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08.17.2022 | 3:32 PM ET

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Lomachenko vs. Ortiz
  • Saturday 10.29.2022 at 09:00 PM ET
  • U.S. Broadcast: ESPN+
  • Promotion: Top Rank
  • Ownership: Top Rank, Inc.
  • Venue: Hulu Theater at MSG
  • Location: New York, New York
  • Enclosure: Ring
  • Matchmaker: Brad Goodman
  • Boxing Bouts: 9
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Bout   Info
(Boxing)   Vasyl Lomachenko  defeats  Jamaine Ortiz via Decision, Unanimous   12 Rounds, 36:00 Total Bout Page
(Boxing)   Robeisy Ramirez  defeats  Jose Matias Romero via KO/TKO   3:00 Round 9/10, 27:00 Total Bout Page
(Boxing)   Richard Torrez Jr.  defeats  Ahmed Samir Hefny via KO/TKO   2:36 Round 3 of 6, 8:36 Total Bout Page
(Boxing)   Duke Ragan  defeats  Luis Lebron via Decision, Unanimous   8 Rounds, 24:00 Total Bout Page
(Boxing)   Nico Ali Walsh  defeats  Billy Wagner via Decision, Unanimous   6 Rounds, 18:00 Total Bout Page
(Boxing)   Delante Johnson  defeats  Esteban Garcia via Decision, Unanimous   6 Rounds, 18:00 Total Bout Page
(Boxing)   Troy Isley  defeats  Quincy LaVallais via Decision, Unanimous   8 Rounds, 24:00 Total Bout Page
(Boxing)   Abdullah Mason  defeats  Angel Barrera via KO/TKO   0:21 Round 4 of 6, 9:21 Total Bout Page
(Boxing)   Haven Brady Jr  defeats  Eric Mondragon via Decision, Unanimous   8 Rounds, 24:00 Total Bout Page

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2022.08.17 3:33 PM ET

bout rumored

Vasyl Lomachenko vs. Jamaine Ortiz
2022.08.17 9:59 PM ET

bout rumored

Jessie Magdaleno vs. Robeisy Ramirez
2022.08.18 11:31 AM ET

event start time updated

From Saturday, October 29 at 9:00pm ET to Saturday, October 22 at 9:00pm ET
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08.23.2022 | 1:00 AM ET

Predictions: 1 of 1 Winners, 1 Perfect, 75 Points   |   Tied for 248th

Man Loma isn't taking an easy fight for his return. Hope the ring rust isn't gonna affect him badly. 

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08.23.2022 | 2:33 AM ET

Ortiz is a good prospect but Loma won't struggle to dec him IMO. Stoppage wouldn't shock me either. I haven't forgotten how much hurt Adorno put on Ortiz and Loma is 10x as good as he is. It will look like Rigo vs Loma IMO. Basically Ortiz looking pretty bamboozeled by pivot/sliding counters and double-ups. Especially the pivot.

Not only Loma does this, Usyk does it also. I guess it's a Ukranian-born thing. Basically he will either throw a short barrage or a hook or feint a hook to get his opponent to shell and then step laterlally to their lead foot which gets him side-on to guard where he can land something good before his opponent can adjust to the positional change.

It's not a super-complicated trick but it's a ******* good one, and I suppose it takes thousands of hours training it to master. Everybody can sing but not everybody is beyonce. Thing is, unless his opponent has equally good footwork literally relative to adjusting/countering it..well, they're **** out of luck, which is why Rigo was made to look ridiculous by Loma. Dealing with it just wasn't in his wheelhouse.

It's not going to be in Ortiz's either.

