The Miscellaneous Thread

This Thread Is a Thread where you can post what ever you want from  **** posting to crazy stuff . Any topic MMA related to what ever you want to talk. Try and not be toxic arsehole. And one rule No Politic allowed because that what made people ****s

Let me Start, I find it insane it like 4 days to Chrismas , Im suprise it so close to the end of the Year,  Fells like Junes.Anyone have anything cool plan for Chrissy, I’m probley just gonna mess around at the gym 

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OMFG this is getting weird well personally Id advise against any advice that sounds like Family Guy.
If you like a girl just talk to her be yourself if that works cool if not shes not interested and you can move one.
Obsessing over ladies who don't want you will only lead to trouble, we all been there it sucks.
Good luck hope the fights start soon or I'll engage in more awkward confabs probably piss of some mofos..

Nah the stuff with the girl is fine. I'm under the belief the feelings mutual and she's giving me a bunch of signs to the point where if it isn't there i must be a schizophrenic. Probably gonna stop talking about my personal life to people on the internet. No offense to you guys but i'm just drunk rambling and i'll probably regret it if i continue 

* Edited at 01.29.2022, 5:49 PM ET *

@Tieoken that's just arrogance and self-righteousness. What you just did right there is the exactly how you get the people you despise. Denigration, rather than encouragement. I am also guilty of this, admittedly. But I try not to be. Ignorance isn't the same thing as stupidity and logic is universal. I understand that not everybody has tertiary education, and they absolutely do not have specialist knowledge particularly in fields like yours, but anybody and everybody can learn to break down data sets to a degree that will give them a reasonably well-informed opinion on just about anything. Will they be as good at it as you? Of course not. But passably? Probably--at least well enough to make their own personal choices of consumption. One does not need profound technical understanding of really anything to interpret results. For example, you do not need to know how to program a site like Tapology using rails to choose using it over a site like Sherdog--or to choose not to use it. Similarly you do not need to understand how a coding error or conflict in this site occurs to recognise a bug as a bug.

Since you brought up vaccines, I do not need technical knowledge of that industry to understand that my probability of long-haul illness and death from Delta--let alone omicron---is extremely low, even if I weren't vaccinated. In fact my being double vaccinated means nothing at all in the face of omicron and provides extremely little to no protection against it whatsoever.I know that natural immunity provides better protection than vaccination (on balance) whilst incurring a higher risk profile, and I know that vaccines have failed to prevent transmissions. Utterly. So there is no moral caveat for me getting boosted that I need to observe and no practical reason to do so, and I will not be doing that. I am up to knowing nine people who have been infected, now. The eldest being 72. None of them experienced serious illness, and none of them were boosted.

I don't know everything, Tieoken. That goes without saying.
But I do know what I need to know.
Maybe that will change, but that's how it is right now.

My view might change. It's a continuum. Like science.
Need I point out that you are not a virologist?


Statistics and methodologies are what they are. They are not unique to your industry, or any other STEM field. In fact I would be surprised if you even ever really employed something like multivariable calculus in any of your research at all. You might have learned about it, but you'd rarely call upon it. You think the math you use is difficult? Take a peek at what game developers have to contend with.  As I said initially, anything can be manipulated at the methodological level to either skew results or to produce data favourable to a narrative, or potential outcome. It's probably not possible to know exactly how that's being done from any one paper. That is why it is important to consume a wide variety of literature examining any given subject.

You need to stop demanding and start requesting. You are not the grand arbiter of truth, and nor should you want to be. Your role is advisory. It is not to dictate by fiat. Your industry and every other--scientific or otherwise--is not exempt from scrutiny. Not just from intelligentsia, but from the broader public especially. It is your job to convince. Not to tell. Stop regarding the rise of conspiracy theories and bad ideas which engender all manner of flaming ****tards as the fault of the general public and start seeing it as what it is; a failure on behalf of experts in the various fields of medicine to communicate facts adequately to it, and to report those facts to them fairly and accurately without big-money colouring them.

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Heh.

You love to see it.

Never mind not worth it.

