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UFC 291: Poirier vs. Gaethje 2

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05.13.2023 | 11:40 AM ET

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UFC 291
  • Saturday 07.29.2023 at 07:00 PM ET
  • U.S. Broadcast: Pay Per View | Prelims: ABC
  • Promotion: Ultimate Fighting Championship
  • Ownership: Endeavor
  • Venue: Vivint Arena
  • Location: Salt Lake City, Utah, United States
  • Enclosure: Octagon
  • TV Announcers: Jon Anik, Joe Rogan, Daniel Cormier
  • Ring Announcer: Bruce Buffer
  • Post-Fight Interviews: Joe Rogan
  • Ticket Revenue (live gate): $6,556,444
  • Attendance: 18,467
  • MMA Bouts: 11
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Bout   Info
Justin Gaethje   defeats   Dustin Poirier   via KO/TKO, Head Kick   1:00 Round 2 of 5, 6:00 Total Bout Page
Alex Pereira   defeats   Jan Błachowicz   via Decision, Split   3 Rounds, 15:00 Total Bout Page
Derrick Lewis   defeats   Marcos Rogério de Lima   via KO/TKO, Flying Knee to Ground Strikes   0:33 Round 1 of 3 Bout Page
Bobby Green   defeats   Tony Ferguson   via Submission, Arm Triangle Choke   4:54 Round 3 of 3, 14:54 Total Bout Page
Kevin Holland   defeats   Michael Chiesa   via Submission, D'arce Choke   2:39 Round 1 of 3 Bout Page
Gabriel Bonfim   defeats   Trevin Giles   via Submission, Guillotine Choke   1:13 Round 1 of 3 Bout Page
CJ Vergara   defeats   Vinicius Salvador   via Decision, Unanimous   3 Rounds, 15:00 Total Bout Page
Roman Kopylov   defeats   Claudio Ribeiro   via KO/TKO, Head Kick   0:33 Round 2 of 3, 5:33 Total Bout Page
Jake Matthews   defeats   Darrius Flowers   via Submission, Rear Naked Choke   2:37 Round 2 of 3, 7:37 Total Bout Page
Uros Medic   defeats   Matthew Semelsberger   via KO/TKO, Spinning Backfist to Ground Strikes   2:36 Round 3 of 3, 12:36 Total Bout Page
Miranda Maverick   defeats   Priscila Cachoeira   via Submission, Armbar   2:11 Round 3 of 3, 12:11 Total Bout Page

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piffjames508
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07.24.2023 | 4:35 PM ET

Prediction Comments

Predictions: 4 of 10 Winners, 1 Perfect, 225 Points   |   Tied for 5662nd

Poirier vs. Gaethje II
Dustin Poirier, DEC
waste of time

Błachowicz vs. Pereira
Jan Błachowicz, DEC
jan easy kid was getting boxed the fck up in that video jan is alot better in alot of grey areas in pereira

Chiesa vs. Holland
Michael Chiesa, SUB, R2
chiesa is huge fight night easy sub never betting holland ever shot in the dark

Thompson vs. Pereira
Stephen Thompson, DEC
capoeira vs karate i love it

Lewis vs. Rogério de Lima
Marcos Rogério de Lima, TKO, R3
been a good run derek time to hang it up

Giles vs. Bonfim
Gabriel Bonfim, DEC
always iffy when fighting a cop how could he arrest bonfim yeah...... fading the cop

Kopylov vs. Ribeiro
Roman Kopylov, DEC
riberos coach needs to ****

Vergara vs. Salvador
CJ Vergara, DEC
bad style for cj but i can see him grinding a W

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07.24.2023 | 6:24 PM ET

@AyyLmaonnaise

Predictions: 8 of 11 Winners, 1 Perfect, 485 Points   |   Tied for 2604th

Doesn't matter if he's on steroids or not, doesn't affect anything until he pops and even a fight that is turned into a NC has no impact on the outcome on the day as far as picks here goes unless I'm mistaken, and definitely no impact on bets.

