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UFC 284: Makhachev vs. Volkanovski

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10.07.2022 | 11:04 AM ET

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UFC 284
  • Saturday 02.11.2023 at 06:00 PM ET
  • U.S. Broadcast: Pay Per View | Prelims: ESPN
  • Promotion: Ultimate Fighting Championship
  • Ownership: Endeavor
  • Venue: RAC Arena
  • Location: Perth, Western Australia
  • Enclosure: Octagon
  • TV Announcers: Jon Anik, Dominick Cruz, Michael Bisping
  • Ring Announcer: Bruce Buffer
  • Post-Fight Interviews: Michael Bisping
  • Ticket Revenue (live gate): $4,086,687
  • Attendance: 14,124
  • PPV Buys / Buyrate: N/A | TV Ratings: 1.13M avg. viewers (ESPN prelims)
  • MMA Bouts: 13
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Bout   Info
Islam Makhachev   defeats   Alexander Volkanovski   via Decision, Unanimous   5 Rounds, 25:00 Total Bout Page
Yair Rodriguez   defeats   Josh Emmett   via Submission, Triangle Choke   4:19 Round 2 of 5, 9:19 Total Bout Page
Jack Della Maddalena   defeats   Randy Brown   via Submission, Rear Naked Choke   2:13 Round 1 of 3 Bout Page
Justin Tafa   defeats   Parker Porter   via KO/TKO, Counter Left   1:05 Round 1 of 3 Bout Page
Jimmy Crute   vs.   Alonzo Menifield   Ends in a Draw, Majority   3 Rounds, 15:00 Total Bout Page
Modestas Bukauskas   defeats   Tyson Pedro   via Decision, Unanimous   3 Rounds, 15:00 Total Bout Page
Josh Culibao   defeats   Melsik Baghdasaryan   via Submission, Rear Naked Choke   2:02 Round 2 of 3, 7:02 Total Bout Page
Kleydson Rodrigues   defeats   Shannon Ross   via KO/TKO, Kicks and Punches   0:59 Round 1 of 3 Bout Page
Jamie Mullarkey   defeats   Francisco Prado   via Decision, Unanimous   3 Rounds, 15:00 Total Bout Page
Jack Jenkins   defeats   Don Shainis   via Decision, Unanimous   3 Rounds, 15:00 Total Bout Page
Loma Lookboonmee   defeats   Elise Reed   via Submission, Rear Naked Choke   0:44 Round 2 of 3, 5:44 Total Bout Page
Blake Bilder   defeats   Shane Young   via Decision, Unanimous   3 Rounds, 15:00 Total Bout Page
Elves Brener   defeats   Zubaira Tukhugov   via Decision, Split   3 Rounds, 15:00 Total Bout Page

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danromanick
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02.08.2023 | 11:16 AM ET

Predictions: 9 of 13 Winners, 3 Perfect, 525 Points   |   Tied for 679th

@Ayy I've actually been impressed with Menifield during his last couple of fights. I think he's just been inconsistent and starting to figure it out. I may be incredibly wrong about him tho, and he might get starched by Crute. I also don't think Crute is that good either, but I don't think he's bad at all
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02.08.2023 | 11:32 AM ET

Predictions: 9 of 13 Winners, 1 Perfect, 515 Points   |   Tied for 819th

I think crute is okay and just got pushed too fast, and Alonzo is just bad. He has looked much improved, but his level of competition is just awful 

He’s fought 
Fabio cherant - 0-3 in the ufc, not remotely ready, short notice 
Ed herman - 42 year old senior citizen 
Loses to William knight - this is a bad loss anyways, but he got dropped in the first, and then gassed out and tried to wall n stall to a win. 
askar mozharov - record padder. Sherdog has him with a pro record of 15-14 
Misha cirkunov - beat the ghost of misha. Misha was good like 5 years ago and was so beyond washed when he fought Alonzo. 

He’s beaten 4 cans and lost to a pretty bad fighter. I’ve also noticed Alonzo still rushes in with his chin up (even after the OSP loss), he gasses out after one round, and he has a dodgy chin. I personally don’t think he’s a good striker at all, just jacked and has power. Crutes striking isn’t amazing either but he should be able to work Alonzo on the feet. I’m not actually sure if crute will be able to wrestle Alonzo because the one thing Alonzo does consistently well is defend takedowns. Now, Alonzo has yet to really face a great wrestler like crute, so it’s possible he can have success on the ground. If he gets Alonzo down at all it will quickly be over. On the feet I think it will take a little bit longer but he can still chin Alonzo. 

I do agree with the masses that crute was very overrated to begin with, but he’s far from a bad fighter. He just got pushed too quickly. I thought he had a very bad gameplan against smith, and should have been wrestling from the start, not when his leg gave out. And then a loss to hill isn’t bad at all because we’ve seen what he’s capable of. He’s taken time off and gotten surgery on lasting injuries. He’s also only 26, so I’m sure he’s improved on his time off 

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02.08.2023 | 11:35 AM ET

Predictions: 4 of 8 Winners, 0 Perfect, 230 Points   |   Tied for 4753rd

I already have 9K on this card ... ill be dropping atleast another 3/4k 

Tyson Pedro? That Modestas bum had that awful knee injury and tyson loves to throw leg kicks, plus hes better than that bum everywhere .. dont see how he loses

Shainis is a ******* bum, he was brought in to lose ... this clown fought bums his whole career ... when he was 9-3 he fought Jay ellis ... i dont think Jenkis is actually taking him serious ... after jenkins KO's this fool ... the fight to make is Shainis vs Fiore ... the biggest loser gets cut

Who is elves brenner? Never heard of him ... another bum that gets tko'ed (?)

