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12.10.2021 | 12:17 AM ET

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Thurman vs. Barrios
  • Saturday 02.05.2022 at 10:00 PM ET
  • U.S. Broadcast: Pay Per View | Prelims: FOX
  • Promotion: TGB Promotions
  • Ownership: Tom Brown
  • Venue: Michelob Ultra Arena
  • Location: Las Vegas, Nevada
  • Enclosure: Ring
  • Ring Announcer: Jimmy Lennon Jr
  • Matchmaker: Tom Brown
  • Boxing Bouts: 11
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Bout   Info
(Boxing)   Keith Thurman  defeats  Mario Barrios via Decision, Unanimous   12 Rounds, 36:00 Total Bout Page
(Boxing)   Leo Santa Cruz  defeats  Keenan Carbajal via Decision, Unanimous   10 Rounds, 30:00 Total Bout Page
(Boxing)   Luis Nery  defeats  Carlos Castro via Decision, Split   10 Rounds, 30:00 Total Bout Page
(Boxing)   Jesus Ramos  defeats  Vladimir Hernandez via KO/TKO   2:21 Round 6/10, 17:21 Total Bout Page
(Boxing)   Luke SantaMaria  defeats  Abel Ramos via Decision, Unanimous   10 Rounds, 30:00 Total Bout Page
(Boxing)   Kent Cruz  vs.  Enriko Gogokhia Ends in a Draw, Split   8 Rounds, 24:00 Total Bout Page
(Boxing)   Fernando Vargas Jr  defeats  Kody Kobowski via KO/TKO   3:00 Round 3 of 4, 9:00 Total Bout Page
(Boxing)   Omar Juarez  defeats  Ryan Karl via Decision, Split   10 Rounds, 30:00 Total Bout Page
(Boxing)   Keith Hunter  defeats  Jesus Silveyra via KO/TKO, Cut Stoppage   1:42 Round 1 of 8 Bout Page
(Boxing)   John Rincon  defeats  Ramon Marquez via Decision, Unanimous   6 Rounds, 18:00 Total Bout Page
(Boxing)   Anthony Cuba  defeats  Malverde Gonzalez via KO/TKO   1:50 Round 1 of 4 Bout Page

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2021.12.10 12:18 AM ET

bout announced

Keith Thurman vs. Mario Barrios
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12.17.2021 | 1:17 PM ET

Predictions: 8 of 11 Winners, 5 Perfect, 540 Points   |   Tied for 19th with 10 others

@Mikey1903 Who takes this one?

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12.19.2021 | 2:34 AM ET

There better be one hell of an undercard for this to warrant PPV status
2021.12.19 8:41 PM ET

event start time updated

From Saturday, January 29 at 10:00pm ET to Saturday, February 5 at 10:00pm ET
2021.12.19 8:42 PM ET

bout announced

Leo Santa Cruz vs. Keenan Carbajal
2021.12.19 8:42 PM ET

bout announced

Abel Ramos vs. Josesito Lopez
2021.12.19 8:43 PM ET

bout announced

Luis Nery vs. Carlos Castro
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12.30.2021 | 12:21 PM ET

Predictions: 8 of 11 Winners, 6 Perfect, 590 Points   |   Tied for 7th with 1 other

Wasteland bud. Its not important who I think wins the fight. Who do YOU think wins the fight!! 

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12.30.2021 | 12:54 PM ET

Predictions: 8 of 11 Winners, 5 Perfect, 540 Points   |   Tied for 19th with 10 others

I am but a lowly wretch who does not know the ways of Pro Boxin'

* Edited at 12.30.2021, 4:49 PM ET *

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12.30.2021 | 1:09 PM ET

Predictions: 8 of 11 Winners, 6 Perfect, 590 Points   |   Tied for 7th with 1 other

Now now, don't put yourself down young man, I'm sure you can learn the way of de Boxeo! 

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12.30.2021 | 4:52 PM ET

Predictions: 8 of 11 Winners, 5 Perfect, 540 Points   |   Tied for 19th with 10 others

Well I was once told by a coach at a local Boxin' Club (who got 3rd place at European Championships for amateurs in the late 70s or early 80s) that the most important thing in Boxin' these days is stamina and conditioning, back in his day it was technique first, but yeah he stressed the importance of conditioning and stated it is the key factor

