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UFC on ESPN+ 14
  • Saturday 08.10.2019 at 05:00 PM ET
  • U.S. Broadcast: ESPN+
  • Name: UFC on ESPN+ 14: Shevchenko vs. Carmouche 2
  • Also Known As: UFC Fight Night Montevideo
  • Promotion: Ultimate Fighting Championship
  • Ownership: WME-IMG
  • Venue: Antel Arena
  • Location: Montevideo, Uruguay
  • Enclosure: Octagon
  • TV Announcers: Brendan Fitzgerald, Michael Bisping
  • Ring Announcer: Joe Martinez
  • Post-Fight Interviews: Michael Bisping
  • Attendance: 9,225
  • MMA Bouts: 13
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Bout   Info
Valentina Shevchenko   defeats   Liz Carmouche   via Decision, Unanimous   5 Rounds, 25:00 Total Bout Page
Vicente Luque   defeats   Mike Perry   via Decision, Split   3 Rounds, 15:00 Total Bout Page
Eduardo Garagorri   defeats   Humberto Bandenay   via Decision, Unanimous   3 Rounds, 15:00 Total Bout Page
Volkan Oezdemir   defeats   Ilir Latifi   via KO/TKO, Left Hooks   4:31 Round 2 of 3, 9:31 Total Bout Page
Rodolfo Vieira   defeats   Oskar Piechota   via Submission, Arm Triangle Choke   4:26 Round 2 of 3, 9:26 Total Bout Page
Enrique Barzola   defeats   Bobby Moffett   via Decision, Split   3 Rounds, 15:00 Total Bout Page
Gilbert Burns   defeats   Alexey Kunchenko   via Decision, Unanimous   3 Rounds, 15:00 Total Bout Page
Ciryl Gane   defeats   Raphael Pessoa   via Submission, Arm Triangle Choke   4:12 Round 1 of 3 Bout Page
Marina Rodriguez   defeats   Tecia Torres   via Decision, Unanimous   3 Rounds, 15:00 Total Bout Page
Rogério Bontorin   defeats   Raulian Paiva   via KO/TKO, Doctor Stoppage (cut)   2:56 Round 1 of 3 Bout Page
Chris Gutierrez   defeats   Geraldo de Freitas   via Decision, Split   3 Rounds, 15:00 Total Bout Page
Alex da Silva   defeats   Rodrigo Vargas   via Decision, Unanimous   3 Rounds, 15:00 Total Bout Page
Veronica Hardy   defeats   Polyana Viana   via Submission, Armbar   1:09 Round 1 of 3 Bout Page

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loudenSwain
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08.08.2019 | 7:27 PM ET

Predictions: 8 of 13 Winners, 1 Perfect, 455 Points   |   Tied for 1530th

Yea. That’s a tough one to call imo. If Luque decides he’s gonna brawl that day he can easily get starched. If he fights smart, I think it’s his fight to lose. With him, who knows. 

* Edited at 08.08.2019, 7:27 PM ET *

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08.08.2019 | 8:03 PM ET

Predictions: 7 of 13 Winners, 4 Perfect, 490 Points   |   Tied for 1396th

@fish @swain I think he's at the Ronda Rousey point in his life. He's bought into the hype that he can stand with anyone and he's about to get a reality check.
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08.08.2019 | 8:21 PM ET

Prediction Comments

Predictions: 3 of 5 Winners, 0 Perfect, 180 Points   |   Tied for 2030th

Shevchenko vs. Carmouche II
Valentina Shevchenko, TKO, R3
I wouldnt complain about a classic womans mma vet like carmouche get another win on shevchenko but i think bullet takes it with a late-ish tko stoppage.

Luque vs. Perry
Mike Perry, TKO, R1
hoping for perry, i hated him, then he grew on me. I doubt he'll be champ but damn it ill tune in every time he fights!

Oezdemir vs. Latifi
Volkan Oezdemir, TKO, R1
no time comes back fast this time. I like latifi, my money is on oezdemir this time.

