: 7 of 11 Winners, 5 Perfect, 525 Points | Tied for 469th
03.29.2023 | 7:29 PM ET
Predictions: 8 of 12 Winners, 4 Perfect, 565 Points | Tied for 198th
Obviously the last fight has something to do with the odds OPENING the way they did, im talking about why the lines still have Izzy as a favorite because dumbasses like you think Izzy "dominated" the fight; but keep trying to be disingenuous while I stomp all over your soy ass lil boy
* Edited at 03.29.2023, 7:44 PM ET *
"They killed Jesus for speaking the truth..."
03.29.2023 | 7:39 PM ET
Predictions: 6 of 12 Winners, 1 Perfect, 355 Points | Tied for 3381st
Also calling people soy boys while wearing a beanie isn't a good look. And put your 25% body fat arm down, it's not impressing anyone.
* Edited at 03.29.2023, 7:41 PM ET *
03.29.2023 | 7:41 PM ET
Predictions: 8 of 12 Winners, 4 Perfect, 565 Points | Tied for 198th
#1 you are ********
#2 That's the KING MMA Guru. Dweeb 😂😂
You men love talking about other men's looks it's pretty halirous.
"They killed Jesus for speaking the truth..."