UFC 262: Oliveira vs. Chandler

The official Tapology discussion thread for the event!

Chandler has such a professional athlete vibe, kinda reminds me of Tim Tebow, he always says the most basic things in as many words as possible. He's the most "ESPN" type guy in the UFC, I could see him doing commentary/analyst work in the future.

* Edited at 05.11.2021, 9:54 PM ET *

Souza vs. Muniz
Ronaldo Souza, TKO, R3
souza parlay piece

Aguilar vs. Lutz
Kevin Aguilar, TKO, R2
aguilar parlay piece

Charles Olivera vs Michael Chandler

This is a really hard fight to predict, I think Chandler might be slightly passed it as he's recent Belator run hasn't been that great. But He did knock the **** out Hooker. But this may be an unpopular oppion. But if Chandler didn't knock Hooker out then, Chandler would have lost that fight as the two shot that Hooker landed really hurt Chandler. I think if Hooker literally fought any other way, he would have won that, but hey power is the last thing to go. I have difficulty thinking pass the featherweight Charles Olivera. but dude a new man at 155 and he look huge now, so I need to see the new and improve Chucky Olives. Both the Tony Ferguson fight and the Kevin Lee fight is really impressive in different ways as the Ferguson fight was all 1-way traffic. And to dominate an all-time great really means a lot. But the Kevin Lee fight was the more impressive as that fight wasn't 1 way traffic and was a really tough fight for Chucky. It really show that he's different from the featherweight version of Du Bronx who quit at any adversity. This fight hurts me because I fell like Dana and Shelby really want Chandler to be champion. And I think Chandler does have the style advantage. I think Chandler be a hard guy to take down early and can threw a hard overhand punch that can knock out a horse. But I really do want to pick Charlie Olives as Chandler only path to victory is a 1st round KO and It hard to bank on a 1st round KO as all the other guy has to do is make a muddy track and Charles is really capable of that. Also Charles stand up is getting really good now and all Charles need to do is land a few good legs kicks as Chandler legs are weak. He literally loss the belt to legs kick and the 2 shots that Hooker throw that hurt Chandler that I mention earlier was leg kicks. And I don't even have to mention what happen if it goes to the ground even tho I think Chandler good enough not to get submitted. Another fact is that Chandler title fights record isn’t the best and that all his loss are in title fights.  he's 5-5 in bellator title shots

 

Tony Ferguson Vs Beniel Darrush 

This is a really hard fight for me to root for either guy as Beniel might actually be my favourite fighter in the UFC, and if you hate Tony, I think you hate fun. I might be rooting for Benny because Dude did get ****** by the UFC for doing them a favour and taking a short notice fight against Alex Hernandez. Straight down the ladder for him. And the fight before he was piecing up Edson Barboza on the feet before a fluky flying knee knockout. I really want Benny to reach his full potential and if he loses this weekend, they be another de tour for Benny. I don't give Tony much chance beside a 'flukey knockout', But at the same time, the fluky knockout is very likely to happen as Tony still has knockout power as he could of maybe finish Justin Gaeche with that uppercut if it wasn't at the end of the round. Mix with the fact that Benny only losses are by flukey finish in the fight i mention earlier. And even in the fights he won, He was doing the chicken dance in at least 3 of his 6 wins, and his 6 wins are either low level or not knockout guys, so a guy like Tony who a all-time great and has power. But If Benny stays conscious for 15 minutes, He should put a clinic with either what Justin Gaeche did with really powerful, accurate and big shot or if it goes to the ground, Do what Charles did as Tony has not a great takedown defence and usually depends on his old Reliable submission game and you ain't submitting a black belt like Benny or Charles easily. And Benny already did this strategy vs Carlos Diego. I think the smartest thing for Benny to do is to do both, As the blueprint to beat Tony is already out there. It’s a real 50-50 fight as Tony also have been slowing down, But at the same time I think his slowing down is a bit hard to calculate. Justin and Charles are way better then everyone Tony fought beside RDA, I love Tony, But he did fought average guys mostly because Khabib was hogging all the good competition. The Justin fight was a step up for Tony as he's last 2 guy he fought were old men Pettis and old men Cowboy, And the Justin fight wasn't a blow out and it was quite competitive also. I have no freaking clue who going to win this. But if I have to think objectively. I think Tony going to catch him along the way

