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08.25.2019 | 12:27 PM ET

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Bellator 233
  • Friday 11.08.2019 at 09:00 PM ET
  • U.S. Broadcast: Paramount Network
  • Promotion: Bellator MMA
  • Ownership: Bellator Sport Worldwide, LLC
  • Venue: WinStar World Casino
  • Location: Thackerville, Oklahoma, United States
  • Enclosure: Cage
  • TV Announcers: Mike Goldberg, John McCarthy
  • Ring Announcer: Michael C. Williams
  • Post-Fight Interviews: John McCarthy
  • TV Ratings: 314,000 avg. viewers
  • MMA Bouts: 14
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Bout   Info
Aaron McKenzie   defeats   Sean Clements   via Submission, Rear Naked Choke   4:31 Round 2 of 3, 9:31 Total Bout Page
Lucas Brennan   defeats   Jacob Landin   via Submission, Rear Naked Choke   3:38 Round 1 of 3 Bout Page
John Salter   defeats   Costello van Steenis   via Decision, Unanimous   3 Rounds, 15:00 Total Bout Page
Andrew Kapel   defeats   Muhammed Lawal   via KO/TKO, Punches   1:22 Round 1 of 3 Bout Page
Arlene Blencowe   defeats   Leslie Smith   via Decision, Unanimous   3 Rounds, 15:00 Total Bout Page
Tyrell Fortune   defeats   Azunna Anyanwu   via KO/TKO, Punches   1:56 Round 2 of 3, 6:56 Total Bout Page
Tyree Fortune   defeats   Chuck Campbell   via Decision, Split   3 Rounds, 15:00 Total Bout Page
Logan Storley   defeats   EJ Brooks   via KO/TKO, Corner Stoppage (Arm Injury)   5:00 Round 1 of 3 Bout Page
Julius Anglickas   defeats   Jordan Young   via Decision, Unanimous   3 Rounds, 15:00 Total Bout Page
Amanda Bell   defeats   Janay Harding   via KO/TKO, Ground and Pound   4:44 Round 3 of 3, 14:44 Total Bout Page
Kyle Crutchmer   defeats   Robert Gidron   via Decision, Unanimous   3 Rounds, 15:00 Total Bout Page
Romero Cotton   defeats   Jason Perrotta   via Submission, Verbal (Knee Injury)   2:16 Round 1 of 3 Bout Page
Christian Edwards   defeats   Cesar Bennett   via KO/TKO, Left Head Kick   0:16 Round 1 of 3 Bout Page
Grant Neal   defeats   Jimmy Lugo   via Decision, Unanimous   3 Rounds, 15:00 Total Bout Page

Responses

Bellator mma logo
2019.08.25 1:13 PM ET

event picks deadline updated

Fantasy picks now lock at Friday, November 8 at 5:40pm ET
Christian edwards hs
2019.09.13 12:48 PM ET

bout announced

Christian Edwards vs. Cesar Gutierrez at 205 lbs (93.0 kg)
Cesar gutierrez hs
Crutchmer
2019.10.05 10:47 AM ET

bout announced

Kyle Crutchmer vs. Antonio Jones at 170 lbs (77.1 kg)
Antonio jones hs
Leslie smith hs
2019.10.14 4:35 PM ET

bout announced

Leslie Smith vs. Arlene Blencowe at 145 lbs (65.8 kg)
Arlene blencowe hs
Muhammed lawal hs
2019.10.14 5:25 PM ET

bout announced

Muhammed Lawal vs. Andrew Kapel at 195 lbs (88.5 kg)
Andrew kapel
Tyrell fortune
2019.10.14 5:25 PM ET

bout announced

Tyrell Fortune vs. Timothy Johnson at 265 lbs (120.2 kg)
Timothy johnson
Julius anglickas
2019.10.15 3:29 PM ET

bout announced

Julius Anglickas vs. Jordan Young at 205 lbs (93.0 kg)
Ribz
Tyrell fortune
2019.10.15 4:27 PM ET

bout status update

Fortune vs. Johnson Changed from Confirmed to Fizzled
Timothy johnson
Janay harding hs
2019.10.16 10:09 AM ET

bout announced

Janay Harding vs. Amanda Bell at 145 lbs (65.8 kg)
Amanda the lady killer bell hs
Lucas brennan hs
2019.10.16 1:40 PM ET