* Edited at 12.30.2021, 5:01 PM ET *

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2022.01.05 2:26 PM ET

bout rumored

Jesus Ramos vs. Vladimir Hernandez
2022.01.25 4:39 AM ET

bout announced

Kent Cruz vs. Enriko Gogokhia
2022.01.25 4:40 AM ET

bout announced

Fernando Vargas Jr vs. Kody Kobowski
2022.01.30 12:08 PM ET

bout status update

Ramos vs. Lopez Changed from Confirmed to Cancelled
2022.01.30 12:09 PM ET

bout announced

Abel Ramos vs. Luke SantaMaria
2022.01.31 12:22 PM ET

bout announced

Ryan Karl vs. Omar Juarez
2022.01.31 11:09 PM ET

bout status update

Ramos vs. Hernandez Changed from Rumored to Confirmed
2022.02.02 7:27 PM ET

bout announced

Jesus Silveyra vs. Keith Hunter
2022.02.02 7:29 PM ET

bout announced

Jabril Noble vs. Amado Vargas
2022.02.02 7:31 PM ET

bout announced

Ramon Marquez vs. John Rincon
2022.02.02 7:36 PM ET

bout announced

Malverde Gonzalez vs. Anthony Cuba
2022.02.04 8:10 PM ET

weigh-in result

Fernando Vargas Jr: 156.5 lbs (71.0 kgs)
2022.02.04 8:10 PM ET

weigh-in result

Kody Kobowski: 155.0 lbs (70.3 kgs)
2022.02.04 8:11 PM ET

weigh-in result

Ryan Karl: 145.5 lbs (66.0 kgs)
2022.02.04 8:11 PM ET

weigh-in result

Omar Juarez: 141.5 lbs (64.2 kgs)
2022.02.04 8:12 PM ET

weigh-in result

Abel Ramos: 145.0 lbs (65.8 kgs)
2022.02.04 8:12 PM ET

weigh-in result

Luke SantaMaria: 145.5 lbs (66.0 kgs)
2022.02.04 8:13 PM ET

weigh-in result

Luis Nery: 121.8 lbs (55.2 kgs)
2022.02.04 8:13 PM ET

weigh-in result

Carlos Castro: 121.5 lbs (55.1 kgs)
2022.02.04 8:14 PM ET

weigh-in result

Jesus Ramos: 152.5 lbs (69.2 kgs)
2022.02.04 8:14 PM ET

weigh-in result

Vladimir Hernandez: 153.5 lbs (69.6 kgs)
2022.02.04 8:14 PM ET

weigh-in result

Leo Santa Cruz: 128.8 lbs (58.4 kgs)
2022.02.04 8:14 PM ET

weigh-in result

Keenan Carbajal: 129.0 lbs (58.5 kgs)
2022.02.04 8:15 PM ET

weigh-in result

Keith Thurman: 145.5 lbs (66.0 kgs)
2022.02.04 8:15 PM ET

weigh-in result

Mario Barrios: 146.5 lbs (66.5 kgs)
2022.02.04 8:22 PM ET

weigh-in result

Malverde Gonzalez: 132.0 lbs (59.9 kgs)
2022.02.04 8:22 PM ET

weigh-in result

Anthony Cuba: 133.0 lbs (60.3 kgs)
2022.02.04 8:22 PM ET

weigh-in result

Ramon Marquez: 146.5 lbs (66.5 kgs)
2022.02.04 8:22 PM ET

weigh-in result

John Rincon: 145.3 lbs (65.9 kgs)
2022.02.04 8:23 PM ET

weigh-in result

Kent Cruz: 142.5 lbs (64.6 kgs)
2022.02.04 8:23 PM ET

weigh-in result

Enriko Gogokhia: 141.8 lbs (64.3 kgs)
2022.02.04 8:24 PM ET

weigh-in result

Jesus Silveyra: 142.0 lbs (64.4 kgs)
2022.02.04 8:24 PM ET

weigh-in result

Keith Hunter: 138.0 lbs (62.6 kgs)
2022.02.04 8:24 PM ET

bout status update

Noble vs. Vargas Changed from Confirmed to Fizzled
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02.04.2022 | 9:01 PM ET

Prediction Comments

Predictions: 8 of 11 Winners, 6 Perfect, 575 Points   |   Tied for 9th with 2 others

Thurman vs. Barrios
Keith Thurman, DEC
Mario Barrios suffered an absolutely brutal KO last time against Gervonta Davis, the type that can change a fighter and I'm not sure he'd have fully recovered from that enough to take on someone of Keith Thurman's calibre.

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02.04.2022 | 9:12 PM ET

Predictions: 8 of 11 Winners, 6 Perfect, 590 Points   |   Tied for 7th with 1 other

I think that you're getting mixed up with Leo Santa Cruz bud?
Tank did TKO Barrios, but it was a body shot and more of an accumulation type TKO. 
Leo Santa Cruz had his head sent into orbit by a brutal uppercut that Insta slept him and he didn't move for 5 minutes!

Is that what you're thinking of? 