 

* Edited at 05.11.2021, 8:12 PM ET *

Kaitlen Chookagian vs Vivian Aruljo

I think Chookagian is probley going to win because I think she one of the 15 women fighter who that I think is good. I find the difference between a good women fighter and a bad women fighter is constentacy as most women fighter win half the time against women better them and then lose to women worst then them. Not Chookgaian though as she usually wins when she not fighting a all-time women great in Valentina or Andrade. So, it might be one of the rare times, i don't think it stupid to bet on a women favourite. Now let get to the match-up in hand. I see Aruljo gassing bad in this fight. I think Aruljo has to finish Chook early to win this and I don't like the chance because it's WMMA, But Chook can get finished, granted it was to Valentina and Andrade. But if this fight does go to decision. I think Kaitlin can at least win a decision where the majority of people think she lost. All she needs to do is Kee Yah louder in the 2nd round to mind **** the judges as I think that going to be the round where people debate. But I don't even think she need to do that as Chook has been hitting harder lately or actually landing as she made Calvillo and Calderwood bleed. It good to see improvement as she was always pretty technical

Edson Barbosa vs Shane Burgos

I think it interesting since Edson recent step down from fighting the Tony, Khabib and Gaeche of the world. that the narrative of his fight with top 7-15 ranked gut recently is that he’s clearly winning the 1st round, clearly lose the 3rd round. And the 2nd round is up to debate with more damage on bottom vs takedown and control in the Felder fight or Volume vs 1 big strike in the Ige fight. And for the record he lost the Felder fight and won the Ige fight with my scoring. I be interested to see if it the same narrative again. But I think Burgos will win this fight as most people think wrestling is Barbosa kryptonite, they are plain wrong. It's pressure as Edson have really good takedown defence and the only person who can wrestle **** Edson was Khabib, so that doesn't really count, the people who can beat him or give him trouble are the people who can kept Edson on the back foot as it nearly impossible to do so. And Burgos can do so as that his style. Dude going to have his hands down and be in his face the entire time. throwing volume. This might be close because I think the leg kick could give Burgos trouble in his boxing stance, But I'm pretty confident in Burgos wining at least 2 rounds. Also think Barbosa is really overrated. Dude lost all his fight beside 2 since 2016 and people always think he's going to win

 Jacure Souza vs Andre Muniz

I really want to pick Jacure as stylistically is just better then Muniz everywhere as Munizs is a jiu-jitsu specialist with no knock-out power with 2 knockouts in his career of 20 wins. Also has bad cardio. So Jacure should win whatever way he chose as Jacure is one of the best to ever do it on the ground and if he chose. As he was getting to be quite the knockout artist in his later years with his knockouts of Weidman and Brunson and he could piece him up also on the feet. Also think Jacure also having better cardio. The thing that makes the fight interesting is that Jacure is 42 years old and MMA in 2021 has been No Country for Old Men with most old men getting absolutely wrecked and a majority of them to people they wouldn't have lost to like 2 years ago. Demetrious Johnson, Eddie Alverez, Cowboy Cerone, Frankie Edgar, Cub Swanson, Anthony Pettis, Alistiar Overem and Fabricio Werdom all met this fate. I think Jacure should break this trend because he way better than this guy, But I said the same thing for half the old guys, and they ended up getting killed anyone. **** it I take Muniz by Ko

* Edited at 05.11.2021, 10:18 PM ET *

Matt Scneel vs Rodrigo Bontarin

I think it cool how Matt Scnell is still in the UFC as he almost got cut from the UFC before they were cutting everyone from flyweight as he was on a 2 fight getting knock out cold streak in 2017. And now is still in the UFC to this day and he on a decent win streak with his only lost being to Pantoja, A top 5 flyweight so no shame in that. Doesn't have to do with anything, I just think that quite cool and a lot of my favourite fighter are fighter who improve drastically in a short period of time. Now let get to the fight. Matt Scneel is actually a really great flyweight and should be able to win this as he only loss are when people touch his glass jaw. But 2 out of the 3 guys in the UFC who did that is Rob Font and Pantoja, so should a guy with 3 knockouts out of 16 win and 1 of them being a doctor stoppage will be the guy to do it. **** no!!!. I see Matt Scnell should piece him up on the feet and on the ground is pretty even and Scnell does mainly win by submission also. So, either guy could submit him. The nail in the coffin is that Bontarin also has bad cardio so if Bontarin doesn't submit him in round 1, He will loss this quite definitively 

