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10.27.2019 | 10:06 PM ET

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UFC 246
  • Saturday 01.18.2020 at 10:00 PM ET
  • U.S. Broadcast: Pay Per View | Prelims: ESPN
  • Promotion: Ultimate Fighting Championship
  • Ownership: WME-IMG
  • Venue: T-Mobile Arena
  • Location: Las Vegas, Nevada, United States
  • Enclosure: Octagon
  • TV Announcers: Jon Anik, Joe Rogan, Paul Felder
  • Ring Announcer: Bruce Buffer
  • Post-Fight Interviews: Joe Rogan
  • Ticket Revenue (live gate): $11,089,129
  • Attendance: 19,040
  • PPV Buys / Buyrate: 1,353,429 | TV Ratings: 1.77M avg. viewers (ESPN prelims)
  • MMA Bouts: 11
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Bout   Info
Conor McGregor   defeats   Donald Cerrone   via KO/TKO, Head Kick and Punches   0:40 Round 1 of 5 Bout Page
Holly Holm   defeats   Raquel Pennington   via Decision, Unanimous   3 Rounds, 15:00 Total Bout Page
Aleksei Oleinik   defeats   Maurice Greene   via Submission, Armbar   4:38 Round 2 of 3, 9:38 Total Bout Page
Brian Kelleher   defeats   Ode Osbourne   via Submission, Guillotine Choke   2:49 Round 1 of 3 Bout Page
Diego Ferreira   defeats   Anthony Pettis   via Submission, Rear Naked Choke   1:46 Round 2 of 3, 6:46 Total Bout Page
Roxanne Modafferi   defeats   Maycee Barber   via Decision, Unanimous   3 Rounds, 15:00 Total Bout Page
Sodiq Yusuff   defeats   Andre Fili   via Decision, Unanimous   3 Rounds, 15:00 Total Bout Page
Askar Askarov   defeats   Tim Elliott   via Decision, Unanimous   3 Rounds, 15:00 Total Bout Page
Drew Dober   defeats   Nasrat Haqparast   via KO/TKO, Counter Cross to Ground and Pound   1:10 Round 1 of 3 Bout Page
Aleksa Camur   defeats   Justin Ledet   via Decision, Unanimous   3 Rounds, 15:00 Total Bout Page
Sabina Mazo   defeats   JJ Aldrich   via Decision, Split   3 Rounds, 15:00 Total Bout Page

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12.04.2019 | 1:27 PM ET

Predictions: 3 of 11 Winners, 2 Perfect, 240 Points   |   Tied for 2672nd

That's my point though Lewis sucks that's why he was losing the whole fight. He literally has one big punch. It's like be caught by t woods over hand. It's literally all he throws
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12.04.2019 | 1:31 PM ET

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He only ko's people with his right hand. Take the fat **** down and fights over. 
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12.04.2019 | 8:28 PM ET

Predictions: 5 of 11 Winners, 1 Perfect, 290 Points   |   Tied for 2269th

You could literally change one word in this, remove another, and ti would be a fair summation of Conor Mcgregor.
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12.04.2019 | 10:09 PM ET

Predictions: 3 of 11 Winners, 2 Perfect, 240 Points   |   Tied for 2672nd

Literally fish literally swap the right overhand for a left cross
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12.12.2019 | 12:26 AM ET

Losing to Diaz at 170!

Predictions: 5 of 11 Winners, 3 Perfect, 350 Points   |   Tied for 1694th

Losing to Diaz means you can't be "one of the best", I agree. BUT, that loss Mcgregor had was in an ELEVEN MONTH PERIOD WHERE HE FOUGHT 145, 155, 170!!! Mcgregor was SO MUCH SMALLER than Diaz. Sorry for the caps, but you seem to not comprehend how insane moving up 25 pounds is. Mcgregor went from 145 to 170 in less than a year. Name me a MMA fighter who has ever had success moving up and down that much weight. The dude is one of the best. Not GOAT, but one of the best. 
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12.12.2019 | 2:00 AM ET

Predictions: 5 of 11 Winners, 1 Perfect, 290 Points   |   Tied for 2269th

You've got is arse-backwards; Conor is a natural lightweight suited to fighting at WW. He looked like he escaped from Auschwitz at FW and was ridiculously huge for the Division. He'll never fight at FW again.

