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12.21.2020 | 1:13 PM ET

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UFC on ABC 2
  • Saturday 04.10.2021 at 11:30 AM ET
  • U.S. Broadcast: ABC | Prelims: ESPN+
  • Name: UFC on ABC 2: Vettori vs. Holland
  • Also Known As: UFC Vegas 23
  • Promotion: Ultimate Fighting Championship
  • Ownership: Endeavor
  • Venue: UFC APEX
  • Location: Las Vegas, Nevada, United States
  • Enclosure: Octagon
  • TV Announcers: Jon Anik, Daniel Cormier, Dominick Cruz
  • Ring Announcer: Bruce Buffer
  • Interviews: Daniel Cormier | Backstage: Megan Olivi
  • TV Ratings: 859,000 avg. viewers (377k ESPN prelims)
  • MMA Bouts: 13
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Bout   Info
Marvin Vettori   defeats   Kevin Holland   via Decision, Unanimous   5 Rounds, 25:00 Total Bout Page
Arnold Allen   defeats   Sodiq Yusuff   via Decision, Unanimous   3 Rounds, 15:00 Total Bout Page
Julian Marquez   defeats   Sam Alvey   via Submission, Rear Naked Choke   2:07 Round 2 of 3, 7:07 Total Bout Page
Mackenzie Dern   defeats   Nina Nunes   via Submission, Armbar   4:48 Round 1 of 3 Bout Page
Daniel Rodriguez   defeats   Mike Perry   via Decision, Unanimous   3 Rounds, 15:00 Total Bout Page
Joe Solecki   defeats   Jim Miller   via Decision, Unanimous   3 Rounds, 15:00 Total Bout Page
Mateusz Gamrot   defeats   Scott Holtzman   via KO/TKO, Punch to Ground and Pound   1:22 Round 2 of 3, 6:22 Total Bout Page
John Makdessi   defeats   Ignacio Bahamondes   via Decision, Split   3 Rounds, 15:00 Total Bout Page
Jarjis Danho   defeats   Yorgan De Castro   via KO/TKO, Right Hook   3:02 Round 1 of 3 Bout Page
Jack Shore   defeats   Hunter Azure   via Decision, Split   3 Rounds, 15:00 Total Bout Page
Luis Saldaña   defeats   Jordan Griffin   via Decision, Unanimous   3 Rounds, 15:00 Total Bout Page
Da Un Jung   defeats   William Knight   via Decision, Unanimous   3 Rounds, 15:00 Total Bout Page
Impa Kasanganay   defeats   Sasha Palatnikov   via Submission, Rear Naked Choke   0:26 Round 2 of 3, 5:26 Total Bout Page

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FistyMcKickerChoke
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04.09.2021 | 3:22 PM ET

Prediction Comments

Predictions: 9 of 13 Winners, 1 Perfect, 505 Points   |   Tied for 1813th

Vettori vs. Holland
Marvin Vettori, SUB, R4
Vettori is unbreakable and doesn't slow down. Holland has been beating lesser competition and short-notice fighters for the most part lately, and Vettori is better than Brunson.

Allen vs. Yusuff
Sodiq Yusuff, TKO, R3
Allen is tough but anyone can lose from a cut, and a doctor's stoppage is what I predict here.

Alvey vs. Marquez
Julian Marquez, SUB, R1
Club n sub. Send Alvey to Bare Knuckle Boxing please

Nunes vs. Dern
Mackenzie Dern, SUB, R2
Nunes would've lost to the old version of Dern, but since changing camps she's gotten even better

Holtzman vs. Gamrot
Mateusz Gamrot, DEC
Gamrot is undefeated, even Kutateladze agrees

Makdessi vs. Bahamondes
Ignacio Bahamondes, TKO, R2
Smells like a head kick to me

Jung vs. Knight
William Knight, TKO, R2
I feel like Knight has more killer instinct and it will pay off.

Kasanganay vs. Palatnikov
Impa Kasanganay, DEC
Impa should've always been fighting at this weight.

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04.09.2021 | 3:35 PM ET

Predictions: 9 of 13 Winners, 2 Perfect, 530 Points   |   Tied for 1580th

Marvin loves being in a fight, you can see it in his face. That's the attitude that will either get you far or cut.