* Edited at 08.23.2022, 2:37 AM ET *

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2022.08.23 6:06 PM ET

event start time updated

From Saturday, October 22 at 9:00pm ET to Saturday, October 29 at 9:00pm ET
2022.08.23 6:06 PM ET

bout status update

Lomachenko vs. Ortiz Changed from Rumored to Confirmed
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08.29.2022 | 4:19 AM ET

Predictions: 9 of 9 Winners, 2 Perfect, 545 Points   |   Tied for 121st

usyk does this because they are both trained by Anatoly Lomachenko Vasyls Father, it is very common in eastern europe and germany tho so i guess it could be based off style 

* Edited at 08.29.2022, 4:20 AM ET *

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08.29.2022 | 4:37 AM ET

Predictions: 9 of 9 Winners, 2 Perfect, 545 Points   |   Tied for 121st

Man im Hyped about this fight card 3 guys i really like to watch. Robeisy Ramirez in my opinion is a future champ he took on 22-0 Abraham Nova when he only had 10 pro fights which happens rarley ill take him via decision. But ill watch some tape of his opponent 
Man Loma vs Ortiz is such a hard fight to watch for me Loma is one of my favorites but ortiz is a prospect which i first saw against Jamel herring. I like both but i think Loma is going to win via UD 
2022.09.12 4:32 PM ET

bout status update

Magdaleno vs. Ramirez Changed from Rumored to Confirmed
2022.09.27 8:15 PM ET

bout announced

Nico Ali Walsh vs. Billy Wagner
2022.09.28 2:17 AM ET

bout announced

Duke Ragan vs. Luis Lebron
2022.09.28 2:17 AM ET

bout announced

Troy Isley vs. Quincy LaVallais
2022.10.06 8:42 PM ET

bout status update

Magdaleno vs. Ramirez Changed from Confirmed to Cancelled
2022.10.21 6:27 AM ET

bout announced

Robeisy Ramirez vs. Jose Matias Romero
2022.10.22 5:38 AM ET

bout announced

Haven Brady Jr vs. Eric Mondragon
2022.10.22 5:42 AM ET

bout announced

Abdullah Mason vs. Angel Barrera
2022.10.22 5:43 AM ET

bout announced

Richard Torrez Jr. vs. Ahmed Samir Hefny
2022.10.22 5:44 AM ET

bout announced

Delante Johnson vs. Esteban Garcia
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10.24.2022 | 9:58 PM ET

im excited for this fight card too and curious to see how loma looks. I guess we all know top rank is gna push the Haney vs Loma fight. If that fight actually happens which is a long shot to me, i would side Haney as the favorite. If Loma gets Ortiz outta there and he does it easy then maybe i will be convinced he can handle the other top cats at 135. but rite now idk if i am that high on loma vs tank, haney maybe even pitbull cruz. Commey, Pedraza, Teofimo jus dont do it for me. The loss vs teofimo i can live with and cant hold against loma cause it was in the bubble during covid. but yall saw what haney did to kambosas, he outclassed him bad. so for me if loma is in the teofima, kambosas class then ill take haney and tank all day. I like jamaine ortiz too he looked impressive vs herring, he was the fav and went in and handled his biz like the favorite should, if were gna give credit to shakur for beating up an aged Herring then gotta give Ortiz his too. so leaning loma by decision but still not sure yet. 

the co main should be a great fight too. i agree with what one of yall said ramirez is a future champ, hes a cuban gold medalist who has tons of experience despite the 10-1 record but he has POWER in those hands which yall saw last fight, he slept Nova who is a damm good fighter. but he is fighting a sampson lewkowicz fighter, his guys come to fight and pick up rite where they left off from Argentina. Romero has gone the distance with pitbull cruz and michel rivera, 2 very good young fighters. i gotta rewatch the michel rivera vs romero from last yr but I am leaning Robeisy ramirez he is just too good.

just some info and thoughts let me know what yall think
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10.28.2022 | 4:17 PM ET

Predictions: 9 of 9 Winners, 5 Perfect, 590 Points   |   Tied for 34th with 25 others



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10.28.2022 | 4:55 PM ET

Prediction Comments

Predictions: 9 of 9 Winners, 3 Perfect, 555 Points   |   Tied for 109th

Ramirez vs. Romero
Robeisy Ramirez, TKO, R8
Robeisy might just be the very best Cuban at the moment. His last few fights he's really put it all together, successfully transitioning from the Amateur style (he's a 2x Olympic Gold medalist!) to being an offensive, hurtful punching Pro. I'm fairly confident in saying that he fights for and wins a World Title next year. Romero is a tough, wily kinda fighter. Tough to look good against hard to hurt. KO would be a big statement

Walsh vs. Wagner
Nico Ali Walsh, TKO, R6
How many times are the ESPN broadcast going to mention Alis Grandson??? If the over is 100 I'm taking it!!!