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02.04.2022 | 9:27 PM ET

Predictions: 8 of 11 Winners, 6 Perfect, 575 Points   |   Tied for 9th with 2 others

@Mikey1903

Yeah you're right, I'm mistaken. It was the brutal uppercut, straight KO one I was thinking of. I saw on his record that he got KO'd by Tank and just assumed that was him. 

If you ask a casual at about half 2 in the morning who the latest guy Gervonta Davis ****** up was, you're gonna get these sort of answers lol!

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02.04.2022 | 9:35 PM ET

Predictions: 8 of 11 Winners, 6 Perfect, 590 Points   |   Tied for 7th with 1 other


No worries mate, easy mistake! They both look similar too, Barrios and Cruz, both tall, skinny lanky (compared to Tank!) Mexicans with the slick back Black hair style 

The KO is always worth another watch!!!



you said you're worried about how Barrios will come back applies to Santa Cruz, that was a career changer. Especially for a guy with a near 20 year career! Possibly an upset on the cards? 

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02.04.2022 | 9:44 PM ET

Predictions: 8 of 11 Winners, 6 Perfect, 575 Points   |   Tied for 9th with 2 others

@Mikey1903

Well if it was Leo Santa Cruz VS Keith Thurman then my same reasoning would apply but now that I know it wasn't, that opinion no longer stands as it was based on faulty knowledge. My new opinion on the Thurman VS Barrios fight? No ******* clue but my gut feeling is that Thurman is slightly better so I'll just stick with that pick. As for my opinion on the Santa Cruz VS Carbajal fight? Again, no clue but I like Santa Cruz more so I'll just stick with him and hope that maybe that punch wasn't as devastating as it looked.

EDIT: Ignore all that **** I just said. I've just watched that KO again and HOLY **** that was somehow even worse than I remembered! Maybe I should reconsider my pick. Oh **** it, I'll leave it! Anything can happen in boxing and as I said, I like Santa Cruz more. But Jeez, that uppercut was lethal!

* Edited at 02.04.2022, 9:48 PM ET *

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02.04.2022 | 9:57 PM ET

Predictions: 8 of 11 Winners, 6 Perfect, 590 Points   |   Tied for 7th with 1 other

Yeah Santa Cruz is being set up to win here. Hence he's a - 1400 favourite! But, he started at - 2000, so obviously some people are remembering just how bad that KO was!

As for Thurman Barrios, I think it's going to be close. The Bookies agree, with - 200 +150, close for Boxing!
If it was 5 years ago I'd have Thurman all day, he was the no 1 Welterweight around. But he's fought like x2 since, has had a tonne of injuries, major shoulder and hand surgery. Lotta red flags, especially after just watching a similar thing last weekend with Gary Russell Jr I'm thinking about taking the younger fresher fighter. It's a close call tho

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02.05.2022 | 11:44 AM ET

Prediction Comments

Predictions: 8 of 11 Winners, 6 Perfect, 590 Points   |   Tied for 7th with 1 other

Vargas Jr vs. Kobowski
Fernando Vargas Jr, TKO, R1
Remember Fernando Vargas??/ He had some amazing wars vs Tito Trinidad and Oscar del a Hoya in the early 2000s and was an amazing action fighter! Well this is his son, his other son was meant to be on the card to but something happened, not sure? His kids are definetly his kids!! They are gonna be entertaining fighters for the next few years and involved ion some action fights!

Karl vs. Juarez
Ryan Karl, DEC
Another close fight here! Cowboy Karl has fought and beaten better opposotion. Juarez last time vs a kinda step up , 20-4 All Rivera, he was beaten badly! Not sure how I feel abour Juarez after that? He is the younger prospect, meant to win, but Karl is a PBC fighter too. Thinking the Cowboy gonna beat Juarez again

Silveyra vs. Hunter
Keith Hunter, DEC
Possible upset here! Hunter is coming off a loss vs a similar Mexican he was meant to beat. Silverya is 1 of those famous Mexican bangers with the funky ass record! That you have to be weary of! He is coming off some good wins vs similar prospects who were meant to beat him. May happen again here? I'm taking Hunter, just saying I'm not confident

* Edited at 02.05.2022, 1:14 PM ET *

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02.05.2022 | 12:15 PM ET

Prediction Comments

Predictions: 8 of 11 Winners, 6 Perfect, 590 Points   |   Tied for 7th with 1 other

Thurman vs. Barrios
Mario Barrios, DEC
Man, I used to really rate Thurman! he was the guy at Welterwweight! But 2 fights in 5 years, injuries, major surgeries! ****, it's hard to trust he is the same guy. Barrios isn't special, he's good, but Thurman was elite, Barrios has never been near that level. Still, he has the youth, the f

Nery vs. Castro
Carlos Castro, TKO, R9
Nery used to be the scary guy in the lower weight classes, key words "used to be". Castro is a slight underdog but I like him to outland, outwork and maybe even get a late round TKO stoppage. Body work will be the key IMO.