bout announced

Lucas Brennan vs. Jacob Landin at 145 lbs (65.8 kg)
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Romero cotton hs
2019.10.20 4:26 PM ET

bout announced

Romero Cotton vs. Jason Perrotta at 185 lbs (83.9 kg)
Jason perrotta hs
Davion franklin hs
2019.10.20 4:29 PM ET

bout announced

Davion Franklin vs. Removed Removed at 265 lbs (120.2 kg)
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Aaron mckenzie hs
2019.10.20 4:30 PM ET

bout announced

Aaron McKenzie vs. Sean Clements at 155 lbs (70.3 kg)
Ribz
Grant neal hs
2019.10.20 4:34 PM ET

bout announced

Grant Neal vs. Douglas Felipe at 205 lbs (93.0 kg)
Douglas felipe headshot
Tyrell fortune
2019.10.29 3:21 PM ET

bout announced

Tyrell Fortune vs. Azunna Anyanwu at 265 lbs (120.2 kg)
Azunna anwanyu hs
Davion franklin hs
2019.10.29 7:41 PM ET

bout announced

Davion Franklin vs. Christian Adams at 265 lbs (120.2 kg)
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Christian edwards hs
2019.10.29 7:42 PM ET

bout status update

Edwards vs. Gutierrez Changed from Confirmed to Cancelled
Cesar gutierrez hs
Christian edwards hs
2019.10.29 7:42 PM ET

bout announced

Christian Edwards vs. Cesar Bennett at 205 lbs (93.0 kg)
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11.01.2019 | 1:54 PM ET

Predictions: 10 of 14 Winners, 3 Perfect, 640 Points   |   Tied for 154th

What’s this Grant Neal (Light Heavyweight) vs. Douglas Felipe (Flyweight)  ❓

This can’t be correct or someone’s about to die in the cage..  :-p
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11.03.2019 | 7:23 AM ET

Prediction Comments

Predictions: 9 of 14 Winners, 3 Perfect, 540 Points   |   Tied for 283rd

Neal vs. Felipe
Douglas Felipe, TKO, R2
so Bellator app has Jimmy Lugo fighting Grant Neal might make more sense than the Bantamweight

Logan storley hs
2019.11.04 12:50 PM ET

bout announced

Logan Storley vs. EJ Brooks at 175 lbs (79.4 kg)
Emanuel brooks hs
Grant neal hs
2019.11.04 12:57 PM ET

bout status update

Neal vs. Felipe Changed from Confirmed to Cancelled
Douglas felipe headshot
Grant neal hs
2019.11.04 12:58 PM ET

bout announced

Grant Neal vs. Jimmy Lugo at 205 lbs (93.0 kg)
Jimmy lugo hs
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11.05.2019 | 6:48 PM ET

Prediction Comments

Predictions: 9 of 14 Winners, 4 Perfect, 645 Points   |   Tied for 148th

Anglickas vs. Young
Jordan Young, SUB, R1
whys jordan young on the prelims

Storley vs. Brooks
Logan Storley, DEC
whys logan storley on the prelims

Tyree fortune hs
2019.11.05 9:46 PM ET

bout announced

Tyree Fortune vs. Chuck Campbell at 205 lbs (93.0 kg)
Campbellhead
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11.05.2019 | 10:42 PM ET

Prediction Comments

Predictions: 9 of 14 Winners, 3 Perfect, 540 Points   |   Tied for 283rd

Lawal vs. Kapel
Muhammed Lawal, DEC
I think Lawal wrestles his way to a decision.

Bellator mma logo
2019.11.05 10:51 PM ET

event picks deadline updated

Fantasy picks now lock at Friday, November 8 at 5:30pm ET
Crutchmer
2019.11.06 10:20 PM ET

bout status update

Crutchmer vs. Jones Changed from Confirmed to Cancelled
Antonio jones hs
Crutchmer
2019.11.06 10:20 PM ET

bout announced

Kyle Crutchmer vs. Robert Gidron at 170 lbs (77.1 kg)
Gidron
Davion franklin hs
2019.11.06 10:20 PM ET

bout status update

Franklin vs. Adams Changed from Confirmed to Cancelled
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11.07.2019 | 12:33 PM ET

