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- MikeAWhitney
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With Fedors most recent loss to antonio bigfoot silva. There was talk of retirement after his loss. Also Scott Coker talks of Fedor returning if one of the fighters gets hurt during the GP tournament. So my question to you is does he deserve it?
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- kallousklown
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hes gotta earn it. as long as he fights loser of werdum- overeem
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- DaiKaiju Wicked
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I hate the idea of someone who loses in a tournament getting re-entry. This is nothing against Fedor or anyone else, I just think it cheapens the tournament. If I had my way, if somebody got injured, I would just postpone the fight until the guy got healthy. But if a guy gets hurt I'd rather have an alternate come in who won a fight to be considered an alternate. So in this case, even though it seems silly because of the difference in skill, I'd rather have Shane Del Rosario in. Plus, at this point Strikeforce basically has an alternate bracket. Del Rosario, V. Overeem, and Chad Griggs are all in. Have Daniel Cormier fight somebody on the April 9th show, and then you have 4 guys ready to go. If all 4 of the semi-finalists are healthy for the second round, then have Del Rosario vs. Overeem and Cormier vs. Griggs. That way the alternates progress just as the main fighters do. It may just be my weird thing with tournaments, but this is the way I'd rather have it done, instead of Fedor coming in as an alternate.
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- DaiKaiju Wicked
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You know, now that I say that, why didn't they do this thing like Pride and have a 16 man bracket? If you already have all those guys ready to go, you do what Pride did back in the day and put all those alternate guys against the big 8 for the first round. Imagine if Fedor had been beaten by Daniel Cormier instead of Antonio Silva? Could've had more opportunities for upsets and craziness (although that may have made it more difficult for them to get the match ups they wanted).
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- Gregory
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I don't think anyone deserves to be re-entered into a tournament after getting eliminated from it. What's the point of having a single-elimination tournament if you aren't going to adhere to the basic concept.
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- SoccerKick
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@Dai your alternate tournament idea is a great one...They could let those guys continuing fighting and the last one standing gets a shot at the guy who ends up losing in the finals of the main tournament...Would give these guys an opportunity to make a name and become legitimate contenders.
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- TownStar
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I dont see a problem with Fedor fighting any of the losers, there is still plenty of interesting match ups in that. he doesnt have to be in the tourney anymore to still fight on these upcoming cards.
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- LynxGuy
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As much I still want to see Fedor fighting, I don't think it's fair to have a fighter who's already been eliminated from the tournament still competing while alternates are busy winning fights just to be considered as a replacement. If Fedor gets put in ahead of someone like Shane Del Rosario I think it would definitely make the tournament look less legit.
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- TheVigilante
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Giving Fedor a free pass back in would destroy the credibility of the GP. If he/M1/Strikeforce want him back in they would be best served to make him earn his way in with a win over one of the other potential alternates.
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- zerohours
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As a fan I would hate to see Fedor tossed back in the tournament, a head of the victorious alternates. However from a promotional viewpoint I can completely understand where Croker and Strikeforce are comming from. Fedor was the long time reigning HW king and has consistently been one of the biggest (if not the biggest) names that exists outside of the UFC. Therefore Fedor has more drawing power than a Chad Griggs or Del Rosario or V.Overeem. It will give them more of an oppritunity to make the fights seem appealing to the main stream fans and allow them to build there brand further.
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- Gregory
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zerohours speaks the truth
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- TacomaTerror
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Lol, like the rockie movie kind of.
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- MikeAWhitney
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Yeah have him fight an alternate, that can help allow him to get back on the horse if he can actually get back up there. I agree allowing him an immediate reentry would destroy the credibility of the GP.
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- jeremy
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personally, if fedor