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That was said in the context of Vaccines and Covid. Not diabetes. The analogy you have made just isn't useful. Someone who believes as I do that boosting isn't especially useful (it isn't) is not the same as somebody who believes that diabetes was invented by scientists. The data concerning diabetes and the treatments thereof is established and understood--and importantly, nobody is forced, coerced or extorted into taking those treatments. More importantly, they are not denied those treatments because there isn't money in it or they don't fit the narrative constructed by actors who own stocks and are lobbied by industries who don't stand to profit from them. If some idiot wants to die of a gangrenous foot on the basis of some absurd belief, whatever. That is one thing. It is another thing when POTUS comes out and says the unvaccinated are facing 'a winter of severe illness and death' referencing a virus with a survival rate of around 99%, or when advisory bodies wind back the clock and say that they never said that vaccines prevented infections, when in fact they did, absolutely, say that. I understand that the picture is more complicated than the case survival rate, and there are other things to consider, but the point remains, that is incredibly ridiculous and dangerous rhetoric. 

And Yes, I do what I need to know. I'll reiterate:

-Vaccines do not stop transmission.
-Vaccines provide little to no protection against Omicron.
-My risk of dying from Delta or experiencing long-haul covid would be negligibly low even if I weren't vaccinated
-Omicron is far milder than Delta.
-I have personally known nine people who have been infected across a range of age groups. None have been seriously affected, none were boosted.
-Natural immunity provides as good or better protection than vaccines or boosters at a slightly elevated level of risk.

Which of these things do you seriously contend with? Which are untrue? On what basis? 


It isn't that I distrust science. It is that I do not trust the interest groups and bureaucracies and corporations undertaking it in the context of covid--all of which have financial incentives to be dishonest, to utilise it in an entrepreneurial way. And That is because I have caught those bodies out lying repeatedly relating to this thing since the jump. When a child cuts themselves on a knife, I do not blame the knife. And this isn't your industry I'm talking about.

But make no mistake, Tieoken--if you ever did end up working for a private company, and you started taking their money because they were paying you to produce something to sell to me--I would start looking harder at what you had to say too. I'm a public choice theorist. Absolutely nothing I have ever seen in life has not been explainable to me via that one theory. It is undefeated.

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I'm thinking about getting back into Jiu-Jitsu, I think I could be a beast at about the  65kg division, I use to do it a few years ago, I still wresle my mates, I can usually hold my own unless i'm wresling my 90kg mates, They're stenghth just overide my tecqniqe

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BJJ is awesome. I know I can’t strike forever, but I’ll probably do BJJ until I can’t get out of bed.

Look @Fish, you’ve pretty much made your case for refusing to accept the truth in favor of whatever convenient beliefs you already have. You’re not even understanding what I’m trying to argue with you about. I’m not going to try and scream at a brick wall who keeps boomeranging my comments back to something I don’t care about. But, I’ll say this since you’ll actually listen to it, probably only because it has to do with you being right. 

I literally agree with everything in your list that you wrote. Except your second and last statements which are low key ********, but still unrelated to what I was trying to argue about.

The truth about what? If you agree with me then we're on the same page, epistemologically. If you mean in that list specifically, it's simply a fact that yes, my risk of experiencing severe illness from covid would be negligibly low. That is what the data tells me. It also tells me natural immunity is as good or better than vaccination at a slightly elevated level of risk. I have come to this conclusion by in fact not being ******** and  dumbly calculating probability as a percentage chance difference of hospitalisation and/or death in vaccinated vs unvaccinated, but rather have adjusted that difference factoring in variables such as age and comorbidities. 

Which isn't to say I don't think it's dangerous at all. I'd still rather not get Delta. Omicron I could give a **** about. Dying with and dying of aren't the same, but it's still not useful to point to someone who had cancer or something, caught covid and died and scream 'See! No healthy people die of covid'! Which is admittedly something I hear a lot. The point is they probably wouldn't have died if they hadn't caught covid. That's the better way to think about it.


I might have missed the point. But my original point is that peer-review isn't the be all and end all of Academia and that it often involves cliques of likeminded people. That, and it is possible to raise the general level of critical thinking and data interpretation in people without tertiary education, and people should aim to do this more often, rather than just parrot what the talking heads say or accept information at face value.

