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09.13.2013 | 12:36 AM ET
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"Let's just say if we fought again I wouldn't need to keep my hands up." - Luke Rockhold on Michael Bisping's punching power
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09.13.2013 | 12:45 AM ET
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09.13.2013 | 2:03 AM ET
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"Let's just say if we fought again I wouldn't need to keep my hands up." - Luke Rockhold on Michael Bisping's punching power
09.13.2013 | 2:12 AM ET
"Let's just say if we fought again I wouldn't need to keep my hands up." - Luke Rockhold on Michael Bisping's punching power
09.15.2013 | 7:41 PM ET
"Let's just say if we fought again I wouldn't need to keep my hands up." - Luke Rockhold on Michael Bisping's punching power
09.15.2013 | 9:22 PM ET
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09.15.2013 | 9:36 PM ET
Condit has 13 submission wins 5 Armbars, 3 rear naked chokes, 2 Triangles, 1 Kimura, 1 arm triangle, 1 guillotine. With this said he hasn't land a submission in his last 10 fights despite spending time on his back in every single one of these fights besides Hardy.
I think Condit's guard needs to improve before he gets another title shot as do I think his ability to move lateral and angle better with his kicks. The two biggest flaws in Condit's game besides "takedown defense bro". Is he needs to tighten up his submission game and attack with more than elbows off his back ( aka sweeps, submissions, create scrambles to get to feet or find the back ) and to be able to angle his strikes better ( especially for his kicks sake ) if you notice Condit lands kicks often but usually isn't really hurting guys with them. He has awkward but effective leg strikes, still if you look at Hug or Zaromski's as good examples to make their kicks more devastating they had to adapt their movement an angles for their styles because moving like a thai guy or a kickboxer isn't ideal for them, same can be said for Condit he has a different powerzone in his leg strikes but he neglects finding it often in his fights, lateral movement and slightly different angles can help this, also lateral movement so he can't get rushed into the cage then taken down ( Aka Hendricks did to him over an over ).
"If I have a goal, then it is to escape from this literalism. I'll never achieve it; in the same way that I'll never manage to describe what really dwells within my character, although I keep on trying."
09.15.2013 | 9:39 PM ET
Seriously, he is the only fighter that consistently does as much or more damage on his back than his opponent on top of him. Did you see what he ******* did to Johny Hendricks?
Again, don't get me wrong Condit would get submitted by a bunch of the guys on Idrownfish's list. But if you look at it from a judge's perspective, no fighter scores more points from their guard than Condit.
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"الله أكبرl"
09.15.2013 | 9:41 PM ET
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09.15.2013 | 9:45 PM ET
Also I find it funny how Nomad brings up Condit not being able to sweep or threaten Georges St-Pierre. Who can? GSP is arguably the greatest grappler in the history of the welterweight division and there's a reason why; good luck trying to control GSP off your back, let alone threaten a submission.
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"الله أكبرl"
09.15.2013 | 9:56 PM ET
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"If I have a goal, then it is to escape from this literalism. I'll never achieve it; in the same way that I'll never manage to describe what really dwells within my character, although I keep on trying."
09.15.2013 | 10:13 PM ET
"If I have a goal, then it is to escape from this literalism. I'll never achieve it; in the same way that I'll never manage to describe what really dwells within my character, although I keep on trying."
09.15.2013 | 10:51 PM ET
Right now you're saying that Carlos Condit can't threaten GSP off his back so he can't become a champion. What the **** does that have to do with literally anything in this thread? You're talking about Condit's leg kicks, his propensity to back up in straight lines when he fights and his mediocre takedown defense...again what the **** does that have to do with Carlos Condit's guard? And when you do finally talk about his guard, you talk about how he couldn't threaten Johny Hendricks or GSP. The former is a total load of **** because Johny Hendricks was safer standing up in thay fight than he was on the ground because of the Condit-level beating he was giving Hendricks and the latter is irrelevant because GSP is an anomaly.
I also find it funny how basic of an analysis you're giving. You're saying that because of Condit's lack of submission wins, he's not a good grappler. That...is a load of basic stupid ****. I'm not even gonna elaborate on that, that was a stupid comment and you should apologize to the readers in this thread.
The question posed (read between the lines) was if Carlos Condit has the best guard in MMA. You have failed to adequately respond to that question.
"الله أكبرl"
09.15.2013 | 11:01 PM ET
"Surrender??!! You think this letter on my head stands for France?" - Captain America
09.15.2013 | 11:23 PM ET
"If I have a goal, then it is to escape from this literalism. I'll never achieve it; in the same way that I'll never manage to describe what really dwells within my character, although I keep on trying."
09.15.2013 | 11:24 PM ET
"If I have a goal, then it is to escape from this literalism. I'll never achieve it; in the same way that I'll never manage to describe what really dwells within my character, although I keep on trying."
09.16.2013 | 12:26 AM ET
And Anik ... don't call people's opinions stupid bro. Just Helax.
"When a game cannot be won, change the game."
09.16.2013 | 12:27 AM ET
"If I have a goal, then it is to escape from this literalism. I'll never achieve it; in the same way that I'll never manage to describe what really dwells within my character, although I keep on trying."
09.16.2013 | 1:00 AM ET
I agree with Anik: his guard is the very definition of what I want to see ranked here. He is incredibly active off his back, does a lot of damage, and his sweeps are very good (although they tend to be useless since he is better off his back than on top). Also, seeing Jonny Hendricks get ****** up from the top position was pretty funny.
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"Let's just say if we fought again I wouldn't need to keep my hands up." - Luke Rockhold on Michael Bisping's punching power
09.16.2013 | 1:09 AM ET
"Surrender??!! You think this letter on my head stands for France?" - Captain America
09.16.2013 | 1:14 AM ET
"If I have a goal, then it is to escape from this literalism. I'll never achieve it; in the same way that I'll never manage to describe what really dwells within my character, although I keep on trying."