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08.08.2019 | 10:38 PM ET

Predictions: 11 of 13 Winners, 5 Perfect, 715 Points   |   Tied for 71st




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08.08.2019 | 11:31 PM ET

Predictions: 9 of 13 Winners, 3 Perfect, 590 Points   |   Tied for 683rd

I swear that the wankers have just found tapolology with being ******* about people picks

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08.09.2019 | 4:47 AM ET

Predictions: 10 of 11 Winners, 5 Perfect, 680 Points   |   Tied for 176th

Chris Gutierrez is another great underdog pick to place money on. 💰🦈

I cap him to win at @ 60% possibility +110 

I believe he can stop the takedowns and pick apart Freitas. Lets get it!!!  🇺🇸

* Edited at 08.09.2019, 4:50 AM ET *

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08.09.2019 | 7:01 AM ET

Predictions: 9 of 13 Winners, 2 Perfect, 530 Points   |   Tied for 1100th

Haha, this thread has been keeping me entertained all morning at work! Cheers guys!!!  I hear I've got a defender in @freemoney.  Cheers brotha but I'm OK, i don't need defending.  I guess that's what you'd call a BETA move! 😉
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I'd cap the good guy probability at about 85% 
The Wank probability at around 13%
And the BETA at 2%

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08.09.2019 | 9:29 AM ET

Predictions: 10 of 13 Winners, 4 Perfect, 655 Points   |   Tied for 247th

Haaahaha Mikey... Unfortunately, all the recent UFC threads have been trainwreck's of entertainment. So you have plenty of reading material to keep you entertained. Although the Covington/Lawler thread, got pretty badd that I believe Gregory had to edit the thread. Have fun with your entertaining reading material while on the clock getting paid. Best kinda work

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08.09.2019 | 9:48 AM ET

Predictions: 9 of 13 Winners, 2 Perfect, 545 Points   |   Tied for 1022nd

Polyana Viana is a good pick for an underdog just based of what she did to that mugger lol. Rather surprised most bookies have Macedo as the favourite in this one as we really haven't seen anything from her since she made it in to the UFC.
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08.09.2019 | 10:18 AM ET

Predictions: 10 of 11 Winners, 5 Perfect, 680 Points   |   Tied for 176th


This is a good card to make bank and then carry that profit to next weekends UFC 241 CARD!

Lets get it beta nerds! 🦈

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08.09.2019 | 10:19 AM ET

Predictions: 10 of 11 Winners, 5 Perfect, 680 Points   |   Tied for 176th

Viana should win. But its a little risky since her stand up is garbage. But can’t pull the trigger on Macedo, her IQ Is the worst of the worst.

