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Bellator 149: Shamrock vs. Gracie 3 Discussion Thread

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skelliher
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02.18.2016 | 7:16 PM ET

Predictions: 1 of 5 Winners, 0 Perfect, 65 Points   |   Tied for 640th

The fighters are weighed in and Melvin Guillard missed the mark again ... but he says it wasn't his fault, so there's that. 

We're in for a weird one. 

Prelims are online at some point in space-time. Main card airs live on Spike TV at 9pm ET. 

Enjoy!

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Bellator 149
  • Friday 02.19.2016 at 09:00 PM ET
  • U.S. Broadcast: Spike TV | Prelims: Spike.com
  • Name: Bellator 149: Shamrock vs. Gracie 3
  • Also Known As: Kimbo vs. Dada 5000
  • Promotion: Bellator MMA
  • Ownership: Bellator Sport Worldwide, LLC
  • Venue: Toyota Center
  • Location: Houston, Texas, United States
  • Enclosure: Cage
  • TV Announcers: Sean Grande, Jimmy Smith
  • Ring Announcer: Michael C. Williams
  • Post-Fight Interviews: Jimmy Smith
  • TV Ratings: 1.96M avg. viewers (2.7M peak)
  • MMA Bouts: 17
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Bout   Info
Mana Martinez   defeats   Casey Jones   via KO/TKO, Punches   1:21 Round 1 of 3 Bout Page
Chris Soliz   defeats   Alex Macedo   via Decision, Unanimous   3 Rounds, 9:00 Total Bout Page
Shawn Solis   defeats   Jonathan Davis   via Decision, Unanimous   3 Rounds, 9:00 Total Bout Page
Ricardo Deluque   defeats   Hunter Scott-Gregg   via Submission, Rear Naked Choke   Round 1 of 3 Bout Page
Royce Gracie   defeats   Ken Shamrock   via KO/TKO, Knee and Punches   2:22 Round 1 of 3 Bout Page
Kimbo Slice   vs.   Dada 5000   Ends in a No Contest, Punches   1:32 Round 3 of 3, 11:32 Total Bout Page
Derek Campos   defeats   Melvin Guillard   via KO/TKO, Punches   0:32 Round 2 of 3, 5:32 Total Bout Page
Linton Vassell   defeats   Emanuel Newton   via Decision, Unanimous   3 Rounds, 15:00 Total Bout Page
Emmanuel Sanchez   defeats   Daniel Pineda   via Decision, Split   3 Rounds, 15:00 Total Bout Page
Ike Villanueva   defeats   Richard Knepp   via KO/TKO, Punches   0:42 Round 1 of 3 Bout Page
Jeremy Mahon   defeats   Davis Sylvester   via KO/TKO, Ground and Pound   4:22 Round 2 of 3, 9:22 Total Bout Page
Adrian Yanez   defeats   Ryan Hollis   via Decision, Unanimous   3 Rounds, 15:00 Total Bout Page
Jason Langellier   defeats   Anthony Ivy   via Submission, Anaconda Choke   2:09 Round 1 of 3 Bout Page
Justin Wren   defeats   Juan Torres   via Decision, Unanimous   3 Rounds, 15:00 Total Bout Page
Mike Trinh   defeats   Angel Zamora   via Submission, Armbar   3:49 Round 1 of 3 Bout Page
Clovis Hancock   defeats   Ruben Esparza   via Submission, Rear Naked Choke   1:26 Round 3 of 3, 11:26 Total Bout Page
Manny Lozoya   defeats   Jacob Norsworthy   via Submission, Guillotine Choke   2:33 Round 1 of 3 Bout Page

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WastelandWanderer
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02.20.2016 | 1:57 AM ET

Predictions: 8 of 17 Winners, 4 Perfect, 580 Points   |   Tied for 285th

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Kinsalsa
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02.20.2016 | 1:57 AM ET

The fight result in the main event should be overturned. The low blow impacted directly in the result of the fight. The replay showed that the second knee didn´t connect in Ken´s head, Ken went down from the groin shot. Either way Ken might wanna consider retirement.

* Edited at 02.20.2016, 2:09 AM ET *

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02.20.2016 | 2:00 AM ET

Predictions: 10 of 17 Winners, 3 Perfect, 655 Points   |   Tied for 168th




Seems like the UFC is giving its opinion of Bellator 149 in a not so subtle way.

"..."

rappinpapsoda
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02.20.2016 | 2:12 AM ET

Predictions: 8 of 17 Winners, 4 Perfect, 605 Points   |   Tied for 251st

Wow, how self-important he thinks he is.

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Bestscp68
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02.20.2016 | 3:19 AM ET

Predictions: 9 of 17 Winners, 4 Perfect, 620 Points   |   Tied for 224th


Another poor result for me!!!

Bellator is my nightmare, frustration and a certain feeling of What the hell is happening?

Good luck everyone.

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mikeyg
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02.20.2016 | 6:08 AM ET

Predictions: 7 of 9 Winners, 3 Perfect, 480 Points   |   Tied for 394th

Didn't get a chance to see Kimbo's fight earlier but out of morbid curiosity I checked out the train-wreck. Holy **** was that a bad fight, it was comically bad, everything about it was horrible. I don't think I've ever seen a Standing TKO by Exhaustion while falling and I don't ever expect to again. 

