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UFC 180: Werdum vs. Hunt Discussion Thread
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11.14.2014 | 6:15 PM ET
Predictions: 6 of 11 Winners, 0 Perfect, 315 Points | Tied for 770th
UFC Fight Pass prelims kick off at 7pm ET followed by FS1 Prelims at 8pm then the PPV main card at 10pm.
Enjoy!
"When a game cannot be won, change the game."
- Saturday 11.15.2014 at 10:00 PM ET
- U.S. Broadcast: Pay Per View | Prelims: Fox Sports 1
- Name: UFC 180: Werdum vs. Hunt
- Also Known As: The Ultimate Fighter Latin America Season 1 Finale
- Promotion: Ultimate Fighting Championship
- Ownership: Zuffa, LLC
- Venue: Arena Ciudad de Mexico
- Location: Mexico City, Mexico
- Enclosure: Octagon
- TV Announcers: Mike Goldberg, Joe Rogan
- Ring Announcer: Bruce Buffer
- Post-Fight Interviews: Joe Rogan
- Attendance: 21,000
- PPV Buys / Buyrate: 190,000 | TV Ratings: 664,000 avg. viewers (FS1 prelims, 771k peak)
- MMA Bouts: 11
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| Bout | Info | |
|---|---|---|
| Fabrício Werdum defeats Mark Hunt via KO/TKO, Flying Knee and Ground and Pound | 2:27 Round 2 of 5, 7:27 Total Bout Page | |
| Kelvin Gastelum defeats Jake Ellenberger via Submission, Rear Naked Choke | 4:46 Round 1 of 3 Bout Page | |
| Ricardo Lamas defeats Dennis Bermudez via Submission, Guillotine Choke | 3:18 Round 1 of 3 Bout Page | |
| Augusto Montaño defeats Chris Heatherly via KO/TKO, Knees | 4:50 Round 1 of 3 Bout Page | |
| Hector Urbina defeats Edgar Garcia via Submission, Guillotine Choke | 3:38 Round 1 of 3 Bout Page | |
| Yair Rodriguez defeats Leonardo Morales via Decision, Unanimous | 3 Rounds, 15:00 Total Bout Page | |
| Alejandro Perez defeats Jose Alberto Quiñonez via Decision, Unanimous | 3 Rounds, 15:00 Total Bout Page | |
| Jessica Eye defeats Leslie Smith via KO/TKO, Doctor Stoppage (ear) | 1:30 Round 2 of 3, 6:30 Total Bout Page | |
| Gabriel Benítez defeats Humberto Brown Morrison via Submission, Guillotine Choke | 0:30 Round 3 of 3, 10:30 Total Bout Page | |
| Henry Briones defeats Guido Cannetti via Submission, Rear Naked Choke | 1:44 Round 2 of 3, 6:44 Total Bout Page | |
| Marco Beltran defeats Marlon Vera via Decision, Unanimous | 3 Rounds, 15:00 Total Bout Page |
Responses Page 17
11.16.2014 | 1:39 AM ET
Predictions: 4 of 11 Winners, 1 Perfect, 265 Points | Tied for 992nd
"One does not hunt in order to kill; on the contrary, one kills in order to have hunted. If one were to present the sportsman with the death of the animal as a gift he would refuse it." Jose Ortega y Gasset
11.16.2014 | 1:47 AM ET
Predictions: 7 of 11 Winners, 1 Perfect, 415 Points | Tied for 272nd
"Hay lohh you Mike, ay lov you Mike. Hyou say somesing like di fo me, and naw I say you ... I LOV YOU! See you som. Boy." -- Yoel Romero, UFC 205
11.16.2014 | 4:39 AM ET
Predictions: 6 of 11 Winners, 1 Perfect, 340 Points | Tied for 664th
"As swift as wind, as silent as forest, as fierce as fire, as unshakeable as mountain"
11.16.2014 | 9:19 AM ET
Predictions: 6 of 11 Winners, 2 Perfect, 405 Points | Tied for 328th
Jessica Eye looked great....but dam that was nasty.
11.16.2014 | 5:55 PM ET
"If you assume that you have an edge here, or you’re gonna dominate me there…you better think again man, or I’m coming in your backyard and I’m gonna **** you up." - Carlos Condit
11.16.2014 | 6:13 PM ET
Predictions: 6 of 11 Winners, 2 Perfect, 405 Points | Tied for 328th
Welcome aboard BMC
* Edited at 11.16.2014, 6:13 PM ET *
11.16.2014 | 6:19 PM ET
"If you assume that you have an edge here, or you’re gonna dominate me there…you better think again man, or I’m coming in your backyard and I’m gonna **** you up." - Carlos Condit
11.16.2014 | 6:28 PM ET
Predictions: 2 of 4 Winners, 0 Perfect, 100 Points | Tied for 1187th
"Beating people up is a positive thing –Tank Abbott"
11.16.2014 | 6:50 PM ET
Predictions: 6 of 11 Winners, 1 Perfect, 365 Points | Tied for 553rd
11.16.2014 | 8:15 PM ET
Predictions: 6 of 11 Winners, 2 Perfect, 375 Points | Tied for 473rd
Hunt got caught, prior to Hunt getting caught, Werdum looked like the same fighter that lost to Overeem, Arlovski, and JDS. When Werdum faces Cain, Cain is going to make very short work of Werdum. 3 reasons..............