JDM
ISLAM
TYSON PEDRO
JENKINS
ZUBAIRA

the only way I see any of these guys losing, is by INJURY


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02.08.2023 | 11:37 AM ET

Predictions: 9 of 13 Winners, 3 Perfect, 525 Points   |   Tied for 679th

Izzy is high on Crute, so that either means he sucks or he's the real deal bc Izzy is usually really right or really wrong
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02.08.2023 | 11:44 AM ET

Predictions: 6 of 13 Winners, 0 Perfect, 360 Points   |   3822nd Place

Izzy and Crute are friends, same with Volkanovski and Whittaker being friends. They're all from that same region so they support each other, only people that have any sort of "beef" are Izzy and Rob due to their feud in the sport from being direct competitors, everyone else is either separated by weight class or promotion so they usually never have to fight. 

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danromanick
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02.08.2023 | 11:49 AM ET

Predictions: 9 of 13 Winners, 3 Perfect, 525 Points   |   Tied for 679th

I don't think Izzy and Rob actually hate each other and kind of make the "beef" up bc they had to punch each other in the face twice already. I think Izzy just finds Rob annoying bc Rob claims that he isn't that far behind him which isn't exactly a false statement.
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02.08.2023 | 11:53 AM ET

Predictions: 8 of 13 Winners, 2 Perfect, 450 Points   |   Tied for 2121st

He's not far behind him though. He literally arguably beat him in the rematch

* Edited at 02.08.2023, 1:33 PM ET *

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danromanick
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02.08.2023 | 12:17 PM ET

Predictions: 9 of 13 Winners, 3 Perfect, 525 Points   |   Tied for 679th

I was saying that Rob saying he isn't too behind Izzy isn't a false statement. I think y'all misinterpreted what I was saying
danromanick
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02.08.2023 | 12:18 PM ET

Predictions: 9 of 13 Winners, 3 Perfect, 525 Points   |   Tied for 679th

I honestly think Rob could easily beat Alex if he just rushes in with a hook, clinches, and then hold him against the fence if he can't get a takedown
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02.08.2023 | 12:40 PM ET

Prediction Comments

Predictions: 9 of 13 Winners, 1 Perfect, 500 Points   |   Tied for 1090th

Tukhugov vs. Brenner
Zubaira Tukhugov, TKO, R1
huge step down in comp

"Too much wine "

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02.08.2023 | 12:41 PM ET

Prediction Comments

Predictions: 9 of 13 Winners, 1 Perfect, 500 Points   |   Tied for 1090th

Bilder vs. Young
Shane Young, DEC
taking the striker with takedown defense over the defenseless grappler

"Too much wine "

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02.08.2023 | 12:44 PM ET

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Predictions: 9 of 13 Winners, 1 Perfect, 500 Points   |   Tied for 1090th

Mullarkey vs. Prado
Francisco Prado, TKO, R1
close fight i think prado lands big early

Jenkins vs. Shainis
Jack Jenkins, TKO, R2
easy fight for jack he will lose once comp steps up

Lookboonmee vs. Reed
Loma Lookboonmee, DEC
loma is better

"Too much wine "

MaxDai
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02.08.2023 | 12:51 PM ET

Prediction Comments

Predictions: 4 of 13 Winners, 0 Perfect, 200 Points   |   Tied for 4812th

Makhachev vs. Volkanovski
Alexander Volkanovski
Alexander Volkanovski has to win this fight.

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02.08.2023 | 1:14 PM ET

Predictions: 9 of 13 Winners, 3 Perfect, 590 Points   |   Tied for 141st

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02.08.2023 | 1:34 PM ET

danromanick

Predictions: 8 of 13 Winners, 2 Perfect, 450 Points   |   Tied for 2121st

Oh yeah I def misunderstood what you were saying. Idk how cause it makes sense look at it now, but at first glance your statement was not clear at all lol
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paulopasta
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02.08.2023 | 1:51 PM ET

Predictions: 10 of 13 Winners, 2 Perfect, 600 Points   |   Tied for 87th

Crute said he thinks he’s gonna run through Menifield which makes me think he’s gonna come out and wrestle straight away
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02.08.2023 | 2:07 PM ET

Predictions: 8 of 13 Winners, 1 Perfect, 465 Points   |   Tied for 1821st

I'm going to bet a little on Yair because the worst real odds I can give him is -200. The only thing giving me pause is that I keep betting against Emmett and I keep losing those bets.

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02.08.2023 | 2:22 PM ET

Predictions: 7 of 13 Winners, 1 Perfect, 405 Points   |   Tied for 3022nd

it was exactly same odds with kattar vs. emmett now it's yair vs. emmett. i won't make same mistake again - going with emmett on this one. 

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02.08.2023 | 2:29 PM ET

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Predictions: 5 of 7 Winners, 1 Perfect, 290 Points   |   Tied for 4495th

What’s you’re opinion on Rodrigues I’m certain on tukhugov Jenkins and islam seeing everyone comment on JDM has made me a bit hesitant on him tho and bams reasoning behind Rodrigues is making me wanna add him to my parlay.
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02.08.2023 | 2:43 PM ET

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Predictions: 5 of 13 Winners, 1 Perfect, 275 Points   |   Tied for 4539th

Tukhugov vs. Brenner
Zubaira Tukhugov, TKO, R1
100% takedown defence

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