Hang it up Kimbo, not a good luck when Ken Shamrock had you in the mount and Dada 5000 gave you a embarrassingly tough fight. Matter of fact, everyone from co and main please retire. I feel like this was North America's version of a freak show card (co and main event only).

* Edited at 02.20.2016, 6:09 AM ET *

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02.20.2016 | 6:36 AM ET

Predictions: 3 of 4 Winners, 0 Perfect, 165 Points   |   Tied for 560th

I dont follow bellator, so i dont really know the roster. but where does 2 wins in main/co-main events put Kimbo? is he in danger of having to fight someone whos actually good at some point in the near future?

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rappinpapsoda
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02.20.2016 | 8:16 AM ET

Predictions: 8 of 17 Winners, 4 Perfect, 605 Points   |   Tied for 251st

I won't even surprised if he is done fighting.

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Kinsalsa
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02.20.2016 | 10:57 AM ET

Kimbo should fight Justin Wren next.

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02.20.2016 | 3:05 PM ET

First Bellator I've watched in a long time, possibly the last ever.  I don't know why I even watched.  Bellator gets some viacom money and this is how they spend it?  

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02.20.2016 | 3:21 PM ET

Shamrock-Gracie III: The Fight That Didn't Go Quite Right

can't wait for the rematch

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02.20.2016 | 3:42 PM ET

Predictions: 8 of 17 Winners, 4 Perfect, 580 Points   |   Tied for 285th

The Dada5000 v Kimbo was an embarrassment to Bellator and MMA in general. Regardless of the short term ratings the long term damage to Bellator's reputation will be hard to repair. People argued oh this was just a fun fight but it clearly wasn't. It was good for a laugh at how atrocious their cardio was and the fact he gained full mount on multiple occasions and as they flopped around like dying fish in the "scramble." If these fights become a habit it goes from this fight is a joke to Bellator is a joke. 

* Edited at 02.20.2016, 4:22 PM ET *

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02.20.2016 | 3:54 PM ET

Predictions: 8 of 17 Winners, 4 Perfect, 580 Points   |   Tied for 285th

@Kinsalsa in the grand scheme of things does it matter if Ken gets another loss on his record or a NC or if Royce has another win or a NC. He has a decent argument for one but what's the point. It's not like having 17 losses instead of 16 hurts his legacy besides Protect yourself at all times. 

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02.20.2016 | 5:25 PM ET

Predictions: 9 of 17 Winners, 3 Perfect, 635 Points   |   Tied for 202nd

You guys ***** too much. Enjoy life.

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02.20.2016 | 5:50 PM ET

BREAKING: Multiple sources confirm Dhafir Harris was in critical condition overnight. His heart stopped and he was placed on a ventilator.

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02.20.2016 | 5:52 PM ET

Predictions: 8 of 17 Winners, 4 Perfect, 580 Points   |   Tied for 285th

These world class athletes deserve respect. We, are the greatest fighters in the world - Alexander Gustaffsson

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02.20.2016 | 5:53 PM ET

Predictions: 10 of 17 Winners, 4 Perfect, 735 Points   |   Tied for 83rd

Sean Sherk called out Royce Gracie on Facebook. 

Seems thirsty. 

* Edited at 02.20.2016, 5:53 PM ET *

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WastelandWanderer
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02.20.2016 | 5:56 PM ET

Predictions: 8 of 17 Winners, 4 Perfect, 580 Points   |   Tied for 285th

Time for Sean Sherk to get that Werk

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02.20.2016 | 6:56 PM ET

STATEMENT FROM THE FAMILY OF DHAFIR HARRIS - DADA 5000

The Harris Family would like to inform Dada's friends and fans that Dada is ok and resting comfortably in a Houston area Hospital under the care of an incredible staff of doctors and nurses.

The doctors have now informed us that Dada had accumulated extremely high levels of potassium in his blood which led to severe dehydration, fatigue and renal failure. The high potassium levels were likely caused by his 40lbs weight loss in preparation for the fight.

Thanks to the EMTs and doctors, Dada is now recovering nicely.

Dada showed the heart of a lion in the cage- not backing down throughout. He worked extremely hard preparing for the fight and stepped forward for 3 rounds against a tough veteran. He kept digging through the adversity- leaving it all in the cage for his fans and supporters. You can never take that away from him.

We'd like to thank all those who have supported Dada as well as express our sincere appreciation to Scott Coker and the good people at BELLATOR and Spike who have been on-site to visit Dada and support the family.

We ask for the public and media to respect Dada's privacy as he recovers.

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02.21.2016 | 8:35 AM ET

Predictions: 8 of 17 Winners, 4 Perfect, 580 Points   |   Tied for 285th

I don't think that could have gone much worse for Bellator. Kimbo-Dada was an embarrassingly **** fight that ended with Dada almost dying, apparently. Gracie-Shamrock was a bunch of nothing and a pretty bad job by the ref not noticing a clearly low knee, then the instant replays and announcer missed it too. Hope this didn't do the sort of ratings that would encourage them to put this sort of crap on again.

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