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08.09.2019 | 1:14 PM ET

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Ruiz vs. Joshua 2
  • Saturday 12.07.2019 at 12:00 PM ET
  • U.S. Broadcast: DAZN
  • Promotion: Matchroom Boxing
  • Ownership: Matchroom Sport
  • Venue: Diriyah Arena
  • Location: Diriyah, Saudi Arabia
  • Enclosure: Ring
  • Boxing Bouts: 9
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Bout   Info
(Boxing)   Anthony Joshua  defeats  Andy Ruiz Jr. via Decision, Unanimous   12 Rounds, 36:00 Total Bout Page
(Boxing)   Alexander Povetkin  vs.  Michael Hunter Ends in a Draw, Split   12 Rounds, 36:00 Total Bout Page
(Boxing)   Filip Hrgovic  defeats  Eric Molina via KO/TKO   2:03 Round 3 of 10, 8:03 Total Bout Page
(Boxing)   Dillian Whyte  defeats  Mariusz Wach via Decision, Unanimous   10 Rounds, 30:00 Total Bout Page
(Boxing)   Mahammadrasul Majidov  defeats  Tom Little via KO/TKO   1:49 Round 2 of 8, 4:49 Total Bout Page
(Boxing)   Hopey Price  defeats  Swedi M Juma via KO/TKO   2:22 Round 3 of 4, 8:22 Total Bout Page
(Boxing)   Diego Pacheco  defeats  Selemani Saidi via KO/TKO   1:38 Round 1 of 8 Bout Page
(Boxing)   Zuhayr Al-Qahtani  defeats  Omar Dusary via Decision, Unanimous   8 Rounds, 24:00 Total Bout Page
(Boxing)   Majid Al-Naqbi  defeats  Ilia Beruashvili via KO/TKO   Round 3 of 4 Bout Page

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11.18.2019 | 1:10 AM ET

Predictions: 5 of 7 Winners, 2 Perfect, 365 Points   |   Tied for 26th with 1 other

@Brad I honestly see Joshua getting put out early. Every time he's been caught and wobbled/finished it's happened in the first half of the fight. Wilder just needs one. He's the best HW pucnher we've seen in a long time by my estimations, and I was surprised at how much he'd classed up his boxing in the Fury fight. 

Tyson turned  up in that, too...I still think he won the fight. Anyone who thinks that Joshua has more of a chance at not getting landed on hard than Fury is deluded. We're talking about a guy who got smashed by Ruiz. I'm not shading Ruiz, I like him and he's an animal but a classy boxer he is not. He's brawly as ****.

You know who's better defensively than Joshua? Louis Ortiz. 100%. Great cuban style boxer, underrated. Yeah he was no spring chicken when Wilder fought him, but he was in great nick for that fight, and fought really well. And look how that turned out.

To believe that Joshua can beat Wilder, it would require me to believe that somehow he's got a better chance of not getting laced than two other fighters that Wilder has caught, that are  both defensively superior to him in two completely different styles, and who have displayed better durability. 

And I do not believe that.

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11.18.2019 | 1:31 AM ET

Predictions: 6 of 7 Winners, 2 Perfect, 405 Points   |   Tied for 2nd with 4 others

Oh absolutely Luis Ortiz is underrated. Annnd I think the 2nd fight between Wilder and Ortiz will be even better than the 1st. From what I've been seeing, Ortiz moved his camp to Vegas I think they said, he's got a nutritionist and he's actually been eating for performance instead of pleasure. They got him working hard on his cardio. It's gonna be another fantastic fight. Wilder. Maaaan. There's nothing to be said that you don't already know. Ya know what i mean

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11.18.2019 | 1:06 PM ET

Predictions: 6 of 7 Winners, 1 Perfect, 370 Points   |   Tied for 20th with 3 others


It's going to have to be No more Mr Nice Guy for AJ
He has 1 job too do, 
He completely overlooked Ruiz and Ruiz came to Win 
Now look where we are..

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2019.11.29 12:21 AM ET

bout status update

Quigg vs. Carroll Changed from Confirmed to Cancelled
2019.11.29 12:22 AM ET

bout announced

Dillian Whyte vs. Mariusz Wach
2019.11.29 12:22 AM ET

bout announced

Mahammadrasul Majidov vs. Tom Little
2019.11.29 12:25 AM ET

bout announced

Hopey Price vs. Swedi M Juma
2019.11.29 12:25 AM ET

bout announced

Diego Pacheco vs. Levan Shonia
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12.02.2019 | 8:09 AM ET

Predictions: 6 of 7 Winners, 0 Perfect, 360 Points   |   28th Place


I love how this card has turned into a Heavyweight special!!!  Obviously the main event is the fight everyone is talking about but there is a lot of interest for me on the undercard.
Dillian Whyte has been a favourite of mine since his classic British heavyweight scrap with Joshua in 2016.  Still don't know what that shady **** with the "failed test" is all about???  Nothing at all has been said to properly explain the situation, he is just back fighting!!  Oh well then, hopefully he finally gets the World title fight he deserves after being no.1 contender to Wilders WBC belt for almost 3 years!!!  JOKE!
2 Heavyweight prospects.  Out of Dubios, Yoka, Ajagba and some other future contenders Filip Hrgovic is the guy who I think has the most potential to be Champ.  He kinda reminds me of the Klitschko brothers, a mix of the 2.  He has all the technique and the jab of Wlad along with the nastiness of Vitali!  Watch out for this guy!
the other Heavyweight is Majridov, only his 2nd pro fight but he has, like all these Russians! an extensive and excellent amateur pedigree.  Interestingly he has a win over Joshua from a European Amateur Championships.  No doubt if he strings together a few wins that will be his way of angling a fight with Joshua in the future.