Predictions: 1 of 4 Winners, 0 Perfect, 50 Points   |   Tied for 479th

Salter vs. Van Steenis
John Salter, SUB, R1
Van Steenis' only loss was to a roided up gorilla who held him against the cage for 3 rounds. I think Salter can choke him quick. 
Crutchmer
2019.11.07 4:37 PM ET

weigh-in result

Kyle Crutchmer: 170.4 lbs (77.3 kgs)
Gidron
2019.11.07 4:37 PM ET

weigh-in result

Robert Gidron: 175.8 lbs (79.7 kgs)
Tyree fortune hs
2019.11.07 4:38 PM ET

weigh-in result

Tyree Fortune: 205.0 lbs (93.0 kgs)
Campbellhead
2019.11.07 4:38 PM ET

weigh-in result

Chuck Campbell: 205.6 lbs (93.3 kgs)
Grant neal hs
2019.11.07 4:38 PM ET

weigh-in result

Grant Neal: 205.5 lbs (93.2 kgs)
Jimmy lugo hs
2019.11.07 4:38 PM ET

weigh-in result

Jimmy Lugo: 203.4 lbs (92.3 kgs)
Logan storley hs
2019.11.07 4:38 PM ET

weigh-in result

Logan Storley: 174.4 lbs (79.1 kgs)
Emanuel brooks hs
2019.11.07 4:38 PM ET

weigh-in result

EJ Brooks: 174.9 lbs (79.3 kgs)
Christian edwards hs
2019.11.07 4:38 PM ET

weigh-in result

Christian Edwards: 205.9 lbs (93.4 kgs)
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2019.11.07 4:38 PM ET

weigh-in result

Cesar Bennett: 192.8 lbs (87.5 kgs)
Aaron mckenzie hs
2019.11.07 4:38 PM ET

weigh-in result

Aaron McKenzie: 155.2 lbs (70.4 kgs)
Ribz
2019.11.07 4:38 PM ET

weigh-in result

Sean Clements: 154.9 lbs (70.3 kgs)
Romero cotton hs
2019.11.07 4:39 PM ET

weigh-in result

Romero Cotton: 186.0 lbs (84.4 kgs)
Jason perrotta hs
2019.11.07 4:39 PM ET

weigh-in result

Jason Perrotta: 186.7 lbs (84.7 kgs)
Lucas brennan hs
2019.11.07 4:39 PM ET

weigh-in result

Lucas Brennan: 145.4 lbs (66.0 kgs)
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2019.11.07 4:39 PM ET

weigh-in result

Jacob Landin: 145.6 lbs (66.0 kgs)
Janay harding hs
2019.11.07 4:39 PM ET

weigh-in result

Janay Harding: 145.6 lbs (66.0 kgs)
Amanda the lady killer bell hs
2019.11.07 4:39 PM ET

weigh-in result

Amanda Bell: 146.0 lbs (66.2 kgs)
Julius anglickas
2019.11.07 4:39 PM ET

weigh-in result

Julius Anglickas: 205.6 lbs (93.3 kgs)
Ribz
2019.11.07 4:39 PM ET

weigh-in result

Jordan Young: 203.5 lbs (92.3 kgs)
Tyrell fortune
2019.11.07 4:39 PM ET

weigh-in result

Tyrell Fortune: 247.7 lbs (112.4 kgs)
Azunna anwanyu hs
2019.11.07 4:39 PM ET

weigh-in result

Azunna Anyanwu: 264.9 lbs (120.2 kgs)
Leslie smith hs
2019.11.07 4:40 PM ET

weigh-in result

Leslie Smith: 145.5 lbs (66.0 kgs)
Arlene blencowe hs
2019.11.07 4:40 PM ET

weigh-in result

Arlene Blencowe: 145.3 lbs (65.9 kgs)
Muhammed lawal hs
2019.11.07 4:40 PM ET

weigh-in result

Muhammed Lawal: 193.3 lbs (87.7 kgs)
Andrew kapel
2019.11.07 4:40 PM ET

weigh-in result

Andrew Kapel: 192.7 lbs (87.4 kgs)
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2019.11.07 4:40 PM ET

weigh-in result

John Salter: 185.3 lbs (84.1 kgs)
Costello van steenis headshot
2019.11.07 4:40 PM ET

weigh-in result

Costello van Steenis: 185.4 lbs (84.1 kgs)
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11.08.2019 | 7:59 AM ET

Predictions: 10 of 14 Winners, 3 Perfect, 640 Points   |   Tied for 154th



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11.08.2019 | 10:21 AM ET

Prediction Comments

Predictions: 10 of 14 Winners, 5 Perfect, 715 Points   |   64th Place

Salter vs. van Steenis
John Salter, SUB, R2
I like van Steenis. Kid's on a tear. And as confident as ever after dispatching Mike Shipman. But I just don't know if he can beat John Salter and his big, dumb face. I'm still shocked Salter has won 16/20 fights....... And finished every one of them. Crazy. So far, it seems he's only struggled against superior grapplers. I don't think van Steenis is that. I'm sure he'd get close, but ultimately end up losing.

