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Cormier vs. Mir

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01.16.2013 | 1:34 PM ET

Prediction: correct Cormier   correct Decision  

This is the official discussion thread for Cormier vs. Mir. Let's see what you've got.

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Daniel Cormier defeats Frank Mir via 3 Round Decision

Daniel "DC" Cormier
Frank Mir

Cormier
Decision
Round 3

11-0-0   Pro Record At Fight   16-6-0
Climbed to 12-0   Record After Fight   Fell to 16-7
-390 (Moderate Favorite)   Betting Odds   +310 (Moderate Underdog)
United States   Nationality   United States
San Jose, California   Fighting out of   Las Vegas, Nevada
34 years, 1 month   Age at Fight   33 years, 10 months, 3 weeks, 6 days
235.0 lbs (106.6 kgs)   Weigh-In Result   257.0 lbs (116.6 kgs)
5'11" (181cm)   Height   6'3" (190cm)
72.5" (184cm)   Reach   75.0" (191cm)
American Kickboxing Academy   Gym   Drysdale Jiu Jitsu (Jiu Jitsu)
Manchester Top Team (Other)
Jackson Wink MMA (Primary)
Tapology Community Predictions: 1535  
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KO/TKO
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Submission
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Decision
Mir
19%
Cormier
81%

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Gregory
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02.14.2013 | 11:14 PM ET

Prediction: correct Cormier   wrong KO/TKO   wrong Round 1  

Not sure what all the hubbub is about, but I looking through the comments on this last page, I do agree that Mir is a step down from Barnett.  Mir is going to get destroyed by Cormier. It's an uninteresting fight, but the heavyweight division has no depth.

I'd say that Mir and Bigfoot are comparable challenge-wise, but bring different things to the table.


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02.14.2013 | 11:14 PM ET

I could see the misconception that Mir would seem like a step down from Barnett because Cormier just matches up better against someone like Mir.  Cormier's got crazy power and Mir's got a weak chin.  I think for Cormier, Mir is absolutely an easier fight than Barnett. 
As much as I dislike Mir, he's been beating much tougher competition than Barnett.  It's a small step up, in fact I have Mir and Barnett as #7 and #8 respectively, but a step up nonetheless.

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02.14.2013 | 11:16 PM ET

Prediction: correct Cormier   wrong KO/TKO   wrong Round 1  

Dont see how Mir is a step down. how do we even gauge how good Barnett is currently. His best wins are mid-tier russian and rogers. Who is to say Mir would have done the same thing. Yet, Mir has beaten better competition. Mir's jitz is arguably..IS better, and his standup is just as good.


Not a step down.

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Gregory
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02.14.2013 | 11:21 PM ET

Prediction: correct Cormier   wrong KO/TKO   wrong Round 1  

Mir is too easy to KTFO.  It's his huge glaring weakness. Barnett is tough as nails.

But let's wait and see how Cormier vs Mir plays out.  It's not totally fair to compare since each fight is different, but the manner in which Cormier handles Mir as compared to how he handled Barnett will be worth discussing.

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02.15.2013 | 4:34 AM ET

Prediction: correct Cormier   wrong KO/TKO   wrong Round 2  

Cormier has the great olympic wrestling pedigree, the cardio, the speed, and great boxing skills, while Mir has the experience, the size, and the most dangerous submission game in all of MMA. The longer the fight goes, the more it plays in Cormier's hands. Mir has had problems in the past with wrestlers that have a good striking game, but then again Cormier has never faced a top tier fighter like MIr.

There's also a lot at stake here. If Cormier wins, he solidifies his place among the elite HWs in the UFC. If Mir wins, then it could put Mir right back in the title picture.

At this point, it looks like the odds are in Cormier's favor, but Mir does better as the underdog on most occassions. When he was the underdog he broke Tim Sylvia's arm, almost took Tank Abbott's leg home with him, almost dislocated Pete Williams shoulder, and broke Big Nog's arm.

It's a tough fight to call, but I think Cormier takes this one by 2nd or 3rd round TKO.

