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05.13.2019 | 10:12 PM ET

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UFC on ESPN+ 15
  • Saturday 08.31.2019 at 03:00 AM ET
  • U.S. Broadcast: ESPN+ | Prelims: ESPN
  • Name: UFC on ESPN+ 15: Andrade vs. Zhang
  • Also Known As: UFC Fight Night Shenzhen
  • Promotion: Ultimate Fighting Championship
  • Ownership: WME-IMG
  • Venue: Universiade Sports Centre
  • Location: Shenzhen, China
  • Enclosure: Octagon
  • TV Announcers: Brendan Fitzgerald, Michael Bisping
  • Ring Announcer: Bruce Buffer
  • Post-Fight Interviews: Michael Bisping
  • MMA Bouts: 11
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Bout   Info
Weili Zhang   defeats   Jéssica Andrade   via KO/TKO, Knees and Punches   0:42 Round 1 of 5 Bout Page
Jingliang Li   defeats   Elizeu Zaleski   via KO/TKO, Punches   4:51 Round 3 of 3, 14:51 Total Bout Page
Kai Kara-France   defeats   Mark De La Rosa   via Decision, Unanimous   3 Rounds, 15:00 Total Bout Page
Kenan Song   defeats   Derrick Krantz   via Decision, Unanimous   3 Rounds, 15:00 Total Bout Page
Mizuki Inoue   defeats   Yanan Wu   via Decision, Split   3 Rounds, 15:00 Total Bout Page
Anthony Hernandez   defeats   Jun Yong Park   via Submission, Anaconda Choke   4:39 Round 2 of 3, 9:39 Total Bout Page
Su Mudaerji   defeats   Andre Soukhamthath   via Decision, Unanimous   3 Rounds, 15:00 Total Bout Page
Da Un Jung   defeats   Khadis Ibragimov   via Submission, Standing Guillotine Choke   2:00 Round 3 of 3, 12:00 Total Bout Page
Damir Ismagulov   defeats   Thiago Moisés   via Decision, Unanimous   3 Rounds, 15:00 Total Bout Page
Heili Alateng   defeats   Danaa Batgerel   via Decision, Unanimous   3 Rounds, 15:00 Total Bout Page
Karol Rosa   defeats   Lara Procópio   via Decision, Split   3 Rounds, 15:00 Total Bout Page

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SevenLakerSeth
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08.31.2019 | 6:06 PM ET

I can talk all I want. H2h lets go *****. No balls. 
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08.31.2019 | 6:21 PM ET

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Predictions: 0 of 0 Winners, 0 Perfect, 0 Points   |   Tied for 1794th

The Chinese fighters are dogged.. you can tell how hard they work .. another factor is they know there will always be another one behind them ready to step up ( crazy conveyer belt society and population ) and take their place .. when i was in highschool there was a Chinese girl in 1 of my subject classes, never heard her talk for 3 years .. she was the top 1st or 2nd student for grades  for those years .. i used to skip those classes mostly to go get high or do other dumb **** ( play UFC at my friends house for rest of day then go train at 7pm ).. Da Un Jung was in top shape too.. alot of the Koreans are alpha as fcuk .. my favorite is Kim Hyeon Woo a Judo turned Greco wrestler.. check that guy out . .. God help us all if Russia and China march west someday .. the Chinese will swarm in on the frontline .. Ruskies will lay back and enjoy the show

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Adrian99
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08.31.2019 | 6:56 PM ET

Predictions: 3 of 11 Winners, 3 Perfect, 225 Points   |   Tied for 1445th

5 American
1 Australian / New Zealand 
1 Brazilian
1 Russian
1 Kyrgyz
2 Nigerian
1 Chinese

A list of where the current UFC champs are from and honestly i cant wait for each divison to come from a different part of the world cause that would be pretty cool imo to see the parody and new storylines that would come from all the belt changes. This has to be one of the most exciting times in mma where a champ can come from anywhere and i think this is just awesome.

* Edited at 08.31.2019, 6:56 PM ET *

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09.01.2019 | 12:44 AM ET

Predictions: 7 of 11 Winners, 3 Perfect, 440 Points   |   Tied for 173rd

Well I'm not one to start crying wolf. But c'mon. She gets a title shot after beating tecia Torres who beats nobody ever. In China. New market new champion. Hmmmm. Coincidence. Or dana white is a ******* weasel. I wonder what's more likely.
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09.01.2019 | 12:52 AM ET

Predictions: 7 of 11 Winners, 4 Perfect, 450 Points   |   Tied for 139th

Andrade didn't seem damaged and didn't seem to care that she lost after the fight. Like, at all--on both counts.

Food for thought.

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09.01.2019 | 4:08 AM ET

Predictions: 6 of 11 Winners, 4 Perfect, 400 Points   |   Tied for 326th


@free  "I'm not 1 to start crying,,, BUT "Waaaah, waaaah, wwwwaaaahhhh  It's a FIX!!!"

@Fish   Andrade didn't seem right coz she was melted in the jaw with a straight right, ate multiple knees and elbows til she was curled up in a ball on the ground!

You guys really think something dodgy happened?   I don't, not at all!  Zhang put a whooping on her that's all that happened!