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07.24.2023 | 6:30 PM ET

Predictions: 9 of 11 Winners, 4 Perfect, 665 Points   |   Tied for 160th

No you’re missing my point. I’m saying his pshyqiue is the result of steroids, not hard work. Look how fat he was in the Leininger fight then once he starts doing ostarine he looks shredded

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07.24.2023 | 6:38 PM ET

Predictions: 4 of 4 Winners, 2 Perfect, 315 Points   |   Tied for 5191st

It’s gonna be a war, a dog fight but Gaethje round 2 ko , lights out!
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07.24.2023 | 6:46 PM ET

Predictions: 8 of 11 Winners, 4 Perfect, 605 Points   |   Tied for 587th

Live betting on this card might be the way to go. If you see a guy dominating rd 1 but not getting a finish then maybe throw a little on the other guy. The guy doing more work will gas out quicker. Look at Romanov vs tybura on this card last year 
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07.24.2023 | 6:51 PM ET

Predictions: 8 of 11 Winners, 2 Perfect, 530 Points   |   Tied for 1690th

Stephen Thompson is “The goat” after winning.

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07.24.2023 | 7:01 PM ET

@AyyLmaonnaise

Predictions: 8 of 11 Winners, 1 Perfect, 485 Points   |   Tied for 2604th

And I'm saying so what? Steroids or not the physique he has is what he can use in the fight. He fought 6 months ago on Contender Series. I doubt he's going to lose all of his figure since then unless he stopped training and just sat on his couch eating fast food. If it was steroids even then they obviously didn't catch him so he could just have kept going.

Also USADA don't list Flowers in their database that I can see, tried to search for him, are you sure he officially popped?

Edit: So apparently it was 11 months ago he fought on Contender Series. Still don't see him listed in the USADA database though.
Whatever the case you just don't take steroids and then get shredded like a magical pill. You take steroids then work out hard and then you get extra shredded. There's no magic fat loss pill so he put in some work regardless.
We will see how he looks on the scale on friday.

* Edited at 07.24.2023, 7:06 PM ET *

"She’ll go there and smash her. She’ll get a title shot, become a UFC champion. We have a Ronda Rousey on steroids. This is what we have.” - Ali Abdelaziz on Kayla Harrison

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07.24.2023 | 7:04 PM ET

Predictions: 9 of 11 Winners, 4 Perfect, 665 Points   |   Tied for 160th

Yes, he was pulled from his debut because of a positive test for ostarine. I’m not just making this up. Either way he’s a can do his physique is irrelevant 

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07.24.2023 | 7:09 PM ET

@AyyLmaonnaise

Predictions: 8 of 11 Winners, 1 Perfect, 485 Points   |   Tied for 2604th

Alright if that's why he pulled out of the Gonzalez fight and I did find an article on it then he popped. Just making sure.
I don't fully trust USADA anyway. Very shady ties to the industry.

"She’ll go there and smash her. She’ll get a title shot, become a UFC champion. We have a Ronda Rousey on steroids. This is what we have.” - Ali Abdelaziz on Kayla Harrison

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07.24.2023 | 7:12 PM ET

Predictions: 9 of 11 Winners, 4 Perfect, 665 Points   |   Tied for 160th

He popped the same week Kyler Phillips did 

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07.24.2023 | 7:28 PM ET

Predictions: 8 of 11 Winners, 2 Perfect, 530 Points   |   Tied for 1690th

On Embedded Gaethje is going to be in Utah a week before the fight.

Dustin was still training at ATT, should I be worried ?

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07.24.2023 | 7:28 PM ET

Prediction Comments

Predictions: 9 of 11 Winners, 3 Perfect, 620 Points   |   Tied for 401st

Poirier vs. Gaethje II
Justin Gaethje, TKO, R4
After seeing Gaethje beat Fiziev,It seem he still want to become champ while I belive Dustin want to retire soon, Don't like how Dustin tried to say Darush isn't relevant,  But it should be a banger and honesly have no clue,

Błachowicz vs. Pereira
Alex Pereira, TKO, R1
Another fight I have no clue about, I'm taking Alex because I don't think they many people I pick if they stand with Alex and I belive Jan isn't going to wresle early

Thompson vs. Pereira
Stephen Thompson, DEC
Hard fight because Wonderboy old, But I think he's defencive wresling is underated and unless Wonderboy is washed, He not going to loss a kickboxing fight

