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Silva vs. Belfort II

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Oddsbot
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11.22.2015 | 12:31 PM ET

This is the official discussion thread for Silva vs. Belfort II. Let's see what you've got.

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Bout Never Materialized

This bout was rumored for this event but never officially scheduled.

Anderson "The Spider" Silva
Vitor "The Phenom" Belfort

fizzled

Anderson Silva Vitor Belfort

"The Spider" "The Phenom"

33-7-0   Pro Record At Fight   25-11-0
Brazil   Nationality   Brazil
Curitiba, Parana, Brazil   Fighting out of   Boca Raton, Florida
40 years, 10 months, 2 weeks, 6 days   Age at Fight   38 years, 11 months, 4 days
184.0 lbs (83.5 kgs)   Latest Weight   184.0 lbs (83.5 kgs)
6'2" (188cm)   Height   6'0" (183cm)
77.5" (197cm)   Reach   74.0" (188cm)
Team Nogueira   Gym   Blackzilians
Tapology Community Predictions: 127  
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KO/TKO
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Submission
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Decision
Belfort
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Silva
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skelliher
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11.22.2015 | 12:31 PM ET

Prediction: Silva  |  Decision

Probably gonna be the co-main.

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11.22.2015 | 12:44 PM ET

Prediction: Silva  |  KO/TKO  |  Round 1

Nice if true.

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11.22.2015 | 1:02 PM ET

Since it's in Brazil, does that mean we're looking at a Werdum/Cain main event?

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11.22.2015 | 1:05 PM ET

Prediction: Silva  |  KO/TKO  |  Round 1

Dtrain, that would make the event even better.

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11.22.2015 | 1:07 PM ET

Prediction: Silva  |  Decision

@dtrain  Most likely, in my opinion.

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11.22.2015 | 1:59 PM ET

Prediction: Silva  |  Decision

Seeing reports that it's the main ... very disappointing if true. 

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11.22.2015 | 2:10 PM ET

Pretty unenthusiastic for this fight at this point. It's like a "Must not lose" fight for both guys and I could see either of them getting better matchups for their place in the division.

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11.22.2015 | 2:24 PM ET

If this is the main event, they better stack the card. This fight is lame. If they wanted this fight to happen it should've been 5+ years ago....oh wait. It was 5 years ago that this fight happened and it was the only time I ever need to see these guys in the cage together. Regardless, this is a bad main event for a PPV.

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11.22.2015 | 2:42 PM ET

Yeah but Silva v Belfort III is going to be an awesome 'tent pole' event for Bellator in another 5 years!
GreenHornet
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11.22.2015 | 3:19 PM ET

Prediction: Silva  |  Decision

I hope this isn't the main event for a PPV card.  It would be pitiful if it was. 

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11.22.2015 | 3:20 PM ET

I agree, Zarog. Great co-main, very underwhelming main event for a PPV. 

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11.22.2015 | 3:26 PM ET

Besides, I don't see why they don't have a Werdum/Cain main event? I'd rather Werdum have fought someone else because this is a poor immediate rematch, but it looks like Cain gets the first crack at Werdum. 

It's in the champion's home country, Silva/Belfort would make a great co-main, and wasn't Werdum supposed to return around this time anyway? IMO, a PPV event should always have a belt on the line unless it's an amazing superfight. 

If RDA defends, I don't think he'll want to fight again this soon. If Aldo defends, there's no way he fights again just three months later. And I can't see any other champ defending their belt on foreign soil. Rousey just wanted to prove a point against Correia. Logically, it makes perfect sense to have Werdum fight on this card. 

* Edited at 11.22.2015, 3:27 PM ET *

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11.22.2015 | 6:10 PM ET

Prediction: Silva  |  KO/TKO  |  Round 3

I think it all depends on how much Anderson has fallen off, he did look a bit uninspired in the Nick Diaz fight, thought he won and everything but not a vintage performance and had to use PED's just to be ready after that nasty leg injury. Really a big question on both of them though, Vitor finishing a 45 year old Hendo doesn't really tell us too much about how much he's fallen off either. I'll go with Silva but wouldn't be shocked if Vitor starches him early.
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11.22.2015 | 10:16 PM ET

Prediction: Silva  |  Decision

Shows how fast the MMA world changes when we're cringing at a 2016 PPV headlined by Anderson Silva when he seemed unbeatable to start out 2013. 

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11.22.2015 | 10:22 PM ET

Prediction: Belfort  |  KO/TKO  |  Round 1

People cringe because  they are spoiled .... live in the dirt for a day and you'll be grateful for international superstars, such as Anderson Silva,  Cathal Pendred, Neil Magny,  etc

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11.22.2015 | 11:51 PM ET

@Wasteland If Cathal Pendred was considered an "international superstar" in this sport, I would have found a new hobby a looooooooooooong time ago.

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11.23.2015 | 12:22 AM ET

Prediction: Silva  |  Decision

@skelliher But, to play devil's advocate here, could it also show how fickle we as MMA fans are?  I mean, while it probably won't be as memorable and/or good as the first bout was at UFC 126, Anderson Silva vs Vitor Belfort II is still somewhat of an important bout in the UFC Middleweight division.  Both Silva and Belfort are still in the top 10/top 15 of the UFC rankings.

Granted Silva is 40, needed PEDs to recover from a serious leg injury, and is clearly not the #1 P4P fighter in the world that he was prior to losing to Weidman twice.  Furthermore, while Belfort gave Weidman a scare in the first round at UFC 187, he clearly has lost a step since coming off TRT and his win over a glass chinned Dan Henderson didn't do much to sway anybody.

Still, this is somewhat of a big fight with two of UFC's biggest stars, historically at least, in Anderson Silva and Vitor Belfort.  And yet we sit here unimpressed, hoping that Werdum/Velasquez II is tacked on to the card as the main event.  Do you think that that we would all be having this same jaded reaction to this fight if Anderson Silva never popped for PEDs at UFC 183?  I'm not so sure that we would.

* Edited at 11.23.2015, 12:24 AM ET *

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11.23.2015 | 2:45 AM ET

While many are not excited for this fight, I'm rather intrigued. There's many questions to ask, and this fight will answer those questions for both fighters.

#1. Who is really past their prime?

#2. Are both fighters still relevant in the UFC/to MMA?

#3. Will both fighters be able to pass a drug test?

#4. Will both fighters still fight the same style they always have, or will they show something different?

#5. Should the winner get the winner of Weidman/Rockhold?

#6. Should the loser of this fight retire?

* Edited at 11.23.2015, 2:47 AM ET *

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11.23.2015 | 3:23 AM ET

Who is really passed their prime? Are you ******* kidding? Both...WAYYY past it.

Are they Still relevant? Of course, they are two of the few big names in MMA.

Will they be able to pass a drug test? They are able to, whether they do or not will be seen..not a very good question.

Will both fighters show the same style? Well, since training at the Machida Dojo and getting his blue belt in Shodokan along with super steroid power level boosts, Vitor has changed up his means of fighting a little...now he's a lethal kicker too. Anderson will fight the same, but they will both be deflated **** bags of their former selves.

Should the winner get a title shot? Heavens no.

Should the loser retire? Anderson should have never come back and if Vitor loses he should consider it and if he wins, he should fight an actual contender and not another big name washed up old man.   

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11.23.2015 | 6:37 AM ET

Prediction: Silva  |  KO/TKO  |  Round 2

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