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Bellator 229: Koreshkov vs. Larkin

Bellator 229
  • Friday 10.04.2019 at 09:00 PM ET
  • U.S. Broadcast: Paramount Network
  • Promotion: Bellator MMA
  • Ownership: Bellator Sport Worldwide, LLC
  • Venue: Pechanga Resort & Casino
  • Location: Temecula, California, United States
  • Enclosure: Cage
  • TV Announcers: Mike Goldberg, John McCarthy
  • Ring Announcer: Michael C. Williams
  • Post-Fight Interviews: John McCarthy
  • Matchmaker: Rich Chou
  • MMA Bouts: 13
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Fight Card

Referees

  • Jason Herzog
    Wilson vs. Juarez (13)Eblen vs. Alonso (9)Awad vs. Yamauchi (5)Tokov vs. Darpinyan (2)
  • Frank Trigg
    Imhotep vs. Gentapanan (12)Davis vs. Peterson (8)Taylor-Melendez vs. Polk (4)
  • Mike Beltran
    Newman vs. Miller (11)Koreshkov vs. Larkin (6)
  • Michael Bell
    Tokov vs. Hastings (10)Altamimi vs. Mukhidinov (1)
  • Mark Smith
    Anderson vs. Bomba (7)Schilling vs. Johnson (3)

Event Discussion

ImperatorFishrat
ImperatorFishrat

10.05.2019 | 12:42 AM ET

@swain I've been doing a breakdown on the unified rules and the philosophy behind them the last week or so. I haven't gone through the reasoning of all the protocols, but the deeper you dig the murkier it gets. It's no wonder we get horrific decisions.

I can tell you 100% that the biggest problem is the weighting of damage--'immediate' damage, that is the kind of damage that visually appears to draw the fight closer to conclusion, basically determines the outcome of a fight in terms of scoring. That's literally how it is written, because this kind of damage must always take priority over cumulative damage, and more importantly no other consideration can be used to score a round if one fighter meets the main criteria of immediate damage.

Literally that means if a fighter gets badly rocked and survives in the first twenty seconds of a fight, then goes on to completely and convincingly win the round, they would still lose the round. That's actually how MMA is meant to be scored,  as the rules are written, and it's a woeful system.

Haven't got to effective grappling yet but what I can tell you is that this is still subservient to immediate damage...and because of that, the immediate damage rule favors submission grappling--not wrestling.Basically the only time grappling gets to the value of immediate damage is if someone is turning blue in the face.

* Edited at 10.05.2019, 12:43 AM ET *

loudenSwain
loudenSwain

10.05.2019 | 12:47 AM ET

Murky indeed

Gonna be tons of views, angles, qualifications and interpretations on damage, position and more. Do we (fans/refs and judges) even know or agree upon the difference between stalling or a stalemate..

Example in collegiate wrestling national tournament where a match got Calle dude to stalling:

https://mobile.twitter.com/flowrestling/status/1108774865182642176

* Edited at 10.05.2019, 1:09 AM ET *

ImperatorFishrat
ImperatorFishrat

10.05.2019 | 1:13 AM ET

It's definitely a ****show. I mean on one level I understand it. Like, in terms of damage, and what caused what to draw a fight closer to being finished, immediate damage. the stuff that causes people to do the funky chicken and start turning blue is the most observable. It's the strongest evidence.

That said, not everyone experiences, reacts, and recovers to damage the same. A flash KO does not lead a fight closer to a finish than accumulative damage--even body shots, a lot of the time. Same as how some people can stay in the sauna longer than others. If we all experienced and reacted to material phenomena the same we wouldn't be arguing over the temperature of the air conditioning.

I don't think there's an easy fix. We're gonna be crying robbery for many many years yet.

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