#1. Werdum can't handle the pace that Cain sets. Cain doesn't just have good cardio for a HW, but damn good cardio as a mixed martial artist period. Werdum will not be able to keep with Cain.
#2. Unlike many fighters that Werdum has baited with falling to ground and acting hurt, Cain is far too patient and intelligent to chase Werdum directly to the ground. Case and point, look at what Cain did to Brock Lesnar and Big Nog. Against Lesnar, Cain didn't make the same mistake that Carwin did in the fight prior. Against Big Nog, he didn't make the same mistakes as Tim Sylvia.
#3. Watching what Hunt did to Werdum last night, Cain is a much more athletic and faster fighter than Hunt. You add the strength that Cain has, and I think that Werdum will not be able to hang with Cain anywhere the fight goes.
"Keep it punk rock!!!!"
11.16.2014 | 8:32 PM ET
Predictions: 6 of 11 Winners, 2 Perfect, 405 Points | Tied for 328th
Mind = Blown
lol
11.16.2014 | 10:06 PM ET
Predictions: 6 of 11 Winners, 2 Perfect, 390 Points | Tied for 412th
"30-26 Tim Boetsch"
11.16.2014 | 10:17 PM ET
Predictions: 6 of 11 Winners, 2 Perfect, 390 Points | Tied for 412th
But realistically I doubt he stops the relentless take downs, but even though Cain made JDS his ***** standing and JDS is generally considered a way better striker I don't think he'd beat the balls off of Fabricio quite like that.
"30-26 Tim Boetsch"
11.16.2014 | 11:32 PM ET
Predictions: 6 of 11 Winners, 1 Perfect, 370 Points | Tied for 527th
"The only thing predictable about MMA is that it is unpredictable."
11.16.2014 | 11:33 PM ET
Predictions: 7 of 11 Winners, 2 Perfect, 425 Points | Tied for 210th
"We are all human, it's time to prove it."
11.17.2014 | 12:29 AM ET
Predictions: 7 of 11 Winners, 2 Perfect, 455 Points | Tied for 107th
11.17.2014 | 12:50 AM ET
Predictions: 9 of 11 Winners, 1 Perfect, 520 Points | Tied for 20th with 1 other
the card was better than I expected, the crowd looked happy that's a win for the UFC, well done.
"he is going to the hospital, and im going to the after party, ha ha ha" Nate Diaz
11.17.2014 | 7:19 AM ET
Predictions: 1 of 4 Winners, 0 Perfect, 50 Points | Tied for 1245th
He still has serious flaws against Cain though.
His striking is great against slow and immobile fighters but he abandons any of it once someone pressures him and comes forward. he goes for the takedown or simply puts his head down. Hunts usual gameplan of slowly stalking and then eventually exploding with a leaping left hook folloed by a right straight/overhand shut the striking down of Fabricio outside of a few leg kicks.
His jui jitsu isn't god tier like his fans have you believe either. he couldn't sub a badly gassed Browne and did nothing against Hunt or Overeem in his guard. but he subbed Fedor so that must mean he automatically locks up a sub once it hits the ground.
Cain is going to be in his face constantly, punching it and Werdum will resort to buttscooting. I'd bet the life of my family that Cain absolutely crushes him.
Werdum is pretty much in the same position as JDS, except instead of being the definitive #2 guy, he's the #3 guy.
"People say ‘oh, so you should retire.’ Yeah, you want me to retire so you won’t get knocked out. - Vitor Belfort"
11.17.2014 | 8:15 AM ET
Predictions: 6 of 11 Winners, 2 Perfect, 405 Points | Tied for 328th
I agree with that striking assessment. I have seen Werdum circle, but in the Hunt fight he abandoned everything good about his striking and if he does that with Cain he is in a world of trouble.
As for his BJJ though it is the best in the division. Does he sub everyone he goes to the ground with instantly? Nope. But that is not what true BJJ is about anyway. The biggest strength of his BJJ game is that no one can do anything against him on the ground. He submitted Fedor but didn't submit Browne or Hunt. This isn't because Browne and Hunt are better than Fedor but because they didn't try much against him and just kind of sat there trying to not get submitted. Fedor went on the attack and paid the price. I really wonder how well Cain will do. He is a monster on the ground so it will be interesting.
The key to me will be if Werdum remembers to circle or not. If he doesn't then Cain should walk through him. If he remembers to circle and not brawl with Cain then Werdum gets the advantage. Can't wait.
11.17.2014 | 8:43 AM ET
Predictions: 2 of 4 Winners, 0 Perfect, 100 Points | Tied for 1187th
"Beating people up is a positive thing –Tank Abbott"