Outside the big men there's 2 decent prospects. Hopey price is the 1st Brit to ever win a Gold medal at the Youth Olympics and he has potential.  More exciting is Diego Pacheco who is 1 of those tall, skinny, wirey punchers!!!

Should be a few more fights added to the undercard, but, as seems to happen a lot with boxing, the fights won't be announced till last minute!

Looking forward to this card.  I'm rooting for Joshua to win his belts back.  Let's be honest fights between Joshua and Wilder or Fury are more exciting than if Ruiz wins!!!  I am kinda convincing myself that Ruiz had his Buster Douglas moment!  That 1 massive upset win outta nowhere then he loses his next fight and becomes the answer to a trivia question in years to come!

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12.02.2019 | 12:43 PM ET

Predictions: 5 of 7 Winners, 2 Perfect, 355 Points   |   30th Place

@mikey I couldn't agree more with the buster Douglas part.
2019.12.03 9:17 AM ET

bout status update

Pacheco vs. Shonia Changed from Confirmed to Cancelled
2019.12.03 9:19 AM ET

bout announced

Diego Pacheco vs. Selemani Saidi
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12.05.2019 | 10:45 AM ET

Prediction Comments

Predictions: 6 of 7 Winners, 0 Perfect, 360 Points   |   28th Place

Hrgovic vs. Molina
Filip Hrgovic, TKO, R2
Hrgovic is my tip for future World Champion. I see nothing but great things from him, The Rio 2016 Olympics Heavyweight medalists are Tony Yoka, Joe Joyce and Hrgovic, not a bad lot!!

Whyte vs. Wach
Dillian Whyte, TKO, R3
Good to see Dillian back after that strange UKAD issue, still nobody knows what the issue was or is? Very mysterious! But Whyte is a good guy and I think the main dangerman of the non Champions. He should've fought Wilder a year or 2 ago!!!

Majidov vs. Little
Mahammadrasul Majidov, DEC
Majidov has an amateur win over Joshua. Could be a potential fight in the future. As with all Russians it seems, Majidov has a vast amateur record! Tom Little is better than his 10-7 record suggests as he has fought good competition on short notice regularly, he is a Gypsy boxing champion too, whatever that counts for!!! Maybe tough to finish

Price vs. Mohamed
Ivan Hopey Price, TKO, R2
Hopey Price is UK's 1st ever Youth Olympic Gold medalist. He is a bit of a puncher. Plus he has over 6" on his opponent! I expect a TKO

Pacheco vs. Saidi
Diego Pacheco, TKO, R1
Pacheco is an exciting prospect, Matchroom have a few with Ababiy, Ammo Williams, Otha Jones. They are all good, but I like Pacheco and Williams the most at the moment. Pacheco is 1 of those tall, skinny, wirey guys with power that doesn't make sense!

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12.05.2019 | 10:48 AM ET

Predictions: 6 of 7 Winners, 0 Perfect, 360 Points   |   28th Place

A bit disappointed Pacheco opponent changed last minute.  The guy he was originally slated to fight, Levan Shonia, went viral a year ago when he attacked his trainer after a bad performance on the Pulev v Hughie Fury card in Bulgaria.  It was pretty funny, not for the trainer tho! Look it up if you want a laugh!

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12.05.2019 | 4:02 PM ET

Predictions: 5 of 7 Winners, 0 Perfect, 295 Points   |   Tied for 58th

@tepid, man Wilder smokes Joshua hardcore not a single doubt in my sharky head !!! That's not even a hard one to guess...

I love the mexican destroyer Andy Ruiz!!! He got his nickname way back when he was just a boy wrecking his toys xD , he's going to repeat the "upset", sharky ways sharky ways

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12.05.2019 | 4:10 PM ET

Predictions: 6 of 7 Winners, 2 Perfect, 405 Points   |   Tied for 2nd with 4 others

I agree. Joshua's defense isn't good enough. Wilder will embarass him worse than Ruiz

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12.05.2019 | 4:26 PM ET

Predictions: 6 of 7 Winners, 2 Perfect, 380 Points   |   Tied for 12th with 6 others

@Rombu

Anthony Joshua's technical boxing is superior to just about any American heavyweight.
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12.05.2019 | 4:30 PM ET

Predictions: 5 of 7 Winners, 0 Perfect, 295 Points   |   Tied for 58th

@tepid, naa man Joshua isn't anything special compared to Wilder, Ruiz or Fury, they all in my sharky opinion smooooooke that guy and make it look easy

