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Bellator 149: Shamrock vs. Gracie 3 Discussion Thread
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02.18.2016 | 7:16 PM ET
Predictions: 1 of 5 Winners, 0 Perfect, 65 Points | Tied for 640th
We're in for a weird one.
Prelims are online at some point in space-time. Main card airs live on Spike TV at 9pm ET.
Enjoy!
"When a game cannot be won, change the game."
- Friday 02.19.2016 at 09:00 PM ET
- U.S. Broadcast: Spike TV | Prelims: Spike.com
- Name: Bellator 149: Shamrock vs. Gracie 3
- Also Known As: Kimbo vs. Dada 5000
- Promotion: Bellator MMA
- Ownership: Bellator Sport Worldwide, LLC
- Venue: Toyota Center
- Location: Houston, Texas, United States
- Enclosure: Cage
- TV Announcers: Sean Grande, Jimmy Smith
- Ring Announcer: Michael C. Williams
- Post-Fight Interviews: Jimmy Smith
- TV Ratings: 1.96M avg. viewers (2.7M peak)
- MMA Bouts: 17
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| Bout | Info | |
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| Mana Martinez defeats Casey Jones via KO/TKO, Punches | 1:21 Round 1 of 3 Bout Page | |
| Chris Soliz defeats Alex Macedo via Decision, Unanimous | 3 Rounds, 9:00 Total Bout Page | |
| Shawn Solis defeats Jonathan Davis via Decision, Unanimous | 3 Rounds, 9:00 Total Bout Page | |
| Ricardo Deluque defeats Hunter Scott-Gregg via Submission, Rear Naked Choke | Round 1 of 3 Bout Page | |
| Royce Gracie defeats Ken Shamrock via KO/TKO, Knee and Punches | 2:22 Round 1 of 3 Bout Page | |
| Kimbo Slice vs. Dada 5000 Ends in a No Contest, Punches | 1:32 Round 3 of 3, 11:32 Total Bout Page | |
| Derek Campos defeats Melvin Guillard via KO/TKO, Punches | 0:32 Round 2 of 3, 5:32 Total Bout Page | |
| Linton Vassell defeats Emanuel Newton via Decision, Unanimous | 3 Rounds, 15:00 Total Bout Page | |
| Emmanuel Sanchez defeats Daniel Pineda via Decision, Split | 3 Rounds, 15:00 Total Bout Page | |
| Ike Villanueva defeats Richard Knepp via KO/TKO, Punches | 0:42 Round 1 of 3 Bout Page | |
| Jeremy Mahon defeats Davis Sylvester via KO/TKO, Ground and Pound | 4:22 Round 2 of 3, 9:22 Total Bout Page | |
| Adrian Yanez defeats Ryan Hollis via Decision, Unanimous | 3 Rounds, 15:00 Total Bout Page | |
| Jason Langellier defeats Anthony Ivy via Submission, Anaconda Choke | 2:09 Round 1 of 3 Bout Page | |
| Justin Wren defeats Juan Torres via Decision, Unanimous | 3 Rounds, 15:00 Total Bout Page | |
| Mike Trinh defeats Angel Zamora via Submission, Armbar | 3:49 Round 1 of 3 Bout Page | |
| Clovis Hancock defeats Ruben Esparza via Submission, Rear Naked Choke | 1:26 Round 3 of 3, 11:26 Total Bout Page | |
| Manny Lozoya defeats Jacob Norsworthy via Submission, Guillotine Choke | 2:33 Round 1 of 3 Bout Page |
Responses Page 14
02.21.2016 | 9:50 AM ET
Predictions: 8 of 17 Winners, 4 Perfect, 605 Points | Tied for 251st
"The only thing predictable about MMA is that it is unpredictable."
02.21.2016 | 10:13 AM ET
Predictions: 10 of 17 Winners, 2 Perfect, 650 Points | Tied for 174th
Also, people need to stop acting like no good came outta the card. Campos knocked out Guillard and is now a player again at lightweight, Sanchez is probably 2 fights away from a title shot. The card overall was fine. But the ratings will murder, and they will end up peaking during main and co-main.
This will force Bellator to hold about 3 shows like this a year. The people *****ing should tune-in to every Bellator show. Show them you want the real cards if you're gonna complain about these. By only watching the card featuring Kimbo Slice and Dada 5000, of course you're gonna make Bellator do it again.
And, shocker, you people complaining will continue to only watch those cards, be disappointed with the result, and complain about it afterwards. People are talking like Bellator tried to convince the world that the main and co-main were legit MMA. No. The opening three fights were treated like legit, important MMA fights. The co-main was literally booked as a King of the Streets fight and they made it no secret that Gracie/Shamrock III was just a fun fight between two legend who last met like 25 years ago. Relax. Everyone knew what they were getting into with this card, and they got exactly what was advertised.
"Why are you booing me? I am the GOAT. **** you." - Patricio "Pitbull" Freire
02.21.2016 | 1:22 PM ET
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Predictions: 8 of 17 Winners, 4 Perfect, 580 Points | Tied for 285th
"I am the greatest blonde man in the world. I am Tru Viking." - Alexander Gustaffsson / "The world must bow to my glory. I am a God amongst mortals. They must pay me tribute in wine and concubine for my deeds." - Jon Jones "
02.21.2016 | 5:10 PM ET
Predictions: 8 of 17 Winners, 4 Perfect, 580 Points | Tied for 285th
Campos knocking out a guy who is 3-8 in his last 11 who mentally checked out years ago doesn't really make him a player again. It just confirms what most of us suspected and that's Guillard is done.
