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UFC 230: Cormier vs. Lewis

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07.18.2018 | 4:00 PM ET

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UFC 230
  • Saturday 11.03.2018 at 10:00 PM ET
  • U.S. Broadcast: Pay Per View | Prelims: Fox Sports 1
  • Promotion: Ultimate Fighting Championship
  • Ownership: WME-IMG
  • Venue: Madison Square Garden
  • Location: New York City, New York, United States
  • Enclosure: Octagon
  • TV Announcers: Joe Rogan, Jon Anik, Paul Felder
  • Ring Announcer: Bruce Buffer
  • Post-Fight Interviews: Joe Rogan
  • Ticket Revenue (live gate): $2,841,718
  • Attendance: 17,011
  • PPV Buys / Buyrate: 250,000 | TV Ratings: 635,000 avg. viewers (FS1 prelims, 808k peak)
  • MMA Bouts: 12
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Bout   Info
Daniel Cormier   defeats   Derrick Lewis   via Submission, Rear Naked Choke   2:14 Round 2 of 5, 7:14 Total Bout Page
Ronaldo Souza   defeats   Chris Weidman   via KO/TKO, Punches   2:46 Round 3 of 3, 12:46 Total Bout Page
Jared Cannonier   defeats   David Branch   via KO/TKO, Punches   0:39 Round 2 of 3, 5:39 Total Bout Page
Karl Roberson   defeats   Jack Marshman   via Decision, Unanimous   3 Rounds, 15:00 Total Bout Page
Israel Adesanya   defeats   Derek Brunson   via KO/TKO, Knees and Punches   4:51 Round 1 of 3 Bout Page
Jordan Rinaldi   defeats   Jason Knight   via Decision, Unanimous   3 Rounds, 15:00 Total Bout Page
Sijara Eubanks   defeats   Roxanne Modafferi   via Decision, Unanimous   3 Rounds, 15:00 Total Bout Page
Sheymon Moraes   defeats   Julio Arce   via Decision, Split   3 Rounds, 15:00 Total Bout Page
Lyman Good   defeats   Ben Saunders   via KO/TKO, Punches   1:32 Round 1 of 3 Bout Page
Matt Frevola   vs.   Lando Vannata   Ends in a Draw, Majority   3 Rounds, 15:00 Total Bout Page
Shane Burgos   defeats   Kurt Holobaugh   via Submission, Armbar   2:11 Round 1 of 3 Bout Page
Marcos Rogério de Lima   defeats   Adam Wieczorek   via Decision, Unanimous   3 Rounds, 15:00 Total Bout Page

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PepeMMA
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09.28.2018 | 3:55 AM ET

Predictions: 7 of 12 Winners, 2 Perfect, 470 Points   |   Tied for 244th


https://twitter.com/NateDiaz209/status/1045474717660983296

Seems like Nate is pressuring the UFC for this 165 title fight

"Sometimes it's just time to stop"

MassaBruce
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09.28.2018 | 2:00 PM ET

Predictions: 6 of 12 Winners, 2 Perfect, 390 Points   |   Tied for 827th

Nate doesn't even know how to spell pressuring. 
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09.30.2018 | 7:58 PM ET

Predictions: 4 of 12 Winners, 0 Perfect, 260 Points   |   1668th Place

Nate has become a sad loser pretending like hes not gonna fight unless its for a 165 title.
I used to b a fan of the diaz brothers. But now they're all talk and no fighting. Its kind of sad.
I guess its the only way they can stay relevent. They were never even good fighters they were just tough and willing to scrap. Age money and drugs changed that i guess. Now they just talk **** like little girls.
Zulizani
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10.01.2018 | 3:26 AM ET

Predictions: 8 of 12 Winners, 2 Perfect, 505 Points   |   Tied for 121st

Harsh criticism.  Not as harsh as banning fighters for years and years for smoking pot.  Compound that with the fact that the real cheats often get smaller bans, or reduced bans in Bones case *cough*.

While the Diaz might presently be all talk, their lack of action is a result of the US anti doping agency whose corrupt and malignant presence remain a scourge.

