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Bellator 170: Ortiz vs. Sonnen Discussion Thread
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01.20.2017 | 5:30 PM ET
Predictions: 3 of 3 Winners, 1 Perfect, 215 Points | Tied for 530th
Prelims kick off on Spike.com at 630pm ET followed by a five-bout main card on Spike TV at 9pm.
Seeing as there are 18 fights scheduled (some good prelims for a Bellator show, BTW,) I'm guessing we'll have in the neighborhood of 7-8 postlims.
Enjoy!
* Edited at 01.20.2017, 5:30 PM ET *
"When a game cannot be won, change the game."
- Saturday 01.21.2017 at 09:00 PM ET
- U.S. Broadcast: Spike TV | Prelims: Spike.com
- Promotion: Bellator MMA
- Ownership: Bellator Sport Worldwide, LLC
- Venue: Great Wester Forum
- Location: Inglewood, California, United States
- Enclosure: Cage
- TV Announcers: Sean Grande, Jimmy Smith
- Ring Announcer: Michael C. Williams
- Post-Fight Interviews: Jimmy Smith
- Ticket Revenue (live gate): $562,930
- TV Ratings: 1.37M avg. viewers (1.85M peak)
- MMA Bouts: 18
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| Bout | Info | |
|---|---|---|
| Jacob Rosales defeats Ian Butler via KO/TKO, Punches | 2:45 Round 2 of 3, 7:45 Total Bout Page | |
| Mike Segura defeats Tommy Aaron via KO/TKO, Punches | 1:02 Round 1 of 3 Bout Page | |
| James Barnes defeats Rob Gooch via Submission, Inverted Triangle Choke | 4:36 Round 1 of 3 Bout Page | |
| Curtis Millender defeats Johnny Cisneros via KO/TKO, Punches | 3:48 Round 2 of 3, 8:48 Total Bout Page | |
| Colleen Schneider defeats Chrissie Daniels via Submission, Anaconda Choke | 1:30 Round 1 of 3 Bout Page | |
| Tito Ortiz defeats Chael Sonnen via Submission, Rear Naked Choke | 2:03 Round 1 of 3 Bout Page | |
| Paul Daley defeats Brennan Ward via KO/TKO, Flying Knee | 2:27 Round 1 of 3 Bout Page | |
| Hisaki Kato defeats Ralek Gracie via Decision, Unanimous | 3 Rounds, 15:00 Total Bout Page | |
| Emmanuel Sanchez defeats Georgi Karakhanyan via Decision, Majority | 3 Rounds, 15:00 Total Bout Page | |
| Derek Campos defeats Derek Anderson via Decision, Unanimous | 3 Rounds, 15:00 Total Bout Page | |
| Henry Corrales defeats Cody Bollinger via KO/TKO, Body Punch | 4:28 Round 3 of 3, 14:28 Total Bout Page | |
| Guilherme Bomba defeats Johnny Mercurio via KO/TKO, Punches | 0:41 Round 2 of 3, 5:41 Total Bout Page | |
| Kevin Casey vs. Keith Berry Ends in a Draw, Majority | 3 Rounds, 15:00 Total Bout Page | |
| Alex Soto defeats DeMarcus Brown via Decision, Unanimous | 3 Rounds, 15:00 Total Bout Page | |
| Chinzo Machida defeats Jamar Ocampo via KO/TKO, Punch | 3:48 Round 3 of 3, 13:48 Total Bout Page | |
| Jalin Turner defeats Gabe Green via KO/TKO, Punches | 0:36 Round 1 of 3 Bout Page | |
| Jack May defeats Dave Cryer via KO/TKO, Punches | 0:41 Round 1 of 3 Bout Page | |
| Daniel Rodriguez defeats Christian Gonzalez via KO/TKO, Ground and Pound | 3:55 Round 2 of 3, 8:55 Total Bout Page |
Responses Page 4
01.22.2017 | 12:01 AM ET
Predictions: 9 of 18 Winners, 1 Perfect, 520 Points | Tied for 297th
"3HUNNA"
01.22.2017 | 12:02 AM ET
Predictions: 11 of 18 Winners, 2 Perfect, 665 Points | Tied for 62nd
01.22.2017 | 12:02 AM ET
Predictions: 11 of 18 Winners, 2 Perfect, 740 Points | 27th Place
"This is Shooto!"
01.22.2017 | 12:04 AM ET
Predictions: 9 of 18 Winners, 1 Perfect, 520 Points | Tied for 297th
"3HUNNA"
01.22.2017 | 12:05 AM ET
Predictions: 10 of 18 Winners, 2 Perfect, 635 Points | Tied for 94th
No it was a smart move on Tito's part. Remember when Chael tried to deny that he tapped against Silva.