Lando Vanata vs Mike Grundy

Mike Grundy should win this and I'm pretty confident in it. first off Lando is a light weight and Grundy is a featherweight, Wikipedia say that fight is at 145, So Lando is going to be more drained. Lando isn’t that good and he's getting worst as the years go on. Only reason he's still in the UFC is that he's fun to watch. Dude only win in 10 Ufc fights are to 2020 Yancy Medourus, John Macdesi and the 6-6 guy who Anderson Silva 's Artem Lobov. Not really that impressive. On the flip side Grundy is a Olympic wrestler so he should be able to wrestle Vanita and dude does have heavy hands sleeping Nad Narimani and even having a competitive fight with Movser Evolive and almost beating him in the 1st round with a really tight guillotine. he going to beat Lando who’s 3-5-2 

Andrea Lee vs Antonina Shevshinko

I'm honestly perplexed that Andrea is the underdog and only 18% of people on tapology are picking her. This is my most confident pick on the card. I think people are falling for the trap of Lee 3 fight losing streak and Antonina coming from the same ****** as the great Valentina Shevshinko. So people also thinking she a great fighter when she clearly not. People are missing the fact that Andrea Lee last 3 fight, At least 2 of them were really bad robbery to Roxane Moderferi and statically the biggest robbery of 2020 in the Lauren Murphy fight, Even the Calderwood fight was a split decision. And you know what all 3 of these girls have in common, They all in contention for a fight with Valentina. So, they no shame in close losses. On the flip side Antanina wins are against some of the worst fighter in the division in Kim, Pudilova and Lipski. And when she take a step up, She get absolutely wrecked by any of the top girl, she got wresle**** by Moderferi and got 30-24 by Kaitlin Chookagain . When you are losing 10-8 to Kaitlen Chookgain is bad, it’s like getting knock the **** out by Demian Maia or Gogoplata by Conor McGregor, the loss ain't embarrassing but the way you did is. And Lee is a top women flyweight as if you are losing close decision or robbery to top fighter, you are a top fighter, And Antanina got merked twice by them. Now let talk about style, Andrea is better they're to. I think Andrea is better on the feet as Antanina stand-up isn’t that impressive and she better on the ground, even tho I think both girls are good offensively grappling, Lee only bad with getting takedown by wrestler and even then, she never gotten held down for long while Shevshinko got 30-24 wresle**** decision with 12 minute of control by a kickboxer. 

But Honestly hope I’m wrong as Andrea Lee is a Nazi and this fight is the first time, I'm rotting for a Shevshinko. Prove me wrong, Antonina, stick you Boot up her Nazi *****, so Shelby can send that Nazi ***** her walking paper

 

* Edited at 05.11.2021, 10:03 PM ET *

Jamie Picket vs Jordon Write

Fun fight where the winner get the privilege to get smashed by a prospect or two for the sweet sweet UFC pay check as the UFC need jobber. This one is a hard one as Jamie Picket is in the UFC because Dana respect that hustle, Not because of him being UFC level. He lost his first two contender series attempts to Chales Byrd and Puna, Jamie also made Tafon look Legit, so he does his job Wright. I can't pick Jordon Write as dude a can crusher, who has no cardio and no chin, Also Ike Vilenava got robbed of a victory and he was coming back, If Picket can survive for a minute, he should win this, But I wouldn't be surprise if write Kos him and Picket isn’t UFC level

Gina Mazany vs Priscilla Cataria 

50-50 fight right here as this is like the last fight, The winner get the privilege to job a few time. I'm picking Pricallia only by principle as Gina shouldn't be over -200 against anybody. Only worry is that I could be fading a bum with an even bigger bum. As Pricilla Catahria is like 1-4 in the UFC and her only win is to to 4-5 Mariya Agapova slayer Shana Dobson. to be fair Gina actually look decent in her last, in the process, becoming every horny male lease favourite fighter. Also James Krause train fighter are like undefeated in 2021, That show she has a good coach beside her and that really Important, Even though Krause is not fighting for her. To kept a short story short, Gina is more likely to win but not -200 favourite