Overrated.
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2019.12.12 8:42 PM ET

bout announced

Sabina Mazo vs. JJ Aldrich at 125 lbs (56.7 kg)
2019.12.12 8:42 PM ET

bout announced

Cláudia Gadelha vs. Alexa Grasso at 115 lbs (52.2 kg)
2019.12.12 8:44 PM ET

bout announced

Aleksa Camur vs. Justin Ledet at 205 lbs (93.0 kg)
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12.13.2019 | 2:59 AM ET

Predictions: 5 of 11 Winners, 3 Perfect, 350 Points   |   Tied for 1694th

That's 100% false. Mcgregor is the same size as MANY modern featherweights, including Holloway, Yair, Ortega, Poirer (at the time), Zabit, Moicano, etc etc. In fact, many are taller than Mcgregor. Virtually all modern fighters cut massive amounts. Difference is that Mcgregor moved up. So, trying to denigrate his achievements at FW is moot.  And moving up is not an easy thing to do. Holloway did it and failed miserably. Furthermore, he never missed weight once. 

And, he's "suited" to fight WW??? Lol, have you seen Usman? Khabib is far more suited (having missed weight multiple times). But, unlike Mcgregor (and the majority of fighters), he has never DARED to step outside his safe weight class. Mcgregor is an absolute beast for having fought across THREE WEIGHT CLASSES. And, all in under 11 months.
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12.13.2019 | 3:07 AM ET

Predictions: 5 of 11 Winners, 1 Perfect, 290 Points   |   Tied for 2269th

2-2 from his last 4. Never defended a belt. Not a Great. 

Khabib is a Great. You know, that's the guy who ass****** Mcgregor.


Not complicated. Go beat off to Mcgregor somewhere else. Nobody cares.

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12.13.2019 | 4:56 AM ET

Predictions: 5 of 11 Winners, 3 Perfect, 350 Points   |   Tied for 1694th


Khabib has a chance of being a lightweight GOAT. I'm saying Mcgregor is one of the greats. Very few fighters have reached his level of success and dominance. Of FW's, LW's, he trumps Pettis, Bendo, BJ, Edgar, etc etc. ONE OF THE GREATS. So, you're gonna be pedantic hater then? Never defended a belt? Who cares. That's some Asperger's nitpicking ****. Look at boxing as reference. Did Pacquiao defend his belts? Nope, he won it, and moved up. He beat the greatest featherweight in 13 seconds. He moved up on short notice to take on Diaz - LOST, came back within 6 months and won. A few MONTHS later he embarrassed a respected champ in Alvarez. Completely shut him down like he had never been shut down before (and Alvarez was not washed either. He came back to smash Gaejthe and give Poirier a hell of a fight). Double champ. IE. ONE of the beat to ever do it.
Lol nobody cares? You certainly care enough to keep denying it...although since you apparently live on this forum, maybe not.
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12.13.2019 | 5:00 AM ET

Predictions: 5 of 11 Winners, 3 Perfect, 350 Points   |   Tied for 1694th

PS. "2-2 from his last 4."  That is the dumbest rebuttal ever. So, past achievements are wiped away the moment you lose two fights? Mcgregor haters are legit spastic. Aldo has 3 wins of his last 7 fights. I guess he is no longer a great.
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12.13.2019 | 9:05 AM ET

Predictions: 3 of 11 Winners, 2 Perfect, 240 Points   |   Tied for 2672nd

@jmug sadly people stopped considering Aldo great after Conor beat him just because they didn't wanna admit Conor is great.
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12.13.2019 | 4:53 PM ET

Predictions: 5 of 11 Winners, 1 Perfect, 290 Points   |   Tied for 2269th

@jmug you're not understanding me; what I mean is that nobody cares that you have a boycrush on conor mcgregor in the same way nobody cares that I think he's overrated. Conor is not analogous to Pacquiao, that's ridiculous, and I think you know that--chiefly because Conor got a rematch with Diaz that he didn't earn, but also because Pac never cherry picked anyone and earned everything he got. Nothing about the Diaz fight warranted a rubber match. Even the rematch was close. He got Alvarez by beating Nate Diaz. I.e, he was shoehorned into the title shot. Yes, he beat Alvarez. RDA might have romped him if he'd been given a rematch---which incidentally he was more entitled too because he WAS the champ. I picked Mcgregor against Alvarez and Aldo. In fact the only times I haven't picked him were Diaz 2, and Khabib vs Mcgregor.