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2019.08.09 10:20 AM ET

weigh-in result

Polyana Viana: 126.0 lbs (57.2 kgs)
2019.08.09 10:20 AM ET

weigh-in result

Veronica Hardy: 125.5 lbs (56.9 kgs)
2019.08.09 10:21 AM ET

weigh-in result

Gilbert Burns: 171.0 lbs (77.6 kgs)
2019.08.09 10:21 AM ET

weigh-in result

Alexey Kunchenko: 170.0 lbs (77.1 kgs)
2019.08.09 10:22 AM ET

weigh-in result

Alex da Silva: 155.5 lbs (70.5 kgs)
2019.08.09 10:22 AM ET

weigh-in result

Rodrigo Vargas: 156.0 lbs (70.8 kgs)
2019.08.09 10:22 AM ET

weigh-in result

Geraldo de Freitas: 135.0 lbs (61.2 kgs)
2019.08.09 10:22 AM ET

weigh-in result

Chris Gutierrez: 136.0 lbs (61.7 kgs)
2019.08.09 10:23 AM ET

weigh-in result

Raulian Paiva: 125.5 lbs (56.9 kgs)
2019.08.09 10:23 AM ET

weigh-in result

Rogério Bontorin: 125.5 lbs (56.9 kgs)
2019.08.09 10:23 AM ET

weigh-in result

Tecia Torres: 115.0 lbs (52.2 kgs)
2019.08.09 10:23 AM ET

weigh-in result

Marina Rodriguez: 115.5 lbs (52.4 kgs)
2019.08.09 10:24 AM ET

weigh-in result

Ciryl Gane: 241.0 lbs (109.3 kgs)
2019.08.09 10:24 AM ET

weigh-in result

Raphael Pessoa: 261.0 lbs (118.4 kgs)
2019.08.09 10:24 AM ET

weigh-in result

Enrique Barzola: 145.0 lbs (65.8 kgs)
2019.08.09 10:24 AM ET

weigh-in result

Bobby Moffett: 146.0 lbs (66.2 kgs)
2019.08.09 10:25 AM ET

weigh-in result

Oskar Piechota: 185.0 lbs (83.9 kgs)
2019.08.09 10:25 AM ET

weigh-in result

Rodolfo Vieira: 185.5 lbs (84.1 kgs)
2019.08.09 10:25 AM ET

weigh-in result

Volkan Oezdemir: 205.5 lbs (93.2 kgs)
2019.08.09 10:25 AM ET

weigh-in result

Ilir Latifi: 204.5 lbs (92.8 kgs)
2019.08.09 10:25 AM ET

weigh-in result

Humberto Bandenay: 146.0 lbs (66.2 kgs)
2019.08.09 10:25 AM ET

weigh-in result

Eduardo Garagorri: 145.5 lbs (66.0 kgs)
2019.08.09 10:26 AM ET

weigh-in result

Vicente Luque: 171.0 lbs (77.6 kgs)
2019.08.09 10:26 AM ET

weigh-in result

Mike Perry: 170.5 lbs (77.3 kgs)
2019.08.09 10:26 AM ET

weigh-in result

Valentina Shevchenko: 124.5 lbs (56.5 kgs)
2019.08.09 10:26 AM ET

weigh-in result

Liz Carmouche: 125.0 lbs (56.7 kgs)
Mikey1903
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08.09.2019 | 10:33 AM ET

Predictions: 9 of 13 Winners, 2 Perfect, 530 Points   |   Tied for 1100th


Hey Colby Jr or would you rather go by Filth?  I bet people always ask you this coz you come across as such a cool, popular intellectual guy who gets all the girls..  Can you teach me how to be as cool and smart at capping fights as you or am I too much of a BETA virgin nerd?  
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08.09.2019 | 10:54 AM ET

Predictions: 10 of 11 Winners, 5 Perfect, 680 Points   |   Tied for 176th

Bobby Moffett is another good underdog bet.

He has a longer reach, better striking, and great submissions. Barzola likes to go for the takedowns and I feel he can be in lots of trouble if Moffett stuffs his takedown and is on top.

I cap Moffett to win at @ 62% win probability +105

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08.09.2019 | 10:55 AM ET

Predictions: 10 of 11 Winners, 5 Perfect, 680 Points   |   Tied for 176th

I see this card being great for mma bettors! Lets get this money nerds! 

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* Edited at 08.09.2019, 10:56 AM ET *

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JohnVolcan
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08.09.2019 | 11:16 AM ET

Excuse me to interrupt, but

Predictions: 11 of 13 Winners, 4 Perfect, 705 Points   |   Tied for 90th

Gané is not flat footed ! I don't know which fight(s) you watched, but as a French fan I've been Following his kickboxing and MMA career, and the guy is known for his light footwork and fluid movement. I'm picking him by KO but I certainly agree it's not a 70/30 pick, because the questions with a 3-0 reccord remains: can he keep the fight standing? But if he does, I insist, he is not flat footed and will dance circles around Pessoa.

