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08.09.2019 | 1:14 PM ET

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Ruiz vs. Joshua 2
  • Saturday 12.07.2019 at 12:00 PM ET
  • U.S. Broadcast: DAZN
  • Promotion: Matchroom Boxing
  • Ownership: Matchroom Sport
  • Venue: Diriyah Arena
  • Location: Diriyah, Saudi Arabia
  • Enclosure: Ring
  • Boxing Bouts: 9
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Bout   Info
(Boxing)   Anthony Joshua  defeats  Andy Ruiz Jr. via Decision, Unanimous   12 Rounds, 36:00 Total Bout Page
(Boxing)   Alexander Povetkin  vs.  Michael Hunter Ends in a Draw, Split   12 Rounds, 36:00 Total Bout Page
(Boxing)   Filip Hrgovic  defeats  Eric Molina via KO/TKO   2:03 Round 3 of 10, 8:03 Total Bout Page
(Boxing)   Dillian Whyte  defeats  Mariusz Wach via Decision, Unanimous   10 Rounds, 30:00 Total Bout Page
(Boxing)   Mahammadrasul Majidov  defeats  Tom Little via KO/TKO   1:49 Round 2 of 8, 4:49 Total Bout Page
(Boxing)   Hopey Price  defeats  Swedi M Juma via KO/TKO   2:22 Round 3 of 4, 8:22 Total Bout Page
(Boxing)   Diego Pacheco  defeats  Selemani Saidi via KO/TKO   1:38 Round 1 of 8 Bout Page
(Boxing)   Zuhayr Al-Qahtani  defeats  Omar Dusary via Decision, Unanimous   8 Rounds, 24:00 Total Bout Page
(Boxing)   Majid Al-Naqbi  defeats  Ilia Beruashvili via KO/TKO   Round 3 of 4 Bout Page

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Mikey1903
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12.05.2019 | 10:54 PM ET

Predictions: 6 of 7 Winners, 0 Perfect, 360 Points   |   28th Place


I agree with you about Lewis always beating Tyson!  Maybe 21,22 year old Tyson, but even then I think Teddy Atlas is pretty spot on in his assessment of Tyson in that whenever he was forced into a fight he lost.  He was a specimen, maybe the most athletic freak ever in those years up until his early 20's.  Tyson is a weird 1 because he was so brutal but also showed weakness and lack of control.  Unless Tyson got inside and 1 punch KO'd Lewis he wouldn't win, Lewis ramrod jab would bust up and the overhand thudding rights would finish the job in the late to mid rounds, that's what I think anyway!

If Joshua couldn't take it he would've stayed on the floor against Klitschko or not got up 4x vs Ruiz don't you think?

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12.05.2019 | 11:04 PM ET

Predictions: 6 of 7 Winners, 0 Perfect, 360 Points   |   28th Place


Also, I am not backing Joshua because he is from the UK. I class myself as Scottish and have no loyalty to the Union, not in a real political way I just feel Scottish!  Joshua is a London/Nigerian! I don't really go for the supporting your hometown/countryman blindly, I mean I ******* can't stand Paul Craig or his ******** teammate :Bungard and they are about as stereotypical Scottish as you'll get in MMA for an example of  what I mean!  I just like who I like.

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12.05.2019 | 11:29 PM ET

Predictions: 5 of 7 Winners, 2 Perfect, 365 Points   |   Tied for 26th with 1 other

Well yeah, but he didn't really eat anything massive in either of those fights. I have seen HW's shrug off far more damaging shots....do see this, on the regular. In fact I've seen MW's absorb heavier shots. Ruiz isn't a big puncher...he's not even a true HW. He had 5 weeks of camp going in and wasn't supposed to be there anyway.He does have a vicious short left hook. I just don't think Joshua can absorb punches well. The difference between the Ruiz and Wlad fights is that Wlad backed off and Ruiz just poured on more.

That, and obligatory 'styles make fights'. Ruiz just has what Joshua can't deal with; fast hands, good pressure, great chin/ recovery, nasty, nasty short left hook. It's not like Joshua didn't try to hide behind his jab, either. He did. Ruiz just marched him down and forced him to trade in his distance. You can't win a fight with JUST a jab if the guy your fighting is willing to walk through it and beat you up, and Ruiz is simply faster in the phone booth--and Joshua doesn't seem to understand how to read hooks.

I do not like Joshua in the rematch. I think this fight will always be a battle of chins and Joshua will those that battle 7/10 times.

Not sure when it goes live for me, I'll try and watch while it's happening though.

* Edited at 12.05.2019, 11:30 PM ET *

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Mikey1903
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12.05.2019 | 11:37 PM ET

Predictions: 6 of 7 Winners, 0 Perfect, 360 Points   |   28th Place


We could go back on forth on this all day I'm sure bud! ha

But it is 4am so I need to sleep!!!

I know for sure that the Joshua Ruiz ring walks are starting at 9pm UK Time, so whatever the differrnce is for you that'll be it, I guess it'll be Sunday morning sometime?

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12.05.2019 | 11:40 PM ET

Predictions: 5 of 7 Winners, 2 Perfect, 365 Points   |   Tied for 26th with 1 other

night bud. Was hoping you were gonna be around for one. I've got serious MMA blueballs.
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Mikey1903
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12.05.2019 | 11:47 PM ET

Predictions: 6 of 7 Winners, 0 Perfect, 360 Points   |   28th Place


Haha, sorry my man, it is near 5am and I have to be up by 9am, I really need to get a few hours or I'll be ****** all day!  
No doubt I'll get a talk/debate with you soon enough!

