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Is it finally time to admit Fedor was grossly overrated?
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- theMMAmessiah
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Not that he wasn't good for his time, not that he didn't accomplish a lot. But the fact is there were ZERO good HW's when he was dominating Pride. And this entire fandom talked about him like he was a god. It was laughable to even suggest he could lose. And this is what I'm referring too.
Can the old time Pride boys, finally, just come to this thread, lower their head, and admit that Fedor perhaps WASN'T that good??????
I mean jesus how much more ******* proof do you need?
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- CthulhuJones
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Every time someone who beat Fedor loses a fight from now until the end of time it's somehow evidence that Fedor sucked. The Bigfoot that fought Frank Mir looked like an absolute shell of himself. Probably because he's no longer on TRT or ***ever it was he got suspended for after the Mark Hunt fight. He got dropped and KO'd by Frank Mir instantly after having a 25 minute war with Mark ******' Hunt and taking some of his best shots. Is it finally time to admit PEDs make a huge difference in performance? Where was this thread when Werdum became interim champ? The same Werdum that fought at HW when Fedor did (AKA when there were no good HWs). I'll play devil's advocate to some degree here though. People who say Fedor was oh so great with submissions and would sub Cain need to pump the brakes and look at the guys Fedor subbed in his career. A bunch of guys who ******* SUCK on the ground. The only halfway decent fighter @ BJJ that he subbed was Matt Lindland who fought Fedor in a HW fight at 212 lbs, because **** it. The few times Fedor fought guys that were on his level BJJ wise (Arona, Nog, Werdum) he won by decision a few times, had a no contest, and got subbed in a minute. Fedor didn't have the greatest takedown defense, but was elite standing and on the ground. The thing that set him apart from other fighters was his fight IQ. He didn't do dumb ****. If he was fighting a guy he had an advantage standing with (which was roughly 99% of the time) he stood with them, but if they were garbage on the ground he wouldn't hesitate to sambo the **** out of them and then take a limb or their neck. His gigantic streak of wins being at HW is a pro and con on him at the same time in the GOAT talks IMO. He was a wrecking machine no doubt, but it was against HWs (some good, some not so good) who are notoriously less technical than smaller fighters, but at the same time it was at HW where one punch can end a fight instantly. I still consider Anderson and GSP better than Fedor. I don't care that Anderson tested positive for PEDs in his last fight either. If you think Fedor was clean while fighting in Pride just because he didn't look juiced, you're wrong, and you should feel ashamed. Hey, maybe that's why when he fought for Strikeforce he looked mediocre, because all of a sudden passing a piss test became part of the game. But to attempt to take credit away from what he accomplished because a guy who beat him coming off of PEDs got KO'd is dumb.
Fujita had him on skates though.
IMO a fight between Cain and Fedor would look like the fight between Fedor and Randleman without the comeback after the suplex. Fedor would get maimed. As for now, he is still easily the HW GOAT based on accomplishments, and arguably one of the top fighters ever. I'll let Wikipedia explain why:
Emelianenko began his MMA career on May 21, 2000, with four straight victories, including a win over ADCC champion Ricardo Arona, which is considered one of his toughest fights in his career. Then came a controversial loss to Tsuyoshi Kohsaka on December 22, 2000. In his next 28 fights up until June 26, 2010 Emelianenko was unbeaten, including wins over four former UFC champions, one Pride FC champion, one former and two future K-1 champions and two former Olympic medalists. During this period he defeated eleven top-10 ranked fighters (two of them twice), in addition to winning a rematch against Kohsaka.
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- CthulhuJones
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I think it's that they weren't single digits years old when he was in his prime. Possibly.
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- Itzz_Amii
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so he isnt in his prime in videos ? o right funny how that works sad as **** that half the people here would drink his piss then people that are not fans are noobs or kids its a trend didnt every say he was **** until i trolled the **** riders he has infact i said he was good in his time of not the best of his time but thats not good enough i have too suck his **** too if i want too fit in
sure someone even said oooh say you like pride if i want to fit in and thats fedor also
im done on this subjact its sad as **** how people act over a person they have never met
its my view right or wrong i dont give a **** if fedor gave a **** he would of went to the UFC too shut people like me up instead he went to strikeforce and lost anyway
now leave me out of this and stop staliking my page you creepers
this isnt aimed at anyone but who its aimed at will know :)
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- Itzz_Amii
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fedor in his prime was an elite heavyweight in his day!!!!!
today in 2015 fedor would never get ufc gold and would be lucky to be in the top 5!!!!!!!!
At lightheavyweight who knows
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- Itzz_Amii
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I dont care if i didnt know who he is i watched all his fights and can make my own mind up and dont need pricks like Anikm telling me what too think
Yes pal call me a how a silly little boy like would would not be able to come up with anything new
Fedor fans are like a jehovah witness and thats all i will say
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- Itzz_Amii
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LETS FOLLOW THE TREAD FEDOR CAN I SUCK YOUR **** PLEASE AND BEE LIKE ANIKM
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- Itzz_Amii
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bet Anikm is gonna send pics too be funny for him next he seems like the type
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- Itzz_Amii
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Ps anik im still a virgin and have no kids your mum has had you so i wonder what it makes that hoe
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I really admire you @AnikM, let's go to the school for the blind and throw rocks at children.
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- CthulhuJones
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today in 2015 fedor would never get ufc gold and would be lucky to be in the top 5!!!!!!!!
Yeah, he's almost 40, so there's that. If you're saying that his skills wouldn't translate to today, you might be slow. World champion in sambo, BJJ black belt, and able to outstrike K1 champions with ease. Yeah, he'd be a gatekeeper now. It has nothing to do with "fitting in". It has to do with common sense. I'm not a huge Fedor fan, and I realize that his fanbase is as extreme as it gets, but the guy was extremely elite. You said so in your own post so, *** is the argument you're trying to make? Also, I'm telling your mom about all the sexual stuff you've said on here and you'll be grounded from the internet for at least 2 weeks.
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- Anik
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You watched 35 fights in the span of 24 hours.
Yes I know you can make up your own mind, I'm not stopping you from that. All I'm saying is that for someone as dumb as you, you shouldn't trust your abilities to 'make up your own mind'.
Fedor fans are like Jehovah Witnesses?...what does that even mean? I would have came up with that when I was 11...and you're 16...
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- Itzz_Amii
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Anik is a ****** probs fights with alot of people here since his head is that for up his own arse
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- Itzz_Amii
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YOU CALLED ME A HOE
A VIRGIN CANNOT BE A HOE
GET OVER YOURSELF **** YOU **** CANADA
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- Itzz_Amii
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Mike tyson would kill fedor hahahahaha