The inept classifications and policies of USADA have made me change my opinion from athletes competing clean to "**** it, everyone can do whatever they want".  It's got to be better than throwing the book at stoners while bending over backwards to find every excuse why the presence of this or that substance was due to the tainting of another substance which, ironically, was supposed to enhance performance (including gas station **** pills). 

Damn, I'm getting angry for some reason.  **** USADA. **** Jones.  **** Werdum.  **** O'Malley.  At least Diaz isn't pretending to be some thing he aint.  You won't hear him make an excuse about how he accidentally got weed in his system because he was smoking a weed substitute that happened to contain actual weed.

Bah!!!

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10.01.2018 | 5:38 AM ET

Predictions: 5 of 12 Winners, 1 Perfect, 330 Points   |   Tied for 1338th

@Zuli I've been at point '**** it, let them do whatever they want' for a while now. USADA and other testing is almost utterly ineffective. Holly Holm has never popped and she's bigger and more straited in her thirties then she was in her 20's as a pro boxer. She has a ****oris like dr zoidberg has a face.

Yoel Romero is 41 years old and is more shredded than he ever was as pro wrestler. I pointedly refuse to believe he's clean, he just hasn't been busted. The **** is so good now that it's untestable after 8 hours.


All that happens in real terms is the best juicers never get busted and the guys who fight clean and legitimately take tainted supplements unwittingly end up on the hook. The Pareto distribution comes into play too; the more money a fighter has, the more likely they are to get away with it. So the parent promotion wins most of the time by virtue of this alone. And If a big star does pop, they cut a backroom deal to make sure they aren't egregiously out of pocket and get a return on their investment, and USADA goes for it because they are addicted to that WME skrilla.

 It's a species of corruption. Jones get a slap on the wrist despite being a multiple PED offender and Diaz gets shafted for four ******* years for smoking some hippy lettuce ( and if that's a PED i'm a ******* Lemur--when eating doritos and playing xbox becomes a pro sport, it might become an issue then I suppose).

The whole thing is a dog and pony show. Qui bono? Not the fans. Not the fighters. Just USADA and the UFC who get to mitigate the damage of 'accidents' because their pet testing agency is on the take.

**** it off, I say.

* Edited at 10.01.2018, 5:45 AM ET *

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10.01.2018 | 6:24 AM ET

Predictions: 8 of 12 Winners, 2 Perfect, 505 Points   |   Tied for 121st


I don't really want MMA to become a freak show of PED's (mainly because I'm skinny and it's hard to envision myself as the more muscled champions) but I will admit that it is less crazy & unfair than what is happening currently. 

I think me and the UFC need to see other people.

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10.01.2018 | 6:33 AM ET

Predictions: 5 of 12 Winners, 1 Perfect, 330 Points   |   Tied for 1338th

The thing is, it is already a freakshow of PEDS. People like Romero and Holm are chemical abominations. Prizefighting is basically predicated on PED use as are virtually all competitive sports. The vast majority, possibly all, of fighters are using something. Evander Holyfield has admitted to using steroids and is adamant that Tyson abused the **** out of them too. Canelo popped in the not too distant past. Cycling, baseball, football, pro wrestling...it's everywhere. Why should MMA be different?

The elephant in the room is thus: PEDS make prizefighting, and all sports, more entertaining. They make for better fights. It is what it is.

* Edited at 10.01.2018, 6:37 AM ET *

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10.02.2018 | 8:57 AM ET

All in or all out

Predictions: 1 of 1 Winners, 0 Perfect, 50 Points   |   Tied for 2024th

Either let everyone get juiced up or be more strict about it. All athletes do it in every sport. Eventually  the way society is becoming and its harder to entertain, they will have to let them. Makes for a greater event, not saying I approve.  Just saying It would not surprise me and the possibility of a modern day gladiator in the future wouldn’t either.  Something like gamer or hunger games, **** look at Russia doing the 4 on 4 mma.  Once the first guy gets beat the rest of that team just gets jumped. People would watch it and are getting bored or fed up more and more with sports entertainment.

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10.02.2018 | 2:42 PM ET

Predictions: 6 of 12 Winners, 3 Perfect, 425 Points   |   Tied for 543rd


Wow Shevchenko vs Eubanks as the main event?

