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01.21.2012 | 3:53 AM ET
for some reason with his height and build I feel that he could easily fight at LHW. It may take him 4-6 months to get down there but it is feasible. I just think his height is going to be a hinderance as he goes up against the better Heavyweights. He is an explosive athlete at Heavywieght and I think the move down would really benefit him a lot.
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01.21.2012 | 12:40 PM ET
Bill Burgess, I don't think your in any position to say "it's one of the stupidest ideas I've seen here".
Because most of the stupidest ideas " I " have seen here, have come from you.
01.21.2012 | 12:42 PM ET
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01.21.2012 | 12:44 PM ET
01.21.2012 | 1:53 PM ET
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01.21.2012 | 1:53 PM ET
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01.21.2012 | 1:58 PM ET
01.21.2012 | 2:00 PM ET
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01.21.2012 | 2:10 PM ET
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01.21.2012 | 2:13 PM ET
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01.21.2012 | 2:28 PM ET
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01.21.2012 | 2:51 PM ET
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01.21.2012 | 2:55 PM ET
And to those saying he is quick at HW, well when you get lighter you don't lose speed you increase it. he would sacrifice some power, but he would still be stronger than most LHWs.
I posed this question originally not because of an issue with talent I just think Barry is fighting in the wrong weight class, I am not a proponent of guys moving weight classes because they are not winning and cutting weight is more justifiable than improving your skills. but at 5-11 240, I have a hard time ever seeing Barry as a Top 10 HW. I am not saying that he can be a Top 10 LHW, but I think that if he cut the weight his gas tank would improve and you would not see these blast outta the gates fights only to fizzle out and get put away. If he can sustain his attacks for longer periods without gassing he would have a lot more success and a maybe a move down would help him with that.
let the flame begin, form all the experts
"One does not hunt in order to kill; on the contrary, one kills in order to have hunted. If one were to present the sportsman with the death of the animal as a gift he would refuse it." Jose Ortega y Gasset
01.21.2012 | 3:17 PM ET
Seems to me you broke the site rule. It's fine to criticize an opinion. You criticized me.
And oh, by the way. I deliberately used to bring up controversial topics to stimulate legitimate discussion. To assist Gregory and Jeremy to build the site. I did what I did not only because I sincerely believe in certain opinions, but to Build Us Up. It's called strategy.
And since when are minority opinions bad? I invite discussion, but only respectful discussion as when friends spar. For Pat Barry to cut 40 lbs. of muscle to fight smaller guys is as extreme as ANYTHING I ever advocated.
Keep it positive. See? I avoided insulting you, so let's see if you can do the same. And saying you're only telling the truth and being honest is no excuse to go negative or being an ignorant *******. Calling me stupid is NOT calling one of my opinions stupid. You cannot tell the difference.
When someone gets personal, that is the red flag that they ran out of argument in defense of their position. They are surrendering, running up the White Flag, and admitting they lost the argument.
* Edited at 01.21.2012, 3:37 PM ET *
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01.21.2012 | 3:18 PM ET
"One does not hunt in order to kill; on the contrary, one kills in order to have hunted. If one were to present the sportsman with the death of the animal as a gift he would refuse it." Jose Ortega y Gasset
01.21.2012 | 3:23 PM ET
To suggest he drop to LHW is just so ridiculous. Frankly, it's one of the stupidest ideas I've seen here.
Them is fightin' words. You started it, so you shouldn't be surprised One Hit came back at you. Anyway, moving on...
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01.21.2012 | 3:25 PM ET
For him to fight at LHW, he will have to weigh in at no more than 206 on weigh-in day. That is around 36 lbs. He is already pretty hard and lean. To drop all that weight will weaken him to levels that no one can predict.
Frankly, I just don't think he can do it. I would doubt if Roy Nelson could do it and Roy has a lot more fat. Discipline applied in service of the wrong direction can lead to no good result.
* Edited at 01.21.2012, 3:32 PM ET *
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01.21.2012 | 3:30 PM ET
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01.21.2012 | 3:31 PM ET
I still think he only needs to cut his weight to 220-225 in order to fight at LHW, because the last 14-19 lbs would be done like a normal cut.
"One does not hunt in order to kill; on the contrary, one kills in order to have hunted. If one were to present the sportsman with the death of the animal as a gift he would refuse it." Jose Ortega y Gasset
01.21.2012 | 3:44 PM ET
How much better to train at the skills that hamstring you and round off your fight game. Barry needs to train at ju-jitsu, wrestling and defense. Changing divisions is a bad idea for him and if he is smart, he will ignore such terrible advice and concentrate on bringing his weak areas up to his strong areas.
* Edited at 01.21.2012, 3:45 PM ET *
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