Lawal vs. Kapel
Muhammed Lawal, DEC
I find myself reeeaally thinking twice about this fight. In my head, that little voice is screaming at me. Just wonder how motivated King Mo will be for his farewell fight tonite. How motivated can a King Mo that's lost 3 straight fights, and 4 of his last 5..... All by KO. Is this just one last cash grab? How motivated is a guy that hasn't won in 2½ years. But even after all that. I think hed find the motivation to NOT LOSE to this dude nobody knows about. King Mo by boring ass snoozefest decision.

Smith vs. Blencowe
Leslie Smith, DEC
I just don't see Blencowe beating Smith. I don't see it. Arlene Blencowe's wins, are all ONLY vs. girls on or below her level. Everytime she's been given a step-up, she's been defeated. And Leslie Smith is tough as nails. She showed us that all the way back at UFC 180 vs. Jessica Eye when she showed the world her best zombie impression by being willing to let her ear detach from her face just to keep fighting. She's a savage. Blencowe isn't a savage. So I don't see her out toughing Smith either.

Fortune vs. Anyanwu
Tyrell Fortune, TKO, R2
Where the hell has Zu Anyanwu been!? I feel like I haven't seen him in 2 years. He had that upset win over Greg Rebello in 2017 on DWCS. Then had that Split Decision loss vs Justin Ledet in his UFC Debut, annnd then he disappeared. But it's all good. It's led him to this exact spot and its to give Tyrell Fortune a step-up in competition and I say it's time we see if Fortune can handle. I say yes. Should be fun while it lasts tho.

Anglickas vs. Young
Jordan Young, SUB, R2
This very well could be your fight of the night. If not, then round of the night. The 1st round should be insanity. These guys are both massive Light-Heavyweight's. And they're both cold hearted killers. But I gotta go with the obvious. That lone loss on Anglickas' record, is by submission. Annnd thats Jordan Young's strength. Bellator wants to see how much he's worked on defending himself on the mat or they think he can catch Young clean on the chin with a power shot, which he could. But........

Harding vs. Bell
Janay Harding, TKO, R3
Both these chicks have KO losses to another Featherweight on the card tonite in Blencowe. And both these girls match up actually pretty similarly. Everything's about equal, just Harding has a 2" height advantage

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11.08.2019 | 5:19 PM ET

Prediction Comments

Predictions: 11 of 14 Winners, 4 Perfect, 770 Points   |   Tied for 25th with 2 others

Salter vs. van Steenis
John Salter, SUB, R2
This is an interesting fight. It would've been better as a main card fight on a better card. Van Steenis looks like a decent prospect, training with Mousasi seems to be doing him wonders. Salter is 1 of those guys who you pick to lose cdoz he just doesn't look like he should be beating the guys he's up against. Yet he keeps on subbing them! This could easily be the classic prospect loss by submission to the more experienced veteran. But I'll go with the Dutchman or will I??? I don't fookin knoW!!!

Lawal vs. Kapel
Andrew Kapel, SUB, R2
I heard someone in an interview say that King Mo has been sick for a while, I'm pretty sure it was Big John on his podcast with Josh Thomson?, some sort of illness where Mo has lost a tonne of weight. I never thought much of it until I just watched those weigh ins and man Mo looks skinny! Like unhealthily skinny! Maybe I reading too much into it and making something outta nothing. But I get the feeling that Mo shoulda stayed retired. I can see another Daniel Strauss situation, where he just is not the same fighter from a few years back. Now saying that, Kapel isn't exactly the type of guy who I'd ever pick to beat King Mo, but I just can't shake the feeling that this isn.t the same King Mo, this is just plain Mo! I smell an upset!!! and it may be quite sad to watch

Fortune vs. Campbell
Chuck Campbell, TKO, R1
This is 1 of those Bellator cards full of squash matches! I see a lot of 1st round finishes for the favourites! This is about the only undercard fight I can see being competitive. Even then I'm struggling to pick Campbell. But he is the bigger, more powerful striker plus he is out of AKA. I think Tyrell is the 1 of the Fortune brothers to watch, Tyree is good but he been KO'd before, amatuers, Campbell is big, powerful and has dangerous striking. I'

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11.08.2019 | 5:24 PM ET

Prediction Comments

Predictions: 9 of 14 Winners, 3 Perfect, 540 Points   |   Tied for 283rd

Storley vs. Brooks
Logan Storley, DEC
If Storley can find a good BJJ coach, he might become unbeatable.