Shouldve made poirier diaz the main. But I guess with how Diaz has been acting that could get cancelled


https://www.bloodyelbow.com/2018/10/2/17928820/ufc-books-valentina-shevchenko-sijara-eubanks-ufc-230-main-event-mma-news

"“All of a sudden, he was shooting for a takedown, and I’m like, ‘Oh, you’re a wrestler now? Remember, I’m the black belt in jiu-jitsu. And you’re shooting on me now? This is a wrap." - Nate Diaz"

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10.02.2018 | 3:05 PM ET

Prediction Comments

Predictions: 6 of 12 Winners, 0 Perfect, 315 Points   |   Tied for 1408th

Shevchenko vs. Eubanks
Valentina Shevchenko, TKO, R3
Your new headliner for MSG features a title challenger with a 3-2 pro record. Nice.

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10.02.2018 | 3:07 PM ET

Predictions: 6 of 12 Winners, 3 Perfect, 425 Points   |   Tied for 543rd

Should really help sell those PPV's lol

"“All of a sudden, he was shooting for a takedown, and I’m like, ‘Oh, you’re a wrestler now? Remember, I’m the black belt in jiu-jitsu. And you’re shooting on me now? This is a wrap." - Nate Diaz"

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10.02.2018 | 4:22 PM ET

Predictions: 5 of 12 Winners, 3 Perfect, 365 Points   |   Tied for 1098th

They're gonna trust Eubanks to make weight on short notice? This has to be a joke.
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10.02.2018 | 5:44 PM ET

Predictions: 5 of 12 Winners, 1 Perfect, 330 Points   |   Tied for 1338th

JJ knows she can't beat Shcevchenko so she's thought of a ******** reason to pull. She's never been able to beat Val.. Lost to her three times already.

Also, this is a squash match that I don't care about at all. Talk about a guppy feed. 125 isn't even a puddle, it's condensation on a windshield. Even the women's 145 division is deeper.

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PilloryChoke
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10.02.2018 | 6:09 PM ET

Predictions: 6 of 12 Winners, 1 Perfect, 355 Points   |   Tied for 1116th


This is the rare situation where I think their attempt to shore up a card is worse than doing nothing at all.

This won't draw, comes at the expense of a more interesting pair of fights, and Eubanks' weight issues will be in play.

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MassaBruce
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10.02.2018 | 6:44 PM ET

Predictions: 6 of 12 Winners, 2 Perfect, 390 Points   |   Tied for 827th

Prize-Fighting is predicated around savages who enjoy hurting other human-beings. Jack Johnson, Jack Dempsey, Suga Ray Robinson, Jake LaMotta, never took anything. Fook outta here with that nonsense. You have no idea what you're talking about. Again. 
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MassaBruce
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10.02.2018 | 6:46 PM ET

Predictions: 6 of 12 Winners, 2 Perfect, 390 Points   |   Tied for 827th

Nunes didn't even beat Shevchenko. No woman in the UFC has beat Shevchenko. Probably never will either. 
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10.02.2018 | 8:33 PM ET

Predictions: 7 of 12 Winners, 4 Perfect, 540 Points   |   Tied for 69th

Booking Katlyn Chookagian would have made more sense. She's a local fighter that is easily more marketable (aka she'll look better on the poster).

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10.02.2018 | 9:10 PM ET

Who? I know I don't follow wmma, but really?

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10.02.2018 | 9:49 PM ET

Predictions: 6 of 12 Winners, 2 Perfect, 405 Points   |   Tied for 688th

Well...that's absolutely underwhelming.  No offense to Eubanks, but she shouldn't be in this fight.  How the UFC could utterly botch the easiest matchmaking decision by doing JJ vs Shevchenko is beyond me.  But what the hell do I know, maybe Eubanks goes full Matt Serra and I will be proven wrong.

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10.02.2018 | 9:50 PM ET

Predictions: 5 of 12 Winners, 1 Perfect, 330 Points   |   Tied for 1338th

Val should be minus 10000 in this really. Short of some kind of freak injury I have no idea how she loses.

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