I can see why you'd be pissed off dealing with raging imbeciles that you and your partner have to treat. But that's the world. Some people are irredeemably stupid, some people refuse the truth even though they know it to be true for all manner of petty reasons. Some people are insane. But that's not the greater bulk of people who haven't attended University.

On the last point, find me an example. One example of a situation where humans have not exercised agency in such a way as to secure the most positive outcomes for themselves--materially, or altruistically. You're not gonna.

@Baldric Eggling

Thanks for the info! Some parts I understood, some parts I didn't but most of it I'm not even sure if I understand or not. I won't bombard you with questions as I'd be collecting my pension by the time I'd finished writing them all out but I have taken your advice about CMC Markets and created a burner Email account and set up a demo account on there with $10,000 virtual funds to experiment with so that it doesn't matter if I **** up. It gave me these options but I've just stuck to shares for now to keep it simple (silly me thinking you could only buy shares in businesses on the stock market!)





Judging by what you've said what I've researched so far (I swear every sentence I read in stock market for beginners type articles, there are at least 2 or 3 terms I have to look up lol!) I've only learnt one thing and that is that I am nowhere near ready to start risking any real money so I'll just learn through trial and error in the demo mode for now. That's probably my best asset in this is situation: I know virtually nothing about this but at least I'm wise enough to know that. Not only do I not know what I don't know, I don't even have the mental concepts about what I don't know. 

Anyway, I'll start making some pretend trades based what I think is smart based on how I interpret all these charts and graphs and see how it goes! Who knows maybe 20 years from now I'll be able to look Warren Buffett in the eye and call him a ******* peasant lol! 

EDIT: I've just Googled Warren Buffett and realised that he's 91 so if he's still alive in 20 years time, I wouldn't actually go up to a 111 year old man and disrespect them. I mean, I'm not Conor McGregor!

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Just practice on stocks, indices and shares. Stay away from commodities and currencies and futures--you just about need to be a ******* Genius to be a good FOREX trader, though I meet a lot of stupid people who think they are that. Ignore treasuries, Bonds are cancer.

Just fiddle around with stocks.

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@Baldric Eggling

OK, I know I said I wouldn't bombard you with questions but I've just ran into what I assume is an absolute beginners question that you could probably answer while in a coma so here it is. I've just tried to buy an imaginary stock in 888 Holdings but it says I can't do it while the market is closed or suspended. I Googled this and it says that the UK market (which I assume is what I'd be trading on by default?) is only open from 8am - 4:30pm (UK time). I'm usually at work during those times, depending on my shifts (hell, it's about 3am here and and I'm usually active at this time due to my completely ****** sleep schedule and Bellator) so why isn't the market open 24/7? Why not just have one big world market open all the time so anyone can buy and sell things any time?

As for why I went with 888 Holdings, I work in the gambling industry and they're an absolute behemoth in the industry but right now their chart don't look good:



I assume that it would mean they're cheap to buy right now and the Cheltenham Festival (which is huge in the UK gambling industry) is in March so I'd expect the price to rise back up afterwards and then sell. That's my theory at least.

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LOL ok, well there's different exchanges all over the world and they all have different trading hours. Kind of like how a KFC in your local area isn't going to be open at the same times as a KFC in Kansas USA. Except the NYSE isn't the same exchange as the ASX.

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@Baldric Eggling

So I can I just find a market in some obscure country that is open right now and **** about in that?

Also avoid buying in to maturated companies. You have to ask yourself where the new growth is coming from.

 I pretty much only trade on the NYSE and ASX. Both are closed right now.

I've been thinking about trying out bjj too. Only problem is we're still in a pandemic and I'm really shy (talking to people on forums doesn't count). I did do some judo during my early teens but I didn't really take it serious.

@Baldric Eggling

Wouldn't established companies be more stable though? If it's best to avoid big companies then do people actually bother buying Amazon stocks then? I just had the mental image of the ideal trading formula going like this:

• Pick company that's been stable for a long time
• Look at what sort of things affect it's value
• Wait until the value drops and buy shares
• Grit your teeth and hold out until the next rise
• Sell and reap in the profit
• Repeat, only this time on an a Caribbean island with a semi-naked lady who's miles out of your league wrapped in your arms