Some real HGH gut on him, btw. Concerns me, given that he has already been suspended once for steroids.
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04.09.2021 | 3:52 PM ET

Predictions: 5 of 13 Winners, 3 Perfect, 340 Points   |   Tied for 2975th

I’m happy the Durmont fight is off, and I hope Erin get paid. The comension need to punish harder for big miss, as one of the dumbest thing in the sport is that missing weight by 0.1 pounds fines you the same as missing weight by 10 pounds, they really need a incremeantal punishment, I think missing weight is pretty much ‘legal steroids’ so 20% fine for big miss ain’t good enough

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DCpredictions
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04.09.2021 | 4:09 PM ET

Predictions: 7 of 13 Winners, 1 Perfect, 375 Points   |   Tied for 2793rd

I definitely didn't think jung would be that much bigger. Maybe he's in shoes and knight flip flops? That **** reminds me of winn vs arroyo some time back
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04.09.2021 | 4:24 PM ET

Predictions: 9 of 13 Winners, 1 Perfect, 505 Points   |   Tied for 1813th

Dern is looking like the best shape of her life. Her arms look strong, that camp change is paying off 

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04.09.2021 | 4:31 PM ET

Predictions: 9 of 13 Winners, 2 Perfect, 515 Points   |   Tied for 1721st

The size difference of jung and knight is insane their weigh in surprised me
NA850
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04.09.2021 | 4:49 PM ET

Predictions: 10 of 13 Winners, 6 Perfect, 665 Points   |   Tied for 408th

For some reason, though I do think Vettori wins, I also wouldn't be surprised if he got TKO'd by Holland despite the fact he's never been TKO'd before. Maybe I'm just letting my imagination run away with me lol

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04.09.2021 | 5:33 PM ET

Predictions: 10 of 13 Winners, 2 Perfect, 580 Points   |   Tied for 1052nd

I'm not sure why people are surprised by the height differences between Jung and Knight.
Jung is 6 foot 4, Knight is around 5 foot 8-9.

* Edited at 04.09.2021, 5:33 PM ET *

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DCpredictions
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04.09.2021 | 5:59 PM ET

Predictions: 7 of 13 Winners, 1 Perfect, 375 Points   |   Tied for 2793rd

Stats got him as 5'10 but that looked like a good bit more than 6" difference to me. 
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04.09.2021 | 6:02 PM ET

Predictions: 9 of 12 Winners, 2 Perfect, 565 Points   |   Tied for 1184th

Yeah dude is like 5 foot 8 probably same as twoods 5,7.75-8

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Thewelshguy1998
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04.09.2021 | 6:08 PM ET

Predictions: 9 of 13 Winners, 2 Perfect, 515 Points   |   Tied for 1721st

Yeah I knew it would be quite a big difference as it says knight is 5'10 on here but it looked like he's shorter than that for sure 
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04.09.2021 | 6:10 PM ET

Predictions: 9 of 13 Winners, 2 Perfect, 515 Points   |   Tied for 1721st

Come on Jack shore my fellow welsh guy fighting tomorrow ❗ from the mountains of South Wales , not quite like dagestan tho  
DCpredictions
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04.09.2021 | 6:33 PM ET

Predictions: 7 of 13 Winners, 1 Perfect, 375 Points   |   Tied for 2793rd

I'm considering switching my pick from knight to jung for that but I question the shoes they were wearing. Some people got the thin flip flops others got those thick ass sole reebok's. Maybe I'm reading too much into it idk
HiDefff
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04.09.2021 | 7:00 PM ET

Predictions: 7 of 13 Winners, 3 Perfect, 455 Points   |   Tied for 2250th

No one in the UFC has them Reeboks at weigh ins anymore lol I promise. But I know what you mean and you are correct Jung had some thick soles shoes on but Knight had them thick ass UFC slides on too so idk how much the shoes mean here 

* Edited at 04.09.2021, 7:10 PM ET *

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04.09.2021 | 7:33 PM ET

Predictions: 7 of 11 Winners, 3 Perfect, 425 Points   |   Tied for 2483rd

Marvin "palumbo" Vettori

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04.09.2021 | 9:07 PM ET

Predictions: 9 of 13 Winners, 4 Perfect, 550 Points   |   Tied for 1370th

its not only how tall jung looks is also that knight does not look larger or bigger then Jung.