Ferguson vs. Green
Bobby Green, TKO, R2
**** this fight, Bobby Green is either going to punch Fergo in the head 150 time, Or KO him, No one want to see Tony do the BJ Penn

Chiesa vs. Holland
Michael Chiesa, DEC
Holland can't wresle and Chiesa is a good wresler who never been KO'd, Chiesa should wresle to victory, Might take a shot on Holland by sub because that how Chiesa lose and Holland BJJ isn't bad

Giles vs. Bonfim
Gabriel Bonfim, SUB, R2
Bonfim seem like a solid prospect

Lewis vs. Rogério de Lima
Derrick Lewis, TKO, R1
Hoping for one last Derrick Lewis KO, I'm 50-50 on it because Lewis is old and De Lima isn't great

Kopylov vs. Ribeiro
Roman Kopylov, TKO, R2
All RIberiro has for himself is being athlatic, Kopylov has some nice boxing, Really doubt RIbeiro athete bully in this spot


* Edited at 07.24.2023, 7:31 PM ET *

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07.24.2023 | 7:37 PM ET

crimsonchin

Predictions: 6 of 11 Winners, 4 Perfect, 490 Points   |   Tied for 2595th

pretty sure dustin has been in utah for a few days now so until fight night he will have been in utah for close to 2 weeks

it's also worth noting that gaethje trains and lives full time in colorado which if i'm not mistaken is at an even higher elevation than utah

one last thing that I think might be worth mentioning is how after the last Utah card, Rockhold came out and said that he went there early and that still didn't help him adjust to the elevation
MMAparlay69
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07.24.2023 | 8:23 PM ET

Predictions: 1 of 2 Winners, 0 Perfect, 50 Points   |   Tied for 6041st

Thanks for the day cool down @gregory 
Fortunately for me I haven’t been sliced up yet guys 
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07.24.2023 | 8:35 PM ET

Predictions: 9 of 11 Winners, 4 Perfect, 665 Points   |   Tied for 160th

@mmaparlay stay safe I was worried jrey got u 

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07.24.2023 | 8:50 PM ET

Prediction comments

Predictions: 7 of 11 Winners, 0 Perfect, 350 Points   |   Tied for 4753rd

I think Gaethje will gonna win this
MMAparlay69
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07.24.2023 | 9:08 PM ET

Predictions: 1 of 2 Winners, 0 Perfect, 50 Points   |   Tied for 6041st

@AyyLmaonnaise 
looool 
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07.24.2023 | 9:14 PM ET

Prediction Comments

Predictions: 5 of 11 Winners, 0 Perfect, 265 Points   |   Tied for 5431st

Poirier vs. Gaethje II
Dustin Poirier, DEC
win

Błachowicz vs. Pereira
Jan Błachowicz, DEC
win

Ferguson vs. Green
Bobby Green, DEC
win

Chiesa vs. Holland
Kevin Holland, DEC
win

Thompson vs. Pereira
Stephen Thompson, DEC
win

Lewis vs. Rogério de Lima
Derrick Lewis, TKO, R2
win

Giles vs. Bonfim
Trevin Giles, DEC
win

Kopylov vs. Ribeiro
Claudio Ribeiro, DEC
win

Vergara vs. Salvador
Vinicius Salvador, DEC
win

Matthews vs. Flowers
Jake Matthews, DEC
win

Maverick vs. Cachoeira
Miranda Maverick, DEC
win

Semelsberger vs. Medic
Matthew Semelsberger, DEC
win

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07.24.2023 | 9:19 PM ET

Predictions: 9 of 11 Winners, 3 Perfect, 620 Points   |   Tied for 401st

I'm not that worried for Dustin gassing because Dustin does have really excellent cardio, He's been in brawl and I never really seen him that tired, and just to add to my point,  look at fightmetic on some of his fight,  He has thrown some volume in some of his fight


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07.24.2023 | 9:21 PM ET

Predictions: 8 of 11 Winners, 2 Perfect, 530 Points   |   Tied for 1690th

I thought Embedded was filmed starting the Saturday before the fight?

Cause if so he was still at ATT

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