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Mikey1903
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09.26.2021 | 6:27 PM ET

Alright folks, 

As you might know I'm Tapology Boxing editor. I know the majority of you guys are here for MMA, so was I originally. But for the last year or 2 there is a little more interest in Boxing on the site. 

So here's a place to talk boxing. 

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11.08.2021 | 4:26 PM ET

Next weekend we have Crawford vs Porter. Anything good this weekend Mikey?

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11.08.2021 | 4:46 PM ET

With Trevor Wittman in the conversation of all time great MMA coaches who do you guys reckon is the "Trevor Wittman" of boxing coaches right now? As in a boxing coach that seemingly makes everybody's game better.

* Edited at 11.08.2021, 4:52 PM ET *

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11.08.2021 | 6:20 PM ET

@Joshjeffods 

I enjoyed the fight but I've certainly seen better. Having said that, I've certainly seen worse as well.

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11.08.2021 | 6:57 PM ET

Cool think I've been watching red for too long, honestly had GGG in one of those fights :<?
 

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11.08.2021 | 8:44 PM ET

Josh, I don't think that the Canelo fight was bad. It wasn't a classic, basically you're watching greatness. Canelo is just too good for his competition so what you get is his opponent trying to survive! The thrill of that fight for me was seeing if Canelo could get the finish!

But yeah, the UFC card was 100x better entertainment! It's all down to matchmaking and it's something I wish boxing would sort out. Make 50 /50 match ups on your undercard.  All you need to do is look at the betting odds and compare a boxing card to a UFC card. The biggest favourite on the UFC card is +350, whereas the boxing card is +2000 all the way up to +5000 favourites top to bottom! Usually the main event is the only competitive fight on a boxing card and sometimes even the main event is a squash match!!!!
It's so simple, competitive fights make for good fights. Good fights means good entertainment!!! 

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11.08.2021 | 9:06 PM ET

This weekends boxing

This weekend proves my point.
3 biggest shows, 2 on DAZN, 1 on Showtime.
1st DAZN card from Matchroom in Sheffield, England. Top 5 in the World Featherweight Kid Galahad defends his IBF World Title against 10 year past his best, lost everytime he's faced a good boxer, Kiko Martinez. There is no reason why Kiko should be fighting for a World Title! Galahad is going to easily win, no doubt, only question is if he stops him? I say yes!
The other DAZN card features 36-0, big puncher, all action, Mexican Jaime Munguia against Gabe Rosado. No disrespect to Rosado, he's a tough AF veteran, but he's going to get destroyed. Probably suffer a tonne of damage because he's too tough for his own good.
And Showtime has David Benavidez, 1 of my favourite young boxers, a guy who I really believe is a legitimate challenge for Canelo. He's really good!  His opponent Kyrone Davis is maybe in the top 50, MAYBE!!!???  Fair enough he's a late replacement but Uzcategui was going to get destroyed too!!!

That's 3 main events, 3 squash matches. Only question is can they all get Knockouts.

How hard is it to make competitive fights????? 

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11.08.2021 | 9:34 PM ET

Cool thanks Mikey I'll watch it again alone lol.

"“I took no damage,” Hill said. “Most of the fall was me falling down"

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11.09.2021 | 7:47 AM ET

@Mikey

Serrano is the co-main for Fury/Paul (ridiculous)?
 I'm looking forward to watching Amanda put on a show with her quirky but effective style.
If only they would give her (and others) the 3 minutes they're being denied!

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11.09.2021 | 11:31 AM ET

Yes she sure is. 1 thing I have to give credit to Paul for is his promotion of Amanda Serrano. She is a favourite of mine so I have to begrudgingly give him credit because he has helped bring her to the attention of a much wider audience than before.  
3 minute rounds are definitely needed in Female boxing but Serrano is 1 of the few women who it would not make much difference. She already knocks out most of her opposition!!!

They are going to sell her opponent, Gutierrez, as being Katie Taylor recent opponent, went the distance with her. But if you watched the fight Gutierrez got battered and would have been stopped multiple times if not for short rounds and Taylor not being a puncher. 
Serrano is going to destroy this poor girl, I'm almost guaranteeing a stoppage win!
Hopefully Serrano vs Katie Taylor happens next summer. I think Serrano wins that. The signs are looking good but in boxing the best fights are never straight forward to make!!! 

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11.09.2021 | 12:30 PM ET

@Mikey1903

From the relatively short time I've been casually following women's boxing one of the best things about it is that the best seem to fight the best more often than in the men's game. I might be wrong but it does seem like close and meaningful women's title fights seem to be more common.