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Mikey1903
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08.09.2019 | 11:40 AM ET

Predictions: 9 of 13 Winners, 2 Perfect, 530 Points   |   Tied for 1100th

@johnvolcan  I 100% agree with you about Gane footwork.  If anything I'm worried if he can keep up that footwork if the fight goes late into the 2nd or the 3rd. He's only had 3 MMA fights which he ended  quick and devastating fashion!  But as you stated he has many years of Muay Thai & Kickboxing experience so I think he'll be fine if the fight does get out the 1st.  I really think Gane can be a challenger soon at Heavyweight, I have high hopes for him!  I expect him to leave a trail of destruction on his way to a title shot.  Similar to how Ngannou rose through the ranks.  I imagine a fight between Gane & Ngannou would be amazing but I know they trained together at MMAFactory in Paris so I'm not sure if they would fight?  

1st things 1st he needs to get his debut out the way before he can think about titles!  But he's the best 3 fight fighter I've seen probably since Cain Velasquez 10 years ago.  Obviously very different styles I just mean for being so good with so few fights!

Heavyweight might get real interesting soon with Jairzinho too, they signed Iranian monster wrestler Alikbhari! Hopefully they sign my boy Denis Goltsov and Jonny Walker has said he plans on moving up eventually.  Imagine the fights between those guys!

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08.09.2019 | 6:53 PM ET

Predictions: 10 of 13 Winners, 3 Perfect, 605 Points   |   Tied for 562nd

Being 'bouncy' isn't the same as having good footwork IMO. I know what you both mean though, he's quick for a heavy and his distance management and his ability to move fast over space is  impressive. He could be a big deal, but I'll need to see him against someone like Blaydes before I can really get behind him.

Pretty confident he's gonna get the stoppage tomorrow though, all that said.
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lldowntoearthll
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08.09.2019 | 7:01 PM ET

Prediction Comments

Predictions: 7 of 13 Winners, 2 Perfect, 430 Points   |   Tied for 1650th

Shevchenko vs. Carmouche II
Valentina Shevchenko, TKO, R3
hope liz can be competitive, but i think it's unlikely at this point in their careers.

Luque vs. Perry
Vicente Luque, SUB, R1
avoid the brawl and it's all luque.

Bandenay vs. Garagorri
Luiz Eduardo Garagorri, DEC
weird humberto is this high on the card. think he's there just to sell tickets before losing.

Oezdemir vs. Latifi
Ilir Latifi, TKO, R1
if latifi's tank can hold out, he should win this wherever.

Piechota vs. Vieira
Rodolfo Vieira, SUB, R1
coming off sub and going against high level bjj player. could be bad, could be outclassing.

Barzola vs. Moffett
Bobby Moffett, SUB, R2
just feel like bobby can play spoiler here.

Burns vs. Kunchenko
Gilbert Burns, DEC
burns isn't gonna look as strong at ww, but i still think he has the skillset to give almost everyone trouble.

Gané vs. Pessoa
Ciryl Gané, TKO, R1
i'm lettin the community favor sway me on this one.

Torres vs. Rodriguez
Tecia Torres, DEC
almost guaranteed decision i think. and that favors tecia is most matchups.

Paiva vs. Bontorin
Rogério Bontorin, DEC
bibulatov win has me a little hyped on this guy.

de Freitas vs. Gutierrez
Geraldo de Freitas, DEC
range?

da Silva vs. Vargas
Rodrigo Vargas, TKO, R2
hard to get a read on this card, just making guesses.

Viana vs. Macedo
Polyana Viana, DEC
viana probably has a higher ceiling.

BradThom717
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08.09.2019 | 10:20 PM ET

Predictions: 10 of 13 Winners, 4 Perfect, 655 Points   |   Tied for 247th

When will these newbies learn that, OF COURSE their pick percentage is better? It'll always be better the least amount of fights you pick. Pick 3 winners outta 4, and bragging about having 75% pick percentage compared to someone who's picked 1,000's and 1,000's of fights... Let's see where your percentage ends up when you start picking OTHER THAN UFC events and 1,500 picks down the road, see if you're still bragging.

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08.10.2019 | 3:21 AM ET

Predictions: 10 of 11 Winners, 5 Perfect, 680 Points   |   Tied for 176th

Fight night tomorrow nerds! Let’s get this money bros! 💰🦈

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