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12.06.2019 | 12:51 PM ET

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Predictions: 6 of 7 Winners, 2 Perfect, 405 Points   |   Tied for 2nd with 4 others

Ruiz Jr. vs. Joshua
Anthony Joshua, DEC
This Fight has racked my brain sooooo ******* badly, I've gotta headache from the brain overload. I was initially backing Ruiz for the win, again. By KO, again. But Ruiz was supposed to be stripping WEIGHT, but instead, weighed in at a huuuuuge 283lbs. Like 15lbs more than in the 1st fight, while Joshua shed 10+lbs and weighed-in at 237lbs. Annnd that's problematic for me. Ruiz absolutely could crack Joshua again. Because I don't consider his win "a fluke" like everyone's been *****ing about. A fluke happens once. He caught AJ how many times? 4x? 4 times is a fluke? Noooope. My ONLY question is, did Joshua work on his game enough to fix the flaws? If he did, it should be an easy night at the office. You don't win an Olympic gold medal if you're an incompetent dumbass and lack the heart & mind to adjust and adapt to get better. I honestly feel that Joshua is going to play it safe and smart by staying behind the jab & working on the outside and making it a boxing match for 12 full rounds. I just can't see him getting emotional or over-confident again and getting into another firefight, especially when it didn't work out so well the first time? I hate saying it, but Joshua by decision is my pick. As of RIGHT NOW.

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12.06.2019 | 1:20 PM ET

Predictions: 6 of 7 Winners, 0 Perfect, 360 Points   |   28th Place


I just seen that weight bud! 280+lbs!!!!  Over 20lbs more than last time!  So much for Ruiz coming in a little leaner and in better shape.  Of course I wasn't expecting a 6-pack, a 2 pack even!!!  But for him to so much heavier!? That doesn't seem like it will help Ruiz, it makes me think there is a lot more truth behind the stories of Ruiz living it up since making that massive payday!  It's a common thing with fighters who, for the most part, come from poor, working class upbringings and even as they work their way up the ranks they are living pay cheque to pay cheque.  Then all of a sudden, BOOM! here's £10 million!  And they spend, they spend BIG!!! Its no secret that Ruiz bought a mansion(not so bad) but a lot of BLING!!!! and the parties!
Maybe the weigh in means nothing, but I'm reading that into it.
Joshua looks less bulky, which I feel is a good thing.  He says he has cut out the weights and all his training has been boxing, sparring, pads, mitts, bag.  That's a great thing!  
I'm a bit more confident now!

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12.06.2019 | 1:21 PM ET

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Predictions: 6 of 7 Winners, 2 Perfect, 405 Points   |   Tied for 2nd with 4 others

Povetkin vs. Hunter
Michael Hunter, DEC
I see this as Michael Hunter's coming out party. The guy's got the talent to beat a declining (IMO) Povetkin. His lone loss, was to Oleksandr Usyk, and he was one of like 3 guys, that wasn't KO'd by Usyk. That to me, shows some level of skill, because Usyk is a ****-king nightmare of a matchup.

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12.06.2019 | 1:24 PM ET

Predictions: 5 of 7 Winners, 2 Perfect, 355 Points   |   30th Place

Fat overweight Mexicans is a theme today.... Eh calvillo?
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12.06.2019 | 1:27 PM ET

Predictions: 6 of 7 Winners, 2 Perfect, 405 Points   |   Tied for 2nd with 4 others

@Mikey.. You and I think a lot alike. You're looking at Ruiz's weight like i am. That weigh-in completely changed my pick

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12.06.2019 | 1:34 PM ET

Predictions: 6 of 7 Winners, 2 Perfect, 405 Points   |   Tied for 2nd with 4 others

Calvillo miss weight tooo!? ***! That makes that comment even better @freemoney

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12.06.2019 | 1:36 PM ET

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Predictions: 5 of 7 Winners, 2 Perfect, 355 Points   |   30th Place

Pacheco vs. Saidi
Diego Pacheco, TKO, R6
******* little punk

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12.06.2019 | 1:43 PM ET

Predictions: 5 of 7 Winners, 2 Perfect, 355 Points   |   30th Place

@brad she missed by over 4 pounds and Ladd looked like she was struggling again
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12.06.2019 | 1:59 PM ET

Predictions: 6 of 7 Winners, 0 Perfect, 360 Points   |   28th Place

Is the Calvillo fight still on? 4 pounds is a big miss, 5lbs away from being a weight class up!

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12.06.2019 | 2:01 PM ET

Predictions: 6 of 7 Winners, 0 Perfect, 360 Points   |   28th Place

Brad, I already was backing Joshua.  I wasn't super confident tho, around 60/40... The weigh in has made me a little more confident in my choice!

* Edited at 12.06.2019, 2:02 PM ET *

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12.06.2019 | 2:03 PM ET

Predictions: 5 of 7 Winners, 2 Perfect, 355 Points   |   30th Place

Still on far as I know.
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12.06.2019 | 2:07 PM ET

Predictions: 5 of 7 Winners, 2 Perfect, 355 Points   |   30th Place

I think Ruiz was a big fluke! Joshua probably only fought Ruiz as a warm up for wilder. Too see if he could avoid taking any big shots. Cause if you can't avoid a big shot from Ruiz then u can't from wilder.
I say Joshua wins easy tomorrow but can't see him beating wilder or fury.
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12.06.2019 | 2:22 PM ET

Predictions: 6 of 7 Winners, 2 Perfect, 380 Points   |   Tied for 12th with 6 others

@free

If Joshua defeats Ruiz, he'll never fight Wilder unless it's a mandatory defense.
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12.06.2019 | 2:29 PM ET

Predictions: 5 of 7 Winners, 2 Perfect, 355 Points   |   30th Place

@tepid have u ever harmed or by way of inaction allowed to be harmed a human being?

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