UFC 230: Cormier vs. Lewis

UFC HW's are not normal fighters nor athletes though man and no, I don't think Francis could lose 10 pounds. Unless he stopped working out, like that's gonna happen. What's his body fat %, 0.3 or something like that? Muscle weighs more than fat. Its not nonsense, i'm just used to being over 200 pounds with muscle. 

Big men don't cut big weight. Not now, not ever. And when they do its by changing their whole life style drastically, which takes a very long time. How long did it take Luis Henrique to cut from 250ish to 205? Over 12 months and he still gassed and lost. Stipes teammate, Milstead, took him 13 months to cut from 230ish to 205 only to lose. There's no evidence that supports any type of increase in winning % when it comes to men over 240 pounds cutting weight. DC doesnt count.  

The whole point of adding classes is to eliminate weight-cuts...So like I said, unless the 3-4 current UFC HW's that walk around at 230 wanna start cutting weight, which they might, the 225 division will more than likely be made up of fresh fighters. Like how a Mens strawweight division hasn't stole any flyweights while maintaining high-level MMA in Asian promotions. One, Shooto, Pancrase etc. 

Whereas adding a division between 155-170 would most definitely draw fighters from all over. Y'all got this a$$-backwards, I promise. 155 would be a desert. 

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Nah, he couldn't. He lost weight for his last fight and that sure worked out. 

10 pounds of what though? Ngannou is lean as greyhound, he's just a behemoth. He doesn't have 10lbs of fat to cut.Basically all of that would have to be water.That's a pretty gnarly re-hydration.

I'm not saying that its impossible, but I am saying that would probably make for a pretty ****** up Ngannou come fight day and he would be at huge risk of blowing the scale.It would have been much more achievable in the IV years. Now, not so much. He weighed in at 263 for the miocic fight. It's a cut he could make, but I can't accept that it would be anything like an easy one, and I also don't accept that heavies can cut weight as easily as the smaller guys. I don't think it's directly translatable that way.

However Yoel Romero had to be carried to the elevator after his weigh in for the last knuckles fight, then went on to fight the full five.Justino cut herself into a sundried tomato and turned up.So anything's possible I guess.

In any case I agree with you, I don't like 225. Although I don't think Francis could get there ( and still be in fighting shape) I believe quite a few of the heavies in the mix now could, and more would try. We'd see more weight misses, more chaos in the divisions, and more circus fights.

My main point is that there's no evidence that supports grown men like Lewis, Blaydes, Bhullar etc could cut 25+ pounds nor would ever want to. 

These men made a decision to eat things like bread, pasta a long time ago. 205 isn't possible with such food. Not in there case anyway. 


You can either have abs or eat bread. You can't have both, not in this life. HW's are big because they want to be. Plain and simple. You WILL NOT convince them to stop eating what they want, not for anything. Thinking that adding 225 would clean out HW is like taking a bet on prostitution ceasing to exist..Its not gonna happen. The sky is blue, big dudes dont cut weight. 

These HW's aren't cutting water..they're trimming fat. You might have neat stats on water from a bunch of 170 pounders, but you don't fathom lard. I do. 

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My main points couldn't have been any clearer. There is no incentive. YOU WILL NOT get them to cut weight. when you said 75% of HW's could make 225 you were talking out of your ass. Then you brought up water weight which has nothing to do with HW's lmfao. 


I'm over this. Y'all are clueless as usual. 

Grow a pair @Roto Call me out then old man. "Certain members" lmfao. Its me, you have a problem with, but you won't come to me about it. Instead you whine on random forum posts. How mature. You offer nothing to this website. You don't update Wiki's, post weigh-ins results, fight results. You do nothing but whine about people and make terrible picks @Roto. 

And it doesnt matter what I post, you guys get salty anyway. I was having a civil conversation until somebody called it nonsense. 

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"its a shame what this site has become"



Before I showed up you guys weren't even keeping up with Russian MMA OR updating Wiki's LMFAO

@Greg well yeah, this is why I don't like 225. Even if a bunch of heavies couldn't make it and make it healthily, they would still try to. That means more associated health problems which would lead to more fizzled bouts, and more missed weights, also leading to more fizzled bouts. And then there's the issue of whether or not they should be fighting at 225 anyway...is it really fair? I don't like this business of fighters killing themselves to fight in classes that are simply way too light for them just to get a size and power advantage. In a way it defeats the point of having weight classes at all.

I'm still waiting for you to contribute to this site in any way shape or form @Roto. You whined, so I called you out. Pretty typical indeed. You've obviously been allowed to run your mouth waaay to much in life. 

So you're talking hypotheticals now @Greg? I stated FACTS. 2 different HW's that took over a year to cut the proper weight and still lost.


You're argument is hypothetical. "If they could they would" 

and Ive proven that they can't, won't and IF they do its not worth it. 



Cased closed. 

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