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08.06.2016 | 10:45 AM ET

This is the official discussion thread for UFC on FOX 21.

The event starts on Saturday, August 27 at 8:00pm ET

Predictions lock -240 minutes before the event start time

Enjoy the fights!

Saturday 08.27.2016 at 08:00 PM ET
U.S. Broadcast: FOX | Prelims: UFC Fight Pass
Name: UFC on FOX 21: Maia vs. Condit
Also Known As: UFC on FOX Vancouver
Promotion: Ultimate Fighting Championship
Ownership: WME-IMG
Venue: Rogers Arena
Location: Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada
Enclosure: Octagon
TV Announcers: Mike Goldberg, Brian Stann
Ring Announcer: Bruce Buffer
Post-Fight Interviews: Brian Stann
Ticket Revenue (live gate): $765,481
Attendance: 10,533
TV Ratings: 1.98M avg. viewers (1.12M FOX prelims)
MMA Bouts: 10
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Bout		Info
Demian Maia defeats Carlos Condit via Submission, Rear Naked Choke		1:52 Round 1 of 5 Bout Page
Anthony Pettis defeats Charles Oliveira via Submission, Guillotine Choke		1:49 Round 3 of 3, 11:49 Total Bout Page
Paige VanZant defeats Bec Rawlings via KO/TKO, Head Kick and Punches		0:17 Round 2 of 3, 5:17 Total Bout Page
Jim Miller defeats Joe Lauzon via Decision, Split		3 Rounds, 15:00 Total Bout Page
Sam Alvey defeats Kevin Casey via KO/TKO, Punches		4:56 Round 2 of 3, 9:56 Total Bout Page
Kyle Bochniak defeats Enrique Barzola via Decision, Split		3 Rounds, 15:00 Total Bout Page
Alessio Di Chirico defeats Garreth McLellan via Decision, Split		3 Rounds, 15:00 Total Bout Page
Felipe Silva defeats Shane Campbell via KO/TKO, Punches		1:13 Round 1 of 3 Bout Page
Chad Laprise defeats Thibault Gouti via KO/TKO, Punches		1:36 Round 1 of 3 Bout Page
Jeremy Kennedy defeats Alex Ricci via Decision, Unanimous		3 Rounds, 15:00 Total Bout Page

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08.06.2016 | 10:45 AM ET

The prediction deadline for this event has been changed.

Old Lock: -240 minutes before the event start time

New Lock: -210 minutes before the event start time

Predictions now lock on Saturday, August 27 at 4:30pm ET.

OutlawJoseyWales

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08.10.2016 | 6:41 PM ET

Predictions: 7 of 10 Winners, 2 Perfect, 495 Points | Tied for 307th

hell yeah PVZ vs Bec Rawlings. this has got to be a slug fest.

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rappinpapsoda

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08.11.2016 | 8:01 AM ET

Predictions: 8 of 10 Winners, 2 Perfect, 475 Points | Tied for 408th

I hope Paige can pull it off.

"The only thing predictable about MMA is that it is unpredictable."

Hyrm

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08.11.2016 | 10:48 AM ET

Predictions: 9 of 10 Winners, 3 Perfect, 565 Points | Tied for 65th

its not like if she had a toff fight for her level

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rappinpapsoda

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08.12.2016 | 8:03 AM ET

Predictions: 8 of 10 Winners, 2 Perfect, 475 Points | Tied for 408th

Correct but you never know. Sage was given a supposed easy fight at 200 and he squeaked by.

"The only thing predictable about MMA is that it is unpredictable."

dtrain24

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08.12.2016 | 1:46 PM ET

Predictions: 8 of 10 Winners, 4 Perfect, 540 Points | Tied for 112th

Paige is the more proven commodity than Sage at this point, though. You're right in that you never know for sure, but I feel more confident about picking PVZ here than I did picking Northcutt against Marin.

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Hyrm

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08.22.2016 | 10:47 AM ET

Predictions: 9 of 10 Winners, 3 Perfect, 565 Points | Tied for 65th

Looking at this card, I think we may see a lot of fight making the distance. Ko fans will not like it!

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logan

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08.22.2016 | 12:58 PM ET

preliminary card is too weak

legacyofmisfortune

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08.22.2016 | 1:42 PM ET

Predictions: 7 of 10 Winners, 2 Perfect, 415 Points | Tied for 688th

this has the undercard of a TUF finale

not much going on with this card in general

whatever small interest I had in A. Pettis, theres even less remaining after USADA, and a bout vs Oliviera at 145 does not tickle my fancy, Pettis wont be able to hang at 145 for long, he will probably get back at 155 after a couple of hard cuts and loosing against Mendez or Edgar.