You're either oblivious to the fact that UFC shoehorned him into the belt or just don't want to believe it.They'll do it again, too. Both possibilities are bad. I'm going to go with option B because frankly I think you want him to sit on your face.

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12.14.2019 | 1:22 AM ET

Predictions: 5 of 11 Winners, 3 Perfect, 350 Points   |   Tied for 1694th

You're completely changing your argument. Now, Mcgregor is not great because he gets special treatment. You firstly stated Mcgregor was not great because he lost 2 of 4 (something you repeated many times, but can't really back up as making any sense). And, that he is not great because he didn't defend. Again, I brought up Pacquiao to prove that defence does not matter. The NAMES are what matter. He beat everyone decent at FW (except maybe Edgar, who had already lost twice to Aldo. So, a Mcgregor matchup was self-defeating for the UFC). Mcgregor then beat did Aldo. An 'undefeated in the UFC' Aldo. 

As champ, esp a champ who can talk, he gets allowances. That includes being "shoehorned" into title fights up weight classes. And, No. He didn't get Alvarez by beating Diaz. He got Alvarez by being the FW champ. 
End of the day, he did something very few have done in MMA. Something most champs do not want to do (look at Jones, look at GSP during his first run, look at Aldo). He won titles in 2 weight classes.  IE. He did something great. IE. He is a great fighter.


It's pretty clear that you cannot dispute Mcgregor greatness/accomplishments as a fighter. The most you can do is prove is that he gets special treatment. 

PS: Lol, I can see you're trying to annoy me by calling me gay for Mcgregor. But, I'm pretty secure in my sexuality. Give it a rest, what are you 5? 

* Edited at 12.14.2019, 1:38 AM ET *

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12.14.2019 | 2:29 AM ET

Predictions: 3 of 11 Winners, 2 Perfect, 240 Points   |   Tied for 2672nd

I like this guy
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12.14.2019 | 7:52 AM ET

Predictions: 5 of 11 Winners, 3 Perfect, 340 Points   |   Tied for 1808th

Haha!
I love hiw McGregor talk makes people so argumentative. Or passionate maybe, whatever it's all good!
I've stated my opinion on McGregor. Circa 2013-2016 he was a ******* ANIMAL! I've not seen many as driven to succeed as that version of him.
I say version because he is a different guy. Much much different.  It's the age old story of a young fighter reaching the very peak of the fight game and all the riches and adulation that goes with it. He had a crazy amount of both, money and adulation!  Unfortunately most fighters come from poor, working class, ghettos, council estates, barrios, favelas whatever. It's that literal hunger that drives them to train like a madman and fight in the I underwear infront of strangers, sometimes millions!!!! You have to be a bit ******* mad to do that!  It's the combination of being poor, likely uneducated and a little bit crazy that isn't ideal preparation for all of a sudden having millions in the bank. Add to that the cretins money attracts, from sleazeball agents, fake friends and gold digging pieces of ass! It's a combination that 95% ends in tragedy!  Just look at Andy Ruiz for an example of a man not able to stay focused when he finally gained success. 
McGregor is an extreme case.  He was the biggest star in fight sports, even just celebrity culture in general.  You can see the change in him from the man who fought and beat Mendes on 1 working leg and called his shot to mind ******* the Featherweight GOAT, Top 10/15 P4P all time great to a broken man who was destroyed long before thise 13 seconds.  He went from that to an arrogant(I knos he was always ****y but it was more confidence), surrounded by yes men, cheats on his wife who gave him everything, he is definitely a bit racist, he assaults members of public, swans about as if he is abovethe law and now he is "allegedly" a ****** ******!!! I say Allegedly because it's not proven yet and I really hope it is false but it really does not look good. I don't know what people in the US or other countries know about it but if he cannot beat this, pay off this woman and it goes to court he is ******!! I will not say more about that other than it doesn't look good.