* Edited at 04.09.2021, 9:09 PM ET *

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04.09.2021 | 10:43 PM ET

Prediction Comments

Predictions: 9 of 13 Winners, 4 Perfect, 550 Points   |   Tied for 1370th

Vettori vs. Holland
Marvin Vettori, DEC
Vettori is just gonna wrestle him for 5 rounds just like Brunson did. If Vettori gets emotional and tries to strike with Holland things aren’t going to end well for Vettori.

Allen vs. Yusuff
Arnold Allen, DEC
These guys both have a bright future in the UFC but I think Allen is a bit better right now.

Alvey vs. Marquez
Julian Marquez, TKO, R1
Alvey sucks but he has heart and will fight til he’s out cold. Marquez either puts him out in round 1 or 2.

Nunes vs. Dern
Nina Nunes, DEC
Leaning Nunes but wouldn’t be shocked if Dern catches Nunes with an armbar.

Perry vs. Rodriguez
Mike Perry, DEC
Mike Perry made weight and it’s looking like he’s taking this fight very seriously this time around. D-Rod is no joke but when Perry is serious and gives his all he is a problem. This fight will go to the judges because both guys are durable.

Miller vs. Solecki
Joe Solecki, DEC
Jim Miller is old now and Solecki is gonna beat him up the whole fight but Miller is tough enough to last all 3 rounds unless he gets submitted which isn’t going to happen.

Holtzman vs. Gamrot
Mateusz Gamrot, DEC
I’m confident with Gamrot. He’s a lot better and is way younger.

Makdessi vs. Bahamondes
Ignacio Bahamondes, TKO, R2
Bahamondes is a future top 10-15 guy and will be able to handle Makdessi very easily here.

De Castro vs. Danho
Yorgan De Castro, TKO, R1
I like Yorgan and I don’t wanna see him get cut by the UFC. This is a set up fight for him and if he lets his hands go he will knock Danho out in round 1.

Shore vs. Azure
Jack Shore, SUB, R2
Azure is gonna tire out and Shore will submit him.

Saldaña vs. Griffin
Luis Saldaña, DEC
Saldana is an impressive prospect.

Jung vs. Knight
Da Un Jung, TKO, R1
This fight is so hard to predict but Jung is so good and I think he knocks Knight out quickly. Knight is good but there are a lot of question marks still.

Kasanganay vs. Palatnikov
Impa Kasanganay, DEC
Kasanganay is a very very good prospect that was unfortunately on the receiving end of a highlight reel kick. Palatnikov had a nice win over Louis Cosce but in my opinion Cosce is a can and I think Palatnikov is too. Impa gets back on track here with a nice win.

* Edited at 04.09.2021, 10:45 PM ET *

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04.10.2021 | 3:06 AM ET

Prediction Comments

Predictions: 5 of 13 Winners, 3 Perfect, 340 Points   |   Tied for 2975th

Vettori vs. Holland
Marvin Vettori, DEC
Not as confendent in Vettori as most people, But At the same time, The only path for victory for Holland is out landing him on the feet, I can't pick that

Allen vs. Yusuff
Sodiq Yusuff, TKO, R1
Both guy really not impress me, But Sodiq fought better guy, And look better. Think Sodiq gonna perfume with a first round KO

Alvey vs. Marquez
Sam Alvey, TKO, R1
Fight I'm most exited for on the card. Meme fight. Hope it really dumb and funny. Marques is really funny guy. Alvey gonna win this. Marques got piece up by Cocunut bums while Alvey going to split with Spann and Draw with Jung


Edit: Cocunut bum was a typo, Keeping it in because it funny

Nunes vs. Dern
Nina Nunes, DEC
Nina Nunes is a really bad matchup for Dern, Probely won't do something stupid to get it the ground as Dern wresling is ****, Think Nunes should punch her alot. Only worry age

