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UFC 246
  • Saturday 01.18.2020 at 10:00 PM ET
  • U.S. Broadcast: Pay Per View | Prelims: ESPN
  • Promotion: Ultimate Fighting Championship
  • Ownership: WME-IMG
  • Venue: T-Mobile Arena
  • Location: Las Vegas, Nevada, United States
  • Enclosure: Octagon
  • TV Announcers: Jon Anik, Joe Rogan, Paul Felder
  • Ring Announcer: Bruce Buffer
  • Post-Fight Interviews: Joe Rogan
  • Ticket Revenue (live gate): $11,089,129
  • Attendance: 19,040
  • PPV Buys / Buyrate: 1,353,429 | TV Ratings: 1.77M avg. viewers (ESPN prelims)
  • MMA Bouts: 11
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Bout   Info
Conor McGregor   defeats   Donald Cerrone   via KO/TKO, Head Kick and Punches   0:40 Round 1 of 5 Bout Page
Holly Holm   defeats   Raquel Pennington   via Decision, Unanimous   3 Rounds, 15:00 Total Bout Page
Aleksei Oleinik   defeats   Maurice Greene   via Submission, Armbar   4:38 Round 2 of 3, 9:38 Total Bout Page
Brian Kelleher   defeats   Ode Osbourne   via Submission, Guillotine Choke   2:49 Round 1 of 3 Bout Page
Diego Ferreira   defeats   Anthony Pettis   via Submission, Rear Naked Choke   1:46 Round 2 of 3, 6:46 Total Bout Page
Roxanne Modafferi   defeats   Maycee Barber   via Decision, Unanimous   3 Rounds, 15:00 Total Bout Page
Sodiq Yusuff   defeats   Andre Fili   via Decision, Unanimous   3 Rounds, 15:00 Total Bout Page
Askar Askarov   defeats   Tim Elliott   via Decision, Unanimous   3 Rounds, 15:00 Total Bout Page
Drew Dober   defeats   Nasrat Haqparast   via KO/TKO, Counter Cross to Ground and Pound   1:10 Round 1 of 3 Bout Page
Aleksa Camur   defeats   Justin Ledet   via Decision, Unanimous   3 Rounds, 15:00 Total Bout Page
Sabina Mazo   defeats   JJ Aldrich   via Decision, Split   3 Rounds, 15:00 Total Bout Page

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pie2munch
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01.19.2020 | 8:42 PM ET

Predictions: 7 of 11 Winners, 0 Perfect, 380 Points   |   Tied for 1290th

oh and that criteria you suggested fish, rewatch
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01.19.2020 | 9:04 PM ET

Maycee Barber suffered a complete ACL tear

Predictions: 6 of 11 Winners, 3 Perfect, 400 Points   |   Tied for 1053rd


I knew that knee was trashed. Still coulda been worse. I tore my ACL and MCL snowboarding 15 years ago. That knee has never been the same. Lots of problems with it actually


https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.espn.com/mma/story/_/id/28519026/maycee-barber-suffered-complete-acl-tear-loss-ufc-246%3fplatform=amp?espv=1

"**** Fentanyl & **** Opiates too..."

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01.19.2020 | 9:15 PM ET

Predictions: 5 of 11 Winners, 1 Perfect, 290 Points   |   Tied for 2269th

@Pie that is literally the most ******** thing I have ever seen you post. You just demonstrated exactly what I was saying and further demonstrated that you don't understand the scoring. So again, what you're telling me is, despite JJ landing the better cleaner power lands ( and even cumulative damage) that Mazo somehow won the round because JJ was backing up?

Ok, I'm done.
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pie2munch
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01.19.2020 | 9:21 PM ET

Predictions: 7 of 11 Winners, 0 Perfect, 380 Points   |   Tied for 1290th

ummm you're dumb 

who demonstrated the more effective striking 

Mazo did and JJ wore it 
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01.19.2020 | 9:22 PM ET

Predictions: 7 of 11 Winners, 0 Perfect, 380 Points   |   Tied for 1290th

look at the strike stats
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01.19.2020 | 9:22 PM ET

Predictions: 7 of 11 Winners, 0 Perfect, 380 Points   |   Tied for 1290th

look at the damage
pie2munch
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01.19.2020 | 9:23 PM ET

Predictions: 7 of 11 Winners, 0 Perfect, 380 Points   |   Tied for 1290th

look at the ring generalship
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01.19.2020 | 9:24 PM ET

Predictions: 7 of 11 Winners, 0 Perfect, 380 Points   |   Tied for 1290th

you're the exact key board warrior who i like, who couldn't see it the other way but needs to back the **** up, rewatch, learn and ****
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01.19.2020 | 9:25 PM ET

Predictions: 7 of 11 Winners, 0 Perfect, 380 Points   |   Tied for 1290th

watch it again like i did, and then pick up your poopy pants
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01.19.2020 | 9:26 PM ET

Predictions: 7 of 11 Winners, 0 Perfect, 380 Points   |   Tied for 1290th

sorry you're wrong fish, rewatch
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01.19.2020 | 9:26 PM ET

Predictions: 7 of 11 Winners, 0 Perfect, 380 Points   |   Tied for 1290th

like i did and broke it down properly unlike an idiot sideliner
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01.19.2020 | 9:28 PM ET

Predictions: 5 of 11 Winners, 2 Perfect, 340 Points   |   Tied for 1808th

This debate reminds me of Calderwood/Lee 
I thought lee won but Calderwood had more impactful moments as the fight progressed and understood why she won. I feel the same happened here.
Aldrich dominated the first round, mazo was barely touching her even if it was 2:1.
Second round, Mazo pushed J.J back more, landed the nice headkick at the end and finished the round looking cleaner (not literally since her nose was busted up)
she performed better the last 5 minutes which made up for her losing the first 5 minutes.
I thought it was a blatant 29-28 but only by a few hairs. 
When I heard Adelaide Byrd was the judge, I laughed so hard. 