Kevin Agular vs Tucker Lutz 

No idea who Tucker Lutz is, But I do think all contender series guy, that not the really underrated Dan Ige, Is seriously overrated. There are so many hype train from that show as the point of the show is to be entertaining. Not actually being good. And every single hype train have been derailed badly. You could fade every single contender series guy until they proven, Just on principle and make that Elon Musk money. But take this pick with a grain of salt because Kevin Agular ain't the best and I have no idea who Tucker Lutz is

Christos Giagos vs Sean Soriano

Unless Soriano is some really legit prospect then Giagos should get this and Giagos is quite the decent fighter. People are being to hard on him as dude took his last day on 1 day. And with a guy with cardio issue. No wonder he looks bad without a training camp. Dude was probley thinking. Worst case, I still whoop Minus ass. This fight is on a full camp, so you see the real Giagos. Giagos is a really legimate grappler for about a round and a 1/2 and then he gasses out and becomes a punching bag.  But dude is tough to get out of there so that usually enough for a victory. Also take this one with a grain of salt as I don't know who Soriano is 

Ending 

I put way to much effort in to this that I broke Tapology Character limit by about 4 time as it 5000 character and this 20000 character. I tried really hard to make this easy to read and intresting so this did took me a few days to write

* Edited at 05.11.2021, 8:20 PM ET *

Christos Giagos - is not  a world beater/ I can see the upset happening.  

If she grapples like she used to before she went to the ufc she wins. If she does the same boring ass Muay Thai that most girls do when they make the ufc she will go to decision like in her other 6 ufc fights and lose by another boring decision.
Woman striking is a sign it will most likely go go decision as few have the power to get a KO.
When they grapple its exciting.
Heavyweight men should bang. Not little girls that can’t break an egg. 
It’s inexplicable but so many are good grapplers and use it to make the ufc and they actually het finishes then they make the ufc and just feint feint feint and then circle more like holy holm and Joanna.
It’s like watching grass grow.

Andrea is the rare gal that actually knows how to do a hip toss.

Soriano vs. Giagos
Christos Giagos, DEC
Soriano is only back thanks to Chandler.

Picking Mazany vs Cachoeira for a prop finish at 2.75 (+175). Despite dog odds, a more likely outcome according to our algorithm. Staking high here.

Michael Chandler has the energy of someone campaigning for prom king and I can’t stand it. 

Very excited for the Tony vs Beneil fight. Love both fighters but hoping for a turn around for Tony as I feel he is one of the most unlucky fighters in UFC with the conditions that feel into his hands and never being able to hold that title. Either way I'll be super happy for whoever wins 

Think Tonys best days are behind him. So many wars, damage taken, plus age and mental issues. We always see these older and aging fighters who still "think" they have it still but the body has a different opinion. Beneil by dec

Michael Chandler seems like he comes home after winning a fight, puts on a pink dress and high heels and tells himself what a good girl he has been in the mirror 

Here is his oddest moment against Will Brooks

Chandler has never said what happened that I know of. Now another thing to think about. 

* Edited at 05.12.2021, 8:26 AM ET *

@Flying its pretty obvious what happened. He got hit so hard he thought he was at the post office dropping Christmas cards for grandma

You bring up a good point @Xonchris about Tony's mental health.  His losing streak began right after he got arrested or his wife wanted to do a restraining order, I can't remember exactly what really happened.  I just remember he thought he was being stalked by aliens or something like that and wanted to protect his son from them and his wife took the kid to her parents house while the UFC sent the******s to Tony.

Anyway, right after all that happened, he lost to Gaethje and Oliveira so this could be another loss vs. Dariush.

Love the breakdowns man. 

Soriano is pretty good. Had a terrible UFC run in his early 20's but the guy is talented as all hell. Striking is his main weapon and he's been training at Sanford with all the killers for a long time now. He's really good and if this stays on the feet i can see him putting a whooping on Giagos 

Yeah his wife said he told her he was throwing holy water on her I remember 

@Depmode you can't hang out with Eddie Bravo and not think Aliens are following you lol pretty sure that's a prerequisite to being Eddie Bravo's friend.