Brady Jr vs. Mondragon
Eric Mondragon, DEC
Mondragon has the best chance of all the B sides on this card IMO. He's a solid fighter and Brady has looked both explosive and predictable at times. Also, the fact that Brady had to pull out of his last scheduled fight because he was over 5lbs overweight is a red flag

Torrez Jr. vs. Hefny
Richard Torrez Jr., TKO, R1
Left Hook KO in less than 2 minutes

Johnson vs. Garcia
Delante Johnson, TKO, R1
Keyshawn Davis is getting all the hype from the US 2020 Olympic team but I think Tiger is just as good. He has been knocking fools out and I expect h

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2022.10.28 5:53 PM ET

weigh-in result

Delante Johnson: 141.4 lbs (64.1 kgs)
2022.10.28 5:53 PM ET

weigh-in result

Esteban Garcia: 139.2 lbs (63.1 kgs)
2022.10.28 5:54 PM ET

weigh-in result

Haven Brady Jr: 131.0 lbs (59.4 kgs)
2022.10.28 5:54 PM ET

weigh-in result

Eric Mondragon: 130.6 lbs (59.2 kgs)
2022.10.28 5:55 PM ET

weigh-in result

Abdullah Mason: 135.6 lbs (61.5 kgs)
2022.10.28 5:55 PM ET

weigh-in result

Angel Barrera: 135.0 lbs (61.2 kgs)
2022.10.28 5:55 PM ET

weigh-in result

Troy Isley: 159.0 lbs (72.1 kgs)
2022.10.28 5:55 PM ET

weigh-in result

Quincy LaVallais: 157.4 lbs (71.4 kgs)
2022.10.28 5:57 PM ET

weigh-in result

Duke Ragan: 128.0 lbs (58.1 kgs)
2022.10.28 5:57 PM ET

weigh-in result

Luis Lebron: 128.0 lbs (58.1 kgs)
2022.10.28 5:58 PM ET

weigh-in result

Richard Torrez Jr.: 229.4 lbs (104.1 kgs)
2022.10.28 5:58 PM ET

weigh-in result

Ahmed Samir Hefny: 218.0 lbs (98.9 kgs)
2022.10.28 5:59 PM ET

weigh-in result

Nico Ali Walsh: 159.0 lbs (72.1 kgs)
2022.10.28 5:59 PM ET

weigh-in result

Billy Wagner: 159.0 lbs (72.1 kgs)
2022.10.28 6:00 PM ET

weigh-in result

Robeisy Ramirez: 125.6 lbs (57.0 kgs)
2022.10.28 6:00 PM ET

weigh-in result

Jose Matias Romero: 127.4 lbs (57.8 kgs)
2022.10.28 6:01 PM ET

weigh-in result

Vasyl Lomachenko: 134.6 lbs (61.1 kgs)
2022.10.28 6:01 PM ET

weigh-in result

Jamaine Ortiz: 134.0 lbs (60.8 kgs)
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10.28.2022 | 7:49 PM ET

Prediction Comments

Predictions: 9 of 9 Winners, 5 Perfect, 590 Points   |   Tied for 34th with 25 others

Torrez Jr. vs. Hefny
Richard Torrez Jr., TKO, R1
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10.28.2022 | 8:47 PM ET

Prediction Comments

Predictions: 7 of 9 Winners, 5 Perfect, 475 Points   |   Tied for 164th

Lomachenko vs. Ortiz
Vasyl Lomachenko, DEC
Lomachenko should get back on track with a win in this fight.

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10.29.2022 | 10:03 AM ET

Predictions: 7 of 9 Winners, 4 Perfect, 490 Points   |   Tied for 160th

I'm like a little kid, waiting for this fight tonight!  Hoping to see a fierce Loma!  Enjoy the night everyone.