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09.01.2019 | 4:20 AM ET

Predictions: 7 of 11 Winners, 4 Perfect, 450 Points   |   Tied for 139th

I'm a natural cynic Mikey.Cui Bono. I don't think she ate as much as damage as rose put on her. And Weili winning was literally the absolute optimum outcome especially after an expensive and extremely leveraged acquisition that could be offset by a fresh elephant market. And she was shoehorned into the bout.

I don't go full kook, but it is all very interesting.

It's moot anyway. Not like we'll ever know. It's a dirty business, things happen. I remember  there was an Australian UFC card can't remember which) that Australian bookies weren't allowed to post lines for because ASIO (basically our CIA but scarier, I could tell you things and I don't even like typing that word because if they want to they can literally turn you into gas and pour you into the stratosphere because they are accountable to nobody, not parliament, nor the judiciary) contended that matches were fixed.




* Edited at 09.01.2019, 4:29 AM ET *

"Omnes Una Manet Nox"

Mikey1903
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09.01.2019 | 4:37 AM ET

Predictions: 6 of 11 Winners, 4 Perfect, 400 Points   |   Tied for 326th


Fair enough mate.  I know it's a dodgy AF business.  Always has, always will.
I just think people are too quick to cry fluke, fix or whatever other reason whenever an upset happens.  It's a fight, anything can and will happen.  I'm happy for Zhang, 

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09.01.2019 | 4:44 AM ET

Predictions: 5 of 11 Winners, 3 Perfect, 350 Points   |   Tied for 583rd

andrade made the exact same mistake cyborg made when she fought nunes, she didnt respect her opponent. thought she could just walk her down and over power her for the ko. same mistake, same outcome.

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09.01.2019 | 12:06 PM ET

Predictions: 7 of 11 Winners, 7 Perfect, 550 Points   |   20th Place

Gotta agree with Philip... Even tho I'll admit before anyone says something.... I was the salty ******* *****ing about Colby vs. Lawler.

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freemoneyforall
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09.01.2019 | 5:13 PM ET

Predictions: 7 of 11 Winners, 3 Perfect, 440 Points   |   Tied for 173rd

I'm not saying it's fixed but over the years it seems like dodgy **** happens alot. I mean that was basically best case scenario for the ufc first with Andrade vs rose now with Zhang. It seems to happen alot. 

P.s. I'm also sour since I bet it all on Andrade. But I'm sure that has nothing to do with it
Mikey1903
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09.01.2019 | 6:11 PM ET

Predictions: 6 of 11 Winners, 4 Perfect, 400 Points   |   Tied for 326th

That's right! You went All In on Andrade!!! That tactic was bold but always likely to end in tears bud!!! I'm bust too!! Think a few people are after the Zhang and Jiangling results!!!

I think people remember the **** that seems like it could be dodgy a lot more than when the opposite happens.  Like Masvidal sparking Till out in London, Rousey getting melted in her big comeback! Gustafson getting smashed by Rumble in Stockholm. There's countless times when the hometown fighter or the fighter with more fans who brings in much more revenue gets smoked.  
The UFC does many sneaky, under handed things. But fixing fights they do not.   If they were caught they'd be instantly shut down! Even serious, credible accusations would cause massive issues.  Fight fixings 1 thing Im positive they would never do

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09.01.2019 | 8:35 PM ET

Predictions: 7 of 11 Winners, 4 Perfect, 450 Points   |   Tied for 139th

I took it up the out door too. Think I've got 1k left.

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09.01.2019 | 8:48 PM ET

Predictions: 7 of 11 Winners, 7 Perfect, 550 Points   |   20th Place

S Fight fixing in MMA, or the UFC.... Ahhhhhh prolly not. I'm just salty. Now boxing, THAT'S A DIFFERENT STORY. Especially when goes to the judges scorecards. There's 1,000s of times I've thought "yeeaaaa, that judge was paid off!"

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freemoneyforall
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09.01.2019 | 10:49 PM ET

Predictions: 7 of 11 Winners, 3 Perfect, 440 Points   |   Tied for 173rd

******  poir420 u ****** me again!
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09.02.2019 | 9:32 AM ET

Predictions: 7 of 11 Winners, 3 Perfect, 440 Points   |   Tied for 173rd

Completely useless trivia: In an alphabetical list of UFC champs, SW just went from 1st to last.

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Adrian99
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09.10.2019 | 4:21 AM ET

Predictions: 3 of 11 Winners, 3 Perfect, 225 Points   |   Tied for 1445th

Damir Ismagulov fights to the level of his competition and goes for the bare minimum like he did with Thiago in this fight so i dont think we've even seen the best version of Damir

a step up/style challenge in Vinc Pichel or a dangerous vet in Leonardo Santos would both be great tests
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09.15.2019 | 4:53 AM ET

Predictions: 1 of 1 Winners, 0 Perfect, 65 Points   |   Tied for 1755th

Great fight. Can't wait to see who Zhang kills next. 
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09.15.2019 | 8:08 AM ET

Predictions: 4 of 11 Winners, 2 Perfect, 265 Points   |   Tied for 1221st

Zhang get kill by Suarez next ;)

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