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02.15.2013 | 6:20 AM ET

God I hope Mir wins.. I can't really see it though.. But Mir only loses by KO, Can Daniel knock him out? Probably but I'm not so sure he will though.. COME ON MIR.

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02.15.2013 | 6:21 AM ET

@Gregory.. Mir isn't a stepdown from Barnett.. No chance.

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02.15.2013 | 8:28 AM ET

Prediction: correct Cormier   wrong KO/TKO   wrong Round 1  

Yeah but it's my word against your word. I say no chance back to you my friend!  We're at a stalemate!

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02.15.2013 | 9:10 AM ET

Prediction: correct Cormier   wrong KO/TKO   wrong Round 1  

I think Barnett was a tougher matchup for Cormier but I think Mir is a step up in terms of name value/rankings sake

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02.15.2013 | 1:46 PM ET

Mir has just fought for the title, Cant say i see Barnett doing that. 

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02.15.2013 | 2:02 PM ET

Prediction: correct Cormier   wrong KO/TKO   wrong Round 1  

The three guys Mir beat to get his title shot were Big Nog, Roy Nelson, and Mirko Cro Cop. I personally believe Barnett would beat all three of those guys. I also think Barnett would beat Mir at this point in their careers. 
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02.15.2013 | 2:27 PM ET

Prediction: correct Cormier   wrong KO/TKO   wrong Round 2  

That was the fight I wanted to see after SF folded. Barnett vs Mir. Would have been a dope fight, but now we're not even sure that Barnett will sign.
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02.15.2013 | 6:54 PM ET

Prediction: correct Cormier   wrong KO/TKO   wrong Round 2  

"Mir has just fought for the title, Cant say i see Barnett doing that."

Because Overeem failed a drug test and Mir was the only one on a win streak.


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02.16.2013 | 2:31 AM ET

Prediction: correct Cormier   wrong KO/TKO   wrong Round 1  

I wouldn't call Mir a step up or down vs Barnett. Barnett was consistently ranked as a top 5 heavyweight until his last suspension disqualified him from the rankings. He may not have faced the best since Pride closed shop, but he did win 8 in a row against some B-level guys. Mir was recently a champion, but his fights with Cro Cop and Big Country were nothing to write home about. I'd personally think that Mir vs Barnett would be a much closer contest than this one. Cormier will use the threat of takedowns to open up his punches. If he's smart he won't shoot until the last 20 seconds of a round so Mir has no time to work for submissions.

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02.16.2013 | 4:57 AM ET

@allhailkrull ... Thats a pretty stupid statement really. Frank Mir deserved to fight for the title.. He knocked Cro Cop the **** out (who had only lost 1 of his last 7 before that fight.) It wasn't a good fight but a great KO. He then completely dominated Big Country from bell to bell, who had only lost to JDS after winning tuf. I thought it was a great fight.. And then of course, he snapped Nogs arm.. he submitted Big Nog!!! Its not the best guys in the world but as you say no one deserved it more.. So he did deserve the title shot.

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02.16.2013 | 7:01 AM ET

Prediction: correct Cormier   wrong KO/TKO   wrong Round 2  

If Barnett was given that road to the title he most likely would have gotten the shot as well. 

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02.16.2013 | 7:11 AM ET

Prediction: correct Cormier   wrong KO/TKO   wrong Round 1  

@AllHailKrull Barnett winning against Crocop ? Sure...

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02.16.2013 | 7:43 AM ET

Prediction: correct Cormier   wrong KO/TKO   wrong Round 2  

last time Barnett fought an old shot rival.





To pretend that Cro Cop was anywhere near the level he was in Pride is ridiculous. Barnett would have steamrolled him.


Rampage beating Wanderei? never gonna happen..

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02.16.2013 | 7:56 AM ET

Prediction: correct Cormier   wrong KO/TKO   wrong Round 1  

@AllHailKrull so the gif is proof that Barnett would KO Crocop ? Sure...

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02.16.2013 | 8:00 AM ET

Prediction: correct Cormier   wrong KO/TKO   wrong Round 2  

It's absolutely a good representation of what time and mileage can do to a once great fighter.

I'm not sure you are smart enough to comprehend that though.


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