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10.29.2022 | 4:15 PM ET

Noble New Predictions

Predictions: 6 of 6 Winners, 4 Perfect, 400 Points   |   Tied for 184th

Lomachenko vs. Ortiz
I like Vasyl Lomachenko at -1500. He has a bonkers oshi-dashi and a genuine axe kick and also a groundbreaking omoplata. Lomachenko will likely threaten the natural order. Clearly!

Ramirez vs. Romero
I predict Robeisy Ramirez at -2000. He has a jaunty fight IQ. Ramirez shall claw the cutman. Believe in yourself!

Torrez Jr. vs. Hefny
I have a crush on Richard Torrez Jr. at -10000. He has a noble left hand. Torrez Jr. ought to claw the chosen one.

Ragan vs. Lebron
I prefer Duke Ragan at -650. He has an amazing overhead chop and a jaunty harai goshi. Ragan ought to handle the enemy.

Walsh vs. Wagner
I take Nico Ali Walsh at -3333. He has an oppulent touch of death and a heavenly tsuri-dashi. Walsh ought to assault the corner man.

Isley vs. LaVallais
I am taking Troy Isley at -1500. He has a strong lapel choke. Isley won't prevent the masterpiece.

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2022.10.29 6:58 PM ET

bout result

Haven Brady Jr defeats Eric Mondragon via 8 Round Decision
2022.10.29 7:18 PM ET

bout result

Abdullah Mason defeats Angel Barrera via KO/TKO at 0:21 of Round 4
2022.10.29 8:00 PM ET

bout result

Troy Isley defeats Quincy LaVallais via 8 Round Decision
2022.10.29 8:30 PM ET

bout result

Delante Johnson defeats Esteban Garcia via 6 Round Decision
2022.10.29 9:06 PM ET

bout result

Nico Ali Walsh defeats Billy Wagner via 6 Round Decision
2022.10.29 10:04 PM ET

bout result

Duke Ragan defeats Luis Lebron via 8 Round Decision
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10.29.2022 | 10:22 PM ET

Predictions: 9 of 9 Winners, 5 Perfect, 590 Points   |   Tied for 34th with 25 others

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2022.10.29 10:24 PM ET

bout result

Richard Torrez Jr. defeats Ahmed Samir Hefny via KO/TKO at 2:36 of Round 3
2022.10.29 11:42 PM ET

bout result

Robeisy Ramirez defeats Jose Matias Romero via KO/TKO at 3:00 of Round 9
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10.29.2022 | 11:48 PM ET

Predictions: 1 of 1 Winners, 1 Perfect, 75 Points   |   Tied for 248th

Loma needs to shift into 2nd gear. He's lucky if he's not down 4 rounds on the judges scorecard. 

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10.29.2022 | 11:51 PM ET

Predictions: 9 of 9 Winners, 4 Perfect, 580 Points   |   Tied for 60th

Ortiz fighting a heck of a fight rn
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10.29.2022 | 11:56 PM ET

Predictions: 1 of 1 Winners, 1 Perfect, 75 Points   |   Tied for 248th

Got it 3 - 3 going into this 7th. Ortiz eye is swelling bad 

6 - 4 Loma going into the 11th. This is a really tight fight. 

* Edited at 10.30.2022, 12:14 AM ET *

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10.30.2022 | 12:19 AM ET

Predictions: 9 of 9 Winners, 4 Perfect, 580 Points   |   Tied for 60th

I got it a draw 
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10.30.2022 | 12:19 AM ET

Predictions: 1 of 1 Winners, 1 Perfect, 75 Points   |   Tied for 248th

8 - 4 Loma. Great fight. 

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10.30.2022 | 12:24 AM ET

Predictions: 9 of 9 Winners, 4 Perfect, 580 Points   |   Tied for 60th

117-11 lol 
2022.10.30 12:25 AM ET

bout result

Vasyl Lomachenko defeats Jamaine Ortiz via 12 Round Decision
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10.30.2022 | 1:16 AM ET

Predictions: 9 of 9 Winners, 5 Perfect, 590 Points   |   Tied for 34th with 25 others




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10.30.2022 | 1:21 AM ET

Predictions: 8 of 9 Winners, 5 Perfect, 540 Points   |   Tied for 130th


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