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12.05.2019 | 4:36 PM ET

Predictions: 6 of 7 Winners, 2 Perfect, 380 Points   |   Tied for 12th with 6 others

I think Tyson Fury has the best chance to defeat Joshua, but if Wilder nearly KO'ed him, what would Joshua do to him?
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12.05.2019 | 5:04 PM ET

Predictions: 5 of 7 Winners, 2 Perfect, 365 Points   |   Tied for 26th with 1 other

Tepid you are one of the silliest Bots I've ever seen. Not are you actually suggesting that Joshua has a better chance of beating Fury than Wilder (he doesn't, that's an easy style for Fury and he wins that bout 9/10 times) but you're also suggesting that Joshua hits harder than Wilder which is just straight up ****-in-the-ear ********.

Jesus ******* christ. Get a grip. Joshua isn't technical at all; he's got a jab and a check hook. That's literally it. He spams it over and over and over. I don't even think he won that Olympic medal. Go watch that fight and tell me he did. Joshua isn't that good. He's not what you thought he was. After Ruiz smokes him again you'll have no choice but to accept reality.

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12.05.2019 | 5:56 PM ET

Predictions: 6 of 7 Winners, 2 Perfect, 380 Points   |   Tied for 12th with 6 others

Anthony Joshua won a gold medal at the Olympics, and Deontay Wilder won a bronze medal, gold is better than bronze, I rest my case.
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12.05.2019 | 6:15 PM ET

Predictions: 6 of 7 Winners, 0 Perfect, 360 Points   |   28th Place


I} hate to sound like I'm sticking up for Tepid, I'm still pissed he had me defending ******* Colby Covington!!! But Joshua isn't garbage!!!!  
It's ok for you to prefer 1 guy without the other being trash! lol
They are all good in their own way, and bad! They all have strengths and weaknesses, 
I think and hope Joshua wins on Saturday as him vs Wilder and Fury is a hell of a lot more interesting to me than Ruiz.  

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12.05.2019 | 6:43 PM ET

Predictions: 5 of 7 Winners, 2 Perfect, 365 Points   |   Tied for 26th with 1 other

Mikey he's a UK guy. I get that, and I get why you back him to win for that reason. But he's really nothing special. I'm not saying Wilder is a good boxer. He isn't. He IS a special puncher though, which makes him better than Joshua who really isn't standout at anything. As I have said before we're living in a dismal age of HW's. I have absolutely no doubt that Prime Lennox Lewis would have destroyed Wilder, Joshua, and whyte all on the same night.

On another note, I don't like Joshua's body language at all leading up to the Ruiz rematch and I think cutting weight to be lighter on the night is an absolutely ******* terrible idea...he's just not going to be faster than Ruiz in the pocket, ever. All cutting more weight will do is make him more prone to being KO'ed. He can beat Ruiz. The gameplan isn't hard to figure out; trot around jabbing the **** out of him and when he swarms tie him up and force a reset. It will make for a ****** ass boring fight but that's how to do it.

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12.05.2019 | 7:02 PM ET

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Predictions: 5 of 7 Winners, 0 Perfect, 295 Points   |   Tied for 58th

Andy Ruiz takes this one again

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12.05.2019 | 10:12 PM ET

Predictions: 6 of 7 Winners, 0 Perfect, 360 Points   |   28th Place

Maybes aye maybes naw!!!
Who knows bud?  I do think you guys are writing Joshua off after 1 loss.  I guarantee that you all had a much better opinion of him before the Ruiz fight? It's a common thing to look at a fighters last performance instead of his whole career.  Any way, I respectfully disagree with you Fish, Joshua isn t over rated and, as I've said to you before, I think this generation of heavys is pretty good IMO, definitely the best its been since the 90's.
But we all have our opinions, I ain't trying to change anyone's. Beauty of it is at around 9.30pm UK time we will all know and I will be here to gloat a little!!! Haha

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12.05.2019 | 10:16 PM ET

Predictions: 6 of 7 Winners, 0 Perfect, 360 Points   |   28th Place

I ******* love Lennox Lewis, I rate him as a top 10, maybe 5 all time Heavyweight.  But remember him being 1 punch KO'd by Hasim Rahman and Oliver McCall in a much more devastating fashion than Joshua was. People wrote him off and what did he do?  He avenged both losses and went on to become who he did. 
Losses can make great fighters even greater. That is what I am predicting, I hope!!!

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12.05.2019 | 10:30 PM ET

Predictions: 5 of 7 Winners, 2 Perfect, 365 Points   |   Tied for 26th with 1 other

Everybody disagrees with me but I honestly don't think Tyson would have ever beaten Lewis. Like, at no point in his career would he have done that IMO.

I won't be surprised if Joshua wins the rematch because although I like Ruiz he's brawly as **** and isn't long for the crown. However What happened wasn't luck....I have a feeling that Joshua can give it but not take it. He nearly got slept in the klitschko fight let's not forget. Ruiz is a lug. He can take a shot. That said I am pretty sure Joshua will be running around the ring all night flicking jabs....no way he gets into another firefight.

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