Grant neal hs
2019.11.08 6:17 PM ET

Fighter Announcements

Grant Neal vs. Jimmy Lugo
Jimmy lugo hs
Tapology Community Predictions: 392  
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KO/TKO
.
Submission
.
Decision
Neal
84%
Lugo
16%
Grant neal hs
2019.11.08 6:18 PM ET

Round 1 In Progress

Grant Neal vs. Jimmy Lugo
Jimmy lugo hs
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11.08.2019 | 6:23 PM ET

Predictions: 8 of 14 Winners, 3 Perfect, 515 Points   |   Tied for 308th

Just impulse-bought a year of DAZN, no more huffing glue on unscrupulous websites for me!

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Grant neal hs
2019.11.08 6:24 PM ET

Round 2 In Progress

Grant Neal vs. Jimmy Lugo
Jimmy lugo hs
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11.08.2019 | 6:28 PM ET

Predictions: 9 of 14 Winners, 3 Perfect, 540 Points   |   Tied for 283rd

@TWJake

You'll be glad you went ahead and paid for the full year.  DAZN has lots of great content.
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11.08.2019 | 6:30 PM ET

Predictions: 10 of 14 Winners, 3 Perfect, 640 Points   |   Tied for 154th

How much is it a year,  just curious ?
Grant neal hs
2019.11.08 6:33 PM ET

Round 3 In Progress

Grant Neal vs. Jimmy Lugo
Jimmy lugo hs
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11.08.2019 | 6:34 PM ET

Predictions: 9 of 14 Winners, 3 Perfect, 540 Points   |   Tied for 283rd

I think it's $100.
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11.08.2019 | 6:37 PM ET

Predictions: 8 of 14 Winners, 3 Perfect, 515 Points   |   Tied for 308th

100 per year, 20 per month

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Grant neal hs
2019.11.08 6:38 PM ET

Judges Tallying

Grant Neal vs. Jimmy Lugo
Jimmy lugo hs
Grant neal hs
2019.11.08 6:40 PM ET

bout result

Grant Neal defeats Jimmy Lugo via 3 Round Decision
Jimmy lugo hs
Christian edwards hs
2019.11.08 6:42 PM ET

Fighter Announcements

Christian Edwards vs. Cesar Bennett
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Tapology Community Predictions: 408  
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KO/TKO
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Submission
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Decision
Bennett
4%
Edwards
96%
Christian edwards hs
2019.11.08 6:43 PM ET

Round 1 In Progress

Christian Edwards vs. Cesar Bennett
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Christian edwards hs
2019.11.08 6:43 PM ET

bout result

Christian Edwards defeats Cesar Bennett via KO/TKO at 0:16 of Round 1
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11.08.2019 | 6:44 PM ET

Predictions: 11 of 14 Winners, 3 Perfect, 705 Points   |   Tied for 67th

First person SLEPT tonight!!  Wow

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11.08.2019 | 6:45 PM ET

Predictions: 10 of 14 Winners, 3 Perfect, 655 Points   |   Tied for 123rd

Edwards killed a man

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11.08.2019 | 6:45 PM ET

Predictions: 8 of 14 Winners, 3 Perfect, 515 Points   |   Tied for 308th

I gotta stop looking at my phone when I call a first round finish

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11.08.2019 | 6:46 PM ET

Predictions: 11 of 14 Winners, 4 Perfect, 770 Points   |   Tied for 25th with 2 others

The start of the Bellator prelims sacrifice hour!!!

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11.08.2019 | 6:47 PM ET

Predictions: 11 of 13 Winners, 4 Perfect, 715 Points   |   63rd Place

Yeah. I suppose I'll watch a few.

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11.08.2019 | 6:48 PM ET

Predictions: 11 of 14 Winners, 3 Perfect, 705 Points   |   Tied for 67th

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