Ramos vs. Hernandez
Jesus Ramos, DEC
Dont let Hernandez fool you, he just beat recent unified 154 World Champ Julian Williams and Alfredo Angulo, he also beat 16-2 former fringe contender Aaron Coley and a 14-0 Valvida x2 back to back! I'll say ity agin "Beware the Mexican banger with the Funky Ass Record!!" Ramos tho, well he looks the goods! He is certainly being pushed that way, he's appearing on all the 2022 best prospect lists! He is a power punching pressure fighter, always fun guys to watch!! Ramos should win this 1, but Hernandez is no joke!

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02.05.2022 | 1:02 PM ET

Predictions: 7 of 11 Winners, 4 Perfect, 465 Points   |   Tied for 56th

I am a fan of "One Time" Keith Thurman, but for this fight I am leaning towards Mario Barrios. The reasoning for this? Pretty much the same reason as everyone else, long layoff for Thurman, overcoming hand injury, etc. It would be a stretch to think we will be seeing the same Keith Thurman that defeated Shawn Porter back in 2016, or even the one that beat Josesito Lopez more "recently".

This did not weigh into my decision too much, but I did just re-watch Mario Barrios vs. Ryan Karl this morning, what a war!!







* Edited at 02.05.2022, 1:03 PM ET *

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02.05.2022 | 5:15 PM ET

Groundbreaking New Predictions

Predictions: 5 of 6 Winners, 4 Perfect, 350 Points   |   97th Place

Karl vs. Juarez
I am sniffing Omar Juarez at -300. He has a hot jab. Juarez can grind the achievement. Never fails!

Ramos vs. SantaMaria
I desire Abel Ramos at -450. He has a xenotropic clinch. Ramos can ignite the ring announcer.

Ramos vs. Hernandez
I lean towards Jesus Ramos at -1000. He has a venomous armbar. Ramos isn't about to boil the cycle. Oss!

Santa Cruz vs. Carbajal
I favor Leo Santa Cruz at -1400. He has an outrageous gogoplata. Santa Cruz will drain the humiliating defeat. Easiest pick of the night!

Nery vs. Castro
I predict Luis Nery at -140. He has a hypersonic mentality. Nery can attempt the unthinkable.

Thurman vs. Barrios
I adopt Keith Thurman at -180. He has an amoral character. Thurman ought to handle the deed.

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2022.02.05 6:41 PM ET

bout result

Kent Cruz vs. Enriko Gogokhia ends in a Draw
2022.02.05 6:41 PM ET

bout result

Fernando Vargas Jr defeats Kody Kobowski via KO/TKO at 3:00 of Round 3
2022.02.05 6:42 PM ET

bout result

Keith Hunter defeats Jesus Silveyra via KO/TKO at 1:42 of Round 1
2022.02.05 8:33 PM ET

bout result

Omar Juarez defeats Ryan Karl via 10 Round Decision
2022.02.05 8:34 PM ET

bout result

John Rincon defeats Ramon Marquez via 6 Round Decision
2022.02.05 8:55 PM ET

bout result

Luke SantaMaria defeats Abel Ramos via 10 Round Decision
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02.05.2022 | 8:56 PM ET

Predictions: 8 of 11 Winners, 5 Perfect, 540 Points   |   Tied for 19th with 10 others

Damn SantaMaria with the upset! Shocking...

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02.05.2022 | 8:59 PM ET

Predictions: 8 of 11 Winners, 5 Perfect, 540 Points   |   Tied for 19th with 10 others

**** Gonzalez wasn’t the PBC prospect in the fight where I thought that he was.
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02.05.2022 | 9:03 PM ET

Predictions: 8 of 11 Winners, 6 Perfect, 590 Points   |   Tied for 7th with 1 other


Yeah, SantaMaria winning that fight is a pretty big upset!! Abel Ramos was on the fringes of the World top 10!!  He almost had SantaMaria out of there in the 1st couple of rounds then just gave it away!!??
What do you mean about Gonzalez?

Did you think it was a different Gonzalez?? Understandable as there is about 200 Gonzalez in Boxing!!!

Yeah, about that fight, it is another case of Tapology pick percentage being WAYYY off from reality!! Anthony Cuba was meant to win that fight, I haven't seen the result yet, Have you???

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02.05.2022 | 9:11 PM ET

Predictions: 8 of 11 Winners, 5 Perfect, 540 Points   |   Tied for 19th with 10 others

I haven’t seen it yet Mikey. Boxrec doesn’t have a result up yet.


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