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01.21.2012 | 3:53 AM ET
for some reason with his height and build I feel that he could easily fight at LHW. It may take him 4-6 months to get down there but it is feasible. I just think his height is going to be a hinderance as he goes up against the better Heavyweights. He is an explosive athlete at Heavywieght and I think the move down would really benefit him a lot.
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- wolfmanhowl
01.21.2012 | 3:56 AM ET
same height as rashad evans.
01.21.2012 | 4:22 AM ET
I think HD needs to drop to LHW. He is getting overwhelmed by the bigger stronger HW. He is a phenomenal kickboxer and a crowd favorite. His ground game, (while improving) is attrocious, and while I'm not sure he'd fare much better at 205, I think he has a better chance to stay in the upper echelon of the division. He'll never be able to beat top 5 guys at HW just because of the size and strength disadvantage. And if Pat really wants to be a top level fighter, he needs to devote more time to wrestling and submission defense. I think it would be a wise career move if he dropped down, and I don't think it would be that much of a challange if he does it the right way. (Strict diet, less muscle building exercises)
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01.21.2012 | 7:21 AM ET
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01.21.2012 | 7:37 AM ET
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01.21.2012 | 7:56 AM ET
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01.21.2012 | 8:13 AM ET
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01.21.2012 | 9:18 AM ET
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01.21.2012 | 9:56 AM ET
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01.21.2012 | 10:03 AM ET
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01.21.2012 | 10:06 AM ET
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01.21.2012 | 10:52 AM ET
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01.21.2012 | 11:06 AM ET
His real problem is that he's weak on the ground. He's only a white belt in BJJ and I've seen him get owned in grappling contests where he's got 50 pounds on the other guy. I think his Sub defense is a lot better than it was but I still think he needs to work on his wrestling/BJJ. With his build he could be pretty dominant on the ground if he advances skill wise.
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01.21.2012 | 11:27 AM ET
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01.21.2012 | 11:41 AM ET
Height means ****, it's about the build.
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01.21.2012 | 11:45 AM ET
When I wrestled I was built like a stump. I was 5'6" and 190 in the offseason but wrestled 171 during the season. People would see how short I was at my weight and tell me I need to cut to 160. It was funny because I was already 9-10% BF at 171. I was basically Barry's mini me as far as build goes. He could probably cut 10 more pounds but I can't imagine much more than that.
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01.21.2012 | 11:57 AM ET
As stated, Barry's not fat. He's just bulky and doesn't look too bad at the weight he's at. Plus, he probably feels comfortable at that weight, not having to worry about cutting weight.. so why should he move down? Yeah, he's a bit on the shorter side for a heavyweight at 5'11", but that shouldn't mean anything. People come in all shapes and sizes.
If you want to talk about height, first try to convince Jeff Monson to move down to light heavyweight.. or better yet, if we were going on height alone, try to get him to move down to welterweight.. since he is only 5' 9"... not going to happen.
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01.21.2012 | 12:24 PM ET
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01.21.2012 | 12:25 PM ET
Why go to LHW where the competition is much better, not to mention better wrestlers. People think because of his size he should move down, but look at the competition he faces at HW.
01.21.2012 | 12:34 PM ET
His problem is not the division but his skill set. He needs to improve his ju-jitsu, his wrestling and his defense. To try to lose all that muscle and then fight emaciated is just absurd. This is not the flabby Fedor we're talking about, but the hard, lean Pat Barry. It's that muscle that gives him his power in his kicks, and you want to take away all that power? That's like saying Brock Lesnar should have dropped to LHW to avoid the big boys. Get REAL.
* Edited at 01.21.2012, 3:20 PM ET *
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