Those of us who watch every card will continue to watch every card because we like MMA. The trick is getting those extra million people who watched this card to maybe consider tuning into the next one. Nothing anybody saw that night is going to make anybody say maybe I should watch the next show. Because this was the type of show Bellator choses to put their marketing dollar behind.
"It does not make sense that humans deliberately malfunction. - Upgrade"
02.22.2016 | 4:05 PM ET
Predictions: 10 of 17 Winners, 2 Perfect, 650 Points | Tied for 174th
"Why do they book freakshows?!?!"
This is why.
"Why are you booing me? I am the GOAT. **** you." - Patricio "Pitbull" Freire
02.22.2016 | 4:08 PM ET
02.22.2016 | 4:13 PM ET
Predictions: 1 of 5 Winners, 0 Perfect, 65 Points | Tied for 640th
1. Bellator 149 - 1.96M
2. Bellator 138 - 1.58M
3. Bellator 131 - 1.24M
4. Bellator 134 - 872k
5. Bellator 145 - 814k
Top 2 shows featured both Kimbo Slice and Ken Shamrock. No. 3 featured Tito vs. Bonnar. No. 4-5 featured only legitimate fights.
As tacos said, this is why they do it. Doesn't mean I have to like it or respect it.
"When a game cannot be won, change the game."
02.22.2016 | 6:36 PM ET
Predictions: 10 of 17 Winners, 2 Perfect, 650 Points | Tied for 174th
That average broke Bellator's previous PEAK rating. ******* insanity.
* Edited at 02.22.2016, 6:41 PM ET *
"Why are you booing me? I am the GOAT. **** you." - Patricio "Pitbull" Freire
02.22.2016 | 6:55 PM ET
Predictions: 10 of 17 Winners, 3 Perfect, 670 Points | Tied for 142nd
"I've been blessed with many things in this life: an arm like a damn rocket, a **** like a burmese python, and the mind of a ******* scientist."
02.23.2016 | 7:42 AM ET
Predictions: 8 of 17 Winners, 4 Perfect, 605 Points | Tied for 251st
"The only thing predictable about MMA is that it is unpredictable."
02.23.2016 | 11:09 AM ET
Predictions: 8 of 17 Winners, 4 Perfect, 580 Points | Tied for 285th
"It does not make sense that humans deliberately malfunction. - Upgrade"
02.23.2016 | 1:23 PM ET
you're part of the problem
Predictions: 0 of 0 Winners, 0 Perfect, 0 Points | Tied for 686th
WATCH the shows with Bellator grown stars and hungry young talent. Ratings drive what is put out there. Remember when it was pure sport under Bjorn? You **** on it then too. Don't say these blanket statements when you're not supporting the elite fighters they have.
also Chandler is the Co-Main of the next tent pole event! And has been on 2 tent poles prior. The last tentpole was headlined by Straus-Pitbull 3 so idk *** you're talking about.
"I'll fight any man; Any animal. If Jesus were here; I'd fight him too.- Mike Tyson; Downvote me if you want this ****"
02.23.2016 | 2:29 PM ET
Predictions: 10 of 17 Winners, 2 Perfect, 650 Points | Tied for 174th
"Why are you booing me? I am the GOAT. **** you." - Patricio "Pitbull" Freire
02.23.2016 | 2:34 PM ET
Predictions: 8 of 17 Winners, 4 Perfect, 580 Points | Tied for 285th
What the bigger problem is people like you who see Bellator through rose colored glasses like it's all sunshine and roses and can do no wrong. When people applaud ******y like this event it increases the likelihood of a more events like it. I wish Strauss vs Pitbull would have broken a million viewers, I wish Will Brooks would be offered the respect he deserves. Bellator has had three shows in the last 3 years that have broken a million viewers Tito vs Bonnar, Kimbo vs Shamrock, and this one is see a pattern.
"It does not make sense that humans deliberately malfunction. - Upgrade"
02.23.2016 | 6:19 PM ET
i don't view bellator through rose colored glasses. they can certainly do wrong and i acknowledge
Predictions: 0 of 0 Winners, 0 Perfect, 0 Points | Tied for 686th
Pitbull vs Straus 2 title fight at Bellator 132 averaged 1.1 Mil and peaked at 1.2 million.
Liam Mcgeary vs Newton averaged 1.1 Mil and peaked at 1.2 Million as well.
Liam has headlined 2 tent pole events, Chandler has been on both st. louis tent pole events (as well as the tito-bonnar card) and is scheduled to co-main another. Brooks has been on the tito-bonnar card, co-mained Bellator 145. Koreshkov is headlining Bellator 153 vs Bendo.
They will do "fun fights" and "freakshow fights" here and there but it's not what they're all about. Watch the Elite talent and that's what they'll show. 90% of the cards are all Bellator talent.
"I'll fight any man; Any animal. If Jesus were here; I'd fight him too.- Mike Tyson; Downvote me if you want this ****"
02.24.2016 | 8:08 AM ET
Predictions: 8 of 17 Winners, 4 Perfect, 605 Points | Tied for 251st
They will not hit 2.7 again on a card without Kimbo.
"The only thing predictable about MMA is that it is unpredictable."
02.25.2016 | 1:30 AM ET
Predictions: 8 of 17 Winners, 4 Perfect, 580 Points | Tied for 285th
"When Conor fought Cowboy, he looked like a lion. When he fights stronger opponents, he looks like a scared chicken." - Khabib
02.25.2016 | 7:07 AM ET
Predictions: 8 of 17 Winners, 4 Perfect, 605 Points | Tied for 251st
"The only thing predictable about MMA is that it is unpredictable."