* Edited at 01.19.2020, 10:25 PM ET *

"R.I.P. Beneil"

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01.19.2020 | 9:30 PM ET

Predictions: 5 of 11 Winners, 2 Perfect, 340 Points   |   Tied for 1808th

This thread got very ugly, i guess the mma people are still all riled up because ol' mcgregie's back
who da foooooook is dat guy 

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01.19.2020 | 9:48 PM ET

Predictions: 5 of 11 Winners, 1 Perfect, 290 Points   |   Tied for 2269th

lol Pie are you for real? How exactly did JJ wear the damage? Who was the one pissing blood out her nose the whole fight and getting her head snapped back? Mazo was landing pitter-patter the entire fight and only looked semi-decent in the third when JJ gassed. The moments Mazo had in the second weren't close to enough to give her the round. Aaprt from a knee, she landed NOTHING significant in the clinch, JJ simply took it on the arms/shoulders.

look at the strike stats


Already accounted for but you didn't read it


look at the damage


Mazo was the one visibly beaten up, JJ simply looked gassed


look at the ring generalship


Again, a lower-tier consideration which cannot factor into scoring assessments unless no fighter displayed an immediate damage advantage which JJ did, and you didn't even understand this until I explained it to you. Let's not pretend you did.


You don't what the rules are. Never read them. And if you did, you probably still wouldn't understand how they are meant to be interpreted. In fact if you had any more understanding of the way scoring is meant to function than my morning ablution you'd make the argument that the cumulative impact of Mazo was greater and led to a higher probability  of the fight being brought to a conclusion, which is part of the primary criteria. I wouldn't accept that argument but it's the only sensible one you can make for Mazo winning that fight. It's also something you'd know if you had read the rules, and you have not. It's actually not even possible to understand scoring at all unless you understand the tenets of the primary criteria, and since you do not, my assertion that you have no idea what you're talking about is probably accurate.


I don't care what you think, and I'm not interested in reading why you think what you do, because you haven't read, let alone studied, the judging criteria.  Read it, then get back to me.



* Edited at 01.19.2020, 9:55 PM ET *

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01.19.2020 | 9:55 PM ET

Predictions: 7 of 11 Winners, 0 Perfect, 380 Points   |   Tied for 1290th

hahaha, like a despeate *****, you looked at first round damage as a 2nd round damage like the fist kiss was to resonate to the second 

simply look ar the second without purpose to see where you did you wrong

it waS A SIMPLE KISS, Not what you though was real

* Edited at 01.19.2020, 9:56 PM ET *

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01.19.2020 | 10:02 PM ET

Predictions: 5 of 11 Winners, 1 Perfect, 290 Points   |   Tied for 2269th

Every round is an island. MMA is scored by rounds.

Aldrich landed the better, cleaner lands that caused the most significant damage in  rounds 1 and 2. Since she did this, and met the primary criteria in terms of advantage, she outscored Mazo who was less effective.

That's how it works, and that's how it is.

Again, I invite you to read the guidelines. I didn't create them, and I do not even necessarily agree with them.

http://www.abcboxing.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/juding_criteriascoring_rev0816.pdf

* Edited at 01.19.2020, 10:03 PM ET *

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01.19.2020 | 10:12 PM ET

Predictions: 5 of 11 Winners, 1 Perfect, 290 Points   |   Tied for 2269th

See here's the thing Pie: I don't even care if anyone disagrees with me on a scoring outcome on the condition that they actually know what the criteria is, how it works, and how it should be applied.

But you will read and understand them if you want to have an opinion that is predicated on knowledge that should be taken seriously. Oh yes. You will. Because saying **** like I'm 'suggesting' the criteria is ridiculous. I'm not suggesting them. They are what they are, they exist whether you think they do or not, are what judges refer to when scoring, and you don't just get to say 'oh well **** that, here's how I think it works'.

Now, it is very possible to win a decision and lose a fight. But that's a different deal.

* Edited at 01.19.2020, 10:16 PM ET *

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01.19.2020 | 10:16 PM ET

Predictions: 7 of 11 Winners, 0 Perfect, 380 Points   |   Tied for 1290th

yes please do

many see it over you

and you're over ruled

eat it

stop being what you think, you were wrong in this instance and i reread the rules nd you're blind at the stats and the rules

sto[ while youre behind

i now looked at the stats once again 

check before i expose you're biases 

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01.19.2020 | 10:19 PM ET

Predictions: 7 of 11 Winners, 0 Perfect, 380 Points   |   Tied for 1290th

round 2, show my anything JJ threw that was effective
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01.19.2020 | 10:21 PM ET

Predictions: 7 of 11 Winners, 0 Perfect, 380 Points   |   Tied for 1290th

because i can tell you mazo did





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