Perry vs. Rodriguez
Daniel Rodriguez, DEC
Mike Perry is a D1 wresler now, And forget how to use his hand. Strange time we living in. Nothing will make my happier then to see Perry win this , As he alway fun, But I think his outside the octogon is affecting inside , See D-Rod piecing him up and Perry getting cut

Miller vs. Solecki
Jim Miller, SUB, R1
#shortbus2021 Big fan of Jim. That why im picking him

Holtzman vs. Gamrot
Scott Holtzman, TKO, R2
Why is everyone on Gamrot, He really over rated, Dude fought bums in Poland. Holtzmen fight better guy,Don't act like Nik lentz and Benny are bums, And his wins are good also

Makdessi vs. Bahamondes
Ignacio Bahamondes, TKO, R1
Dude got a dope frout kick KO on the countder series. Makdessi is old

De Castro vs. Danho
Yorgan De Castro, TKO, R1
Danho haven't fought in years, And was **** then. Clear set for De Castro. Should be fun

Shore vs. Azure
Hunter Azure, DEC
Think people are disrespeing Azure, This fight should be way higher up on the card as this is a fight of the night type fight. Azure powerful and is a way better wresler so Shore Jiu Jitsu ain't working.I think Azure gonna piece him up on the feet

Saldaña vs. Griffin
Luis Saldaña, DEC
Griffan lose 3 out of 4 and in his lone win was lossing the whole fight

Jung vs. Knight
Da Un Jung, DEC
Jung just look so much bigger

Kasanganay vs. Palatnikov
Impa Kasanganay, DEC
Don't know because Kasangany went to destantion ****** in his last fight, But he look like a hardworking dude and Palatnikov got easy fight last time

* Edited at 04.10.2021, 4:35 AM ET *

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04.10.2021 | 4:11 AM ET

Prediction Comments

Predictions: 9 of 13 Winners, 2 Perfect, 515 Points   |   Tied for 1721st

Allen vs. Yusuff
Sodiq Yusuff, DEC
****. This one is easily FOTN material. On paper, both guys don't give a step back. Leaning to Yusuff, but not much at all. No way.

Alvey vs. Marquez
Julian Marquez, DEC
This..... Might be it for Sam.......

Nunes vs. Dern
Nina Nunes, DEC
I don't think the odds of Dern using her BJJ are great here. Nina isn't the type to get embarrassed easily.

Perry vs. Rodriguez
Daniel Rodriguez, DEC
Honestly.... Busted nose, crazy leg injury, and he's still here. Wow. That's Mike. But I think D-rod steals this one.

Miller vs. Solecki
Joe Solecki, DEC
10 years. Can't ignore that....... Jim is tough, but age is creeping up on him. Not really sure why Joe is such a favorite. Maybe I'll tune in to find out.

Holtzman vs. Gamrot
Mateusz Gamrot, SUB, R3
Ooooh yes; Gotta give me some Gamrot. Gimme. Strange that people are not giving his submission skills much credit. Maybe we could be in for something special......

Makdessi vs. Bahamondes
Ignacio Bahamondes, DEC
Bahamondes can win this. That weight cut however........... Well let's just hope it was something he can take care of next time.

De Castro vs. Danho
Yorgan De Castro, TKO, R3
This could be a really good show, or a very sloppy affair. ....I'll take both!

Shore vs. Azure
Jack Shore, SUB, R3
So.... With Azure showing signs of fatigue late, and Shore's style of slowly breaking will, that 3rd round sub looks really good...... I hope.

Saldaña vs. Griffin
Luis Saldaña, DEC
Hmmm.... I think Saldana runs away with this one. Griffin has the grappling advantage, but doesn't opt to use it. Poor fight IQ kills. Proper skills pay the bills.

Jung vs. Knight
Da Un Jung, TKO, R2
Well. Jung is a complete mystery to me, and William appears to not really prove himself.... I think Jung can still find that chin.

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04.10.2021 | 4:27 AM ET

Predictions: 5 of 13 Winners, 3 Perfect, 340 Points   |   Tied for 2975th

 Mike Perry is training at MMA master, this changes everything as Mike Perry was A good fighter but training with his Misso made him a bum, I’m expecting the Mike Perry who beat Brazilian cowboy, Felder and Vicente to fight tonight 

* Edited at 04.10.2021, 4:48 AM ET *

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