And yes, we really need 3 minute rounds in women's boxing. 

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11.09.2021 | 2:06 PM ET

Yes, that's correct Stephen. The good thing about there being less big names is that in order to make the biggest pay days possible unifications happen way more often!
I think Lightweight, Super Welterweight, Welterweight are all Unified, Serrano has 3 of the 4 at Featherweight and Shields 3 of 4 at Super Middleweight.

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11.09.2021 | 2:07 PM ET

Rummys History Lesson!!!

Another interesting film from RummysCorner. On the most significant Heavyweight fights in each decade going back to 1890. There is some real rare historical footage

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11.09.2021 | 9:57 PM ET

@Cheeseball Under that criteria probably coach Robert Garcia. Marcos Maidana started the 2012 year on a loss, unable to get proper traction going again in his career he fired everyone in his stable and hired Garcia to coach him. Under Garcia he went on a 4 fight winning streak that included the upset win over p4p top boxer Broner and lost in a controversial decision to Floyd Mayweather. I scored the fight a draw,114-114, and this was the closest fight for Mayweather Jr outside of Castillo which was 14 years before the Maidana fight. Probably the craziest career resurgence outside of George Foreman. 

Garcia also did great work with Nonito Donaire, Mikey Garcia, Guzman, Brandon Rios. 

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11.09.2021 | 10:44 PM ET

That's a good choice. Its worth noting that Trevor Wittman was also a boxing coach so technically the correct answer to who is the "Trevor Wittman" of boxing is Trevor Wittman.

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11.11.2021 | 4:14 PM ET

Mikey, any good boxing this weekend. I'm taking 2 day off the gym because I work out too much, and I need something to do or I get bored, Help a brother out

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11.11.2021 | 6:55 PM ET

Kubrat Pulev did knock out Florian Benche in 2 rounds! What makes Florian Benche notable? He beat Janos Somogyi! OK, but what makes Janos Somogyi noteworthy I hear you ask? Well, he went and knocked out Miklos Toldi inside 2 rounds! Impressive, but what noteworthy name has Miklos Toldi beaten I hear you enquire? He famously knocked out Norbert Turanyi in the 3rd round of their legendary encounter! But come on, who has Norbert Turanyi beaten? You see, he out-pointed none other than Gabor Czinke! As for Gabor Czinke? Well, nothing yet but I'm sure his day will come!

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11.11.2021 | 7:12 PM ET

OK, you've convinced me. Clearly Pulev has an elite resume. Canelo who??? 

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11.11.2021 | 7:32 PM ET

Wrong thread. 

Maybe I'm the Donkey now!!!? 


* Edited at 11.11.2021, 7:33 PM ET *

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11.11.2021 | 7:51 PM ET

Oh, it's a donkey!




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11.11.2021 | 8:00 PM ET

@Mikey1903

Well, Canelo's record is an even deeper dive! You see, in Canelo's 8th pro fight, he knocked out Francisco Villanueva in the 5th. Francisco Villanueva famously out-pointed Jose Gerado Esquivel in a 10 round classic! Jose Gerado Esquivel had made a name for himself by knocking out Nicolas Lucio Arteaga in the 3rd round of a fight with and unknown and for all we know, possibly limitless number of rounds! Nicolas Lucio Arteaga himself once tasted success in a similar encounter by knocking out Gerado Gutierrez in the 7th round of a fight with no end in sight! Ironically, Gerado Gutierrez's debut was more well documented as he beat Ramon Sanchez over 4 rounds in his first outing. Ramon Sanchez then infamously out-boxed Jose Luis Montes in a 10 round encounter in a fight that possibly had spectators who were unrelated to either fighter. Jose Luis Montes's first taste of victory came against Simon Contreras in a slightly more understated 8 rounder back in 1989 (just to give you a sense of how far down the rabbit hole we've already travelled)! Simon Contreras then knocked out Juan Aguilar in the 3rd round of another fight with no specified end. Juan Aguilar's own career wasn't without it's highlights as he out-boxed Ricardo Ochoa to get the judges nods at the end of 4 rounds. Finally, Ricardo Ochoa knocked retired Ezequiel Ibarra in the 3rd round of their encounter. Poor old Ezequiel Ibarra never fought again after that devastating defeat in his debut but he can take pride in the fact that he will forever only be 10 fights removed from the P4P great Saul "Canelo" Alvarez!

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