"I am trained in gorilla warfare" - Stay Ready
01.22.2017 | 12:06 AM ET
turns on stream
Predictions: 10 of 18 Winners, 1 Perfect, 565 Points | Tied for 222nd
* Edited at 01.22.2017, 12:20 AM ET *
"I am the greatest blonde man in the world. I am Tru Viking." - Alexander Gustaffsson / "The world must bow to my glory. I am a God amongst mortals. They must pay me tribute in wine and concubine for my deeds." - Jon Jones "
01.22.2017 | 12:07 AM ET
Predictions: 10 of 18 Winners, 4 Perfect, 730 Points | 34th Place
"I have learned silence from the talkative, toleration from the intolerant, and kindness from the unkind; yet, strange, I am ungrateful to those teachers. -Khalil Gibran "
01.22.2017 | 12:18 AM ET
Predictions: 9 of 18 Winners, 1 Perfect, 520 Points | Tied for 297th
"One does not hunt in order to kill; on the contrary, one kills in order to have hunted. If one were to present the sportsman with the death of the animal as a gift he would refuse it." Jose Ortega y Gasset
01.22.2017 | 6:11 AM ET
Bellator is shady,or I should say Coker is shady,but in my opinion the fight was legit.Chael looked old,out of shape,long layoff,he got out grappled by a much bigger/in shape guy with similar technical skills,at least physically Tito looked phenomenal.Hell,it could have been a work,I just don't think so.I think if it was a work Chael would have let him under his chin with that choke,he turned purple just from the crank/choke,it was there imo.
Plus,Chael has lost A LOT by submission.Out of his 15 losses he's been finished 14 times and 4 of his last 5 fights he got finished and finished easy.I think if there was anything sketchy about that fight it was just Chael taking an easy way out simply for another payday,or his heart just wasn't in it.I also think "clean" Chael (if that's the case) just isn't anywhere near the same fighter.I don't know if it's true,but he said about this fight,it was in his contract if he tests positive for PEDS his whole purse goes to Tito (besides commission $).
Not that this video has anything to do with my point of view,just posting it for people who want to see Chael talk about the fight.
* Edited at 01.22.2017, 6:51 AM ET *
01.22.2017 | 8:52 AM ET
EDIT:: Also, Chael has a lot of money and no need to sell fights, if anyone were in the need to sell a fight it would be Tito.
* Edited at 01.22.2017, 8:54 AM ET *
"Hay lohh you Mike, ay lov you Mike. Hyou say somesing like di fo me, and naw I say you ... I LOV YOU! See you som. Boy." -- Yoel Romero, UFC 205
01.22.2017 | 10:17 AM ET
Predictions: 11 of 18 Winners, 2 Perfect, 665 Points | Tied for 62nd
I knew he would do what he did and right to the Rd.
Tito the bigger guy and can out muscle cheal's double leg (which is his main if not only game. and has a decent enough sub game to sub cheals and his minimal ground game.
In saying that I hope he retires for good as I am sick of him and have been for 20 years
" holy **** did you see that?, baddest ***********er ever, hooooly ****" -Dana White seconds after Silva KO'd Vitor
01.22.2017 | 10:55 AM ET
Predictions: 7 of 18 Winners, 1 Perfect, 445 Points | Tied for 396th
"The only thing predictable about MMA is that it is unpredictable."
01.22.2017 | 11:30 AM ET
Predictions: 9 of 18 Winners, 1 Perfect, 515 Points | Tied for 303rd
"It does not make sense that humans deliberately malfunction. - Upgrade"
01.22.2017 | 12:23 PM ET
Yes, it's believable.
How was Sonnen going to win this fight anyway? With his superior striking? Was he going to take Tito Ortiz down and ground and pound him? Not with normal testosterone levels he wasn't. Chael Sonnen reached his peak by cheating, this is a fact. Now, after what he's done to his body, he's probably got much less than he started with.
"I don't want to have to do this living. I just walk around. I want to be swept off my feet, you know? I want my children to have magical powers. I am prepared for amazing things to happen. I can handle it."
01.22.2017 | 12:30 PM ET
"I don't want to have to do this living. I just walk around. I want to be swept off my feet, you know? I want my children to have magical powers. I am prepared for amazing things to happen. I can handle it."
01.22.2017 | 3:27 PM ET
Predictions: 9 of 18 Winners, 1 Perfect, 515 Points | Tied for 303rd
The thing is you are never going to sell Chael as a world beater or build him to a dominant champion when he is 39 years old. He is a hype master who plays a good heal. There is a chance Chael is so rusty that he forgot everything he knew about wrestling and fighting. It's just odd that Chael a guy who doesn't even sink hooks in when he has his opponents back because he is so position focused, would give up dominant position to chase a low % submission. Then give up his back and not even try to defend an over the chin semi crank.
I'm not saying it's for sure a fix but it is questionable and I'm not the only one who thought so.
"It does not make sense that humans deliberately malfunction. - Upgrade"
01.22.2017 | 4:57 PM ET
"You fight midgets" - Nate Diaz
01.22.2017 | 5:06 PM ET
Predictions: 7 of 18 Winners, 1 Perfect, 460 Points | Tied for 380th
"MMA Fan Since Season 2 Of The Ultimate Fighter"
01.22.2017 | 5:08 PM ET
* Edited at 01.22.2017, 6:18 PM ET *
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