This is from an admitted Fan Boy!!! I was so caught up in the hype from his Cage Warriors days to UFC 205 and in my opinion 1 of the best, flawless title wins in UFC history.  To go from that to this is all a bit sad really.  I see no happy ending, in fact I see disaster. He will lose to Cowboy, by Sub(mur mur mur mur mur!!!!) He will have these allegations finally come out in full and it will get ugly

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12.14.2019 | 2:55 PM ET

Predictions: 5 of 11 Winners, 1 Perfect, 290 Points   |   Tied for 2269th

@Jmug I'm not changing my argument, I'm adding to it. They're not mutually exclusive ideas. Both of those things can be true, concomitantly, without any apparent loss of coherence to my ultimate point of Contention which is that Mcgregor is overrated.

For example, it is quite possible that while you may have at some point this week woken up with a stained jock full of hot goo as a result on having had a wet dream of Conor KOing a velociraptor with  a spinning bird kick, there's nothing to stop you from denying that it ever happened.It is perfectly feasible for both events to have transpired in that arc of a story.

I would have thought this was obvious. My mistake.

 Again, I brought up Pacquiao to prove that defence does not matter. The NAMES are what matter. 


I see. So you would make no argument against Matt Sera being a great, then, because he beat GSP? How about Luiz Azeredo, who beat Anderson Silva, with a record of  15-10? How about Jens Pulver who beat BJ Penn, who has a record of 27-19?

If the sole qualifier for greatness is simply having beaten other great 'name' fighters, then there are many greats out there who I would personally describe as...well, bums.

Now, of course you know this kind of reductionism is absurd. When you denote a great, you are defining that person as such based on a selection of qualifiers--criteria. When you argue who and who is not great, you are making a selection of value judgments which you use to qualify a certain standard. 

As do I. Our criteria simply happen to be different, or perhaps they may even be the same leading to different distinctions. You may disagree with my assertion that Mcgregor did not fight the best version of Max Holloway, but you might also agree with the theory that Weidman did not fight the best version of Anderson Silva or Guida did not fight the best version of BJ Penn. Regardless, you essentially agree with the model that when a fighter faces another fighter is as important as who they have beaten, or is more important.

Anyway, I don't especially care if you fan boy out on Mcgregor. I think he's an overrated ****** human being, and we're both just going to have to live with the fact we disagree. I share this planet with people who **** chickens, think they can talk to whales and listen to dubstep, so I'm used to said arrangement by now.


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12.21.2019 | 10:00 AM ET

Predictions: 9 of 11 Winners, 3 Perfect, 580 Points   |   Tied for 23rd with 2 others

What a weak ass ppv. 
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12.21.2019 | 10:29 AM ET

Predictions: 8 of 11 Winners, 5 Perfect, 540 Points   |   Tied for 77th

@SevenLakerSeth

The UFC doesn't care anymore.  They think people will buy their PPVs simply because they're the UFC, when promotions like ONE Championship have better fighters and better fights and can be watched on an app without having to buy a pay-per-view.

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12.21.2019 | 7:29 PM ET

Predictions: 5 of 11 Winners, 3 Perfect, 340 Points   |   Tied for 1808th

Tepid I'm not sure if your a cop or you work for ONE??? Are you a Cop who works for ONE?
ONE is great but they DO NOT have better fighters than the UFC!
They have a handful of guys who'd compete. Personally I have Aung la Nsang, Joshua Pacio and Mighty Mouse in my top 15 rankings of their divisions. Outside of that the top 15 in every single division has at least 10 UFC fighters, Bellator has a few and thats it.
It's ok.tp like One, I love it! I love watching it on Friday mornings for free. But you sound dumb when ylu continue to say they are better than the UFC. And you seem to ignore the shady **** that goes on with them! Wheres the money come from? Where's the proof of the billions of viewers? They have not solved weight cutting and they change results for strange things!!!!
C'mon son, are you a Ccccop, or are you Chatri!!!????

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12.21.2019 | 7:39 PM ET

Predictions: 8 of 11 Winners, 5 Perfect, 540 Points   |   Tied for 77th

@Mikey1903

ONE has a sports-based presentation which ia much better than the UFC entertainment-based presentation.

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