Paige will probably storm Rawlings because thats what she does, and while entertaining I dont think thats what she needs in order to grow as a fighter

Miller vs Lauzon has two fighters that Ive been fan for a long tima and the first fight was awesome. But im not too interested in this rematch I think they could have set up better fights for both of them. and this fight probably wont be as exciting as the first one so I would rather keep the memory of the first fight.

Alvey is fun to watch (most times) he´ll probably put away Casey in the 1st rd.

the only fight that I have real interest is the main event, its going to be a battle of will and skills. I have no idea who would impose his skills over the other but im leaninig towards Maia.

* Edited at 08.22.2016, 1:42 PM ET *

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AnAlias

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08.22.2016 | 5:11 PM ET

Predictions: 8 of 10 Winners, 4 Perfect, 540 Points | Tied for 112th

rappinpapsoda

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08.23.2016 | 8:03 AM ET

Predictions: 8 of 10 Winners, 2 Perfect, 475 Points | Tied for 408th

Last 4 fights are solid IMO.

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SmokedTabasco

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08.23.2016 | 2:38 PM ET

Predictions: 6 of 10 Winners, 1 Perfect, 340 Points | Tied for 996th

Prelims are a bit sucky but the main event is worthy of my time alone,

no way do i see this one going the distance

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putaforkinya

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08.24.2016 | 3:14 AM ET

Predictions: 7 of 10 Winners, 2 Perfect, 430 Points | Tied for 625th

respect both fighters greatly and would be happy with either man getting the title shot. I'm leaning towards cheering for Maia though as if he loses I don't think he'd get another shot but I don't trust his cardio and so Condit might not be the best match up for him.
will be interesting to see though.

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rappinpapsoda

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08.24.2016 | 8:00 AM ET

Predictions: 8 of 10 Winners, 2 Perfect, 475 Points | Tied for 408th

Hard to pick a winner.

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AnAlias

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08.24.2016 | 7:42 PM ET

Predictions: 8 of 10 Winners, 4 Perfect, 540 Points | Tied for 112th

Kuma

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08.25.2016 | 12:11 PM ET

Predictions: 7 of 10 Winners, 1 Perfect, 390 Points | Tied for 809th

Personally I think Maia's finishing ability is a bit overrated,despite having out of this world grappling.Obviously a great finisher,but still idt it's as good as most people make it out to be.For instance, people saying if Maia gets it down he'll win,I think that's a silly thing to say.Condit has great bjj of his own,great submission defense and hasn't been submitted in over 10 years.Maia has only actually finished 2 of his last 8 fights,but has been looking great lately.He could finish Condit,I just don't think he will,just my opinion.If he doesn't get the sub he could grapple **** Condit enough for a decision,Condit's tdd isn't exactly the best.Fights are becoming much less predictable though these days.

* Edited at 08.25.2016, 12:13 PM ET *

wilflet

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08.25.2016 | 12:26 PM ET

Predictions: 7 of 10 Winners, 3 Perfect, 480 Points | Tied for 394th

agreed kuma- I think maia can get the takedown repeatedly and can keep dominant posistions, but it'll be a decision most likley, he dosnt take risks for submissions unless he knows its there- I only see the sub happening if Condit gives his back.

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Franklin880088

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08.25.2016 | 12:55 PM ET

Predictions: 6 of 10 Winners, 2 Perfect, 405 Points | Tied for 764th

I think you guys are vastly underestimating both condit ground game and his pace. You think Maia can keep up with condit for 5 rounds, I think you will be sadly mistaken. I think Condit is going to dominate and then hopefully get his rightful title shot.

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Bigj383

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08.25.2016 | 1:52 PM ET

Predictions: 8 of 10 Winners, 3 Perfect, 505 Points | Tied for 233rd

I think Maia will control position for the first couple rounds but Condit's conditioning will allow him to take over towards the third and he'll finish in the 4th or 5th.

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Kuma

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08.25.2016 | 2:44 PM ET

Predictions: 7 of 10 Winners, 1 Perfect, 390 Points | Tied for 809th

Sadly mistaken?I said he could grapple **** Condit to a decision.I have Condit in this fight and never questioned that pick.I think he finishes Maia at some point or dominates the 2nd half to a decision,likely a finish though.Which is why I responded after watching some of that video that made it look like Condit was doomed (at least the first third of the video or however much I watched).That's why I brought up my opinion that his finishing ability is a bit overrated and that I didn't think he'd sub Condit.

Such an interesting fight and style clash!I can't wait.Hate to see either lose too =/ If either guy loses that could be it for them,Maia's getting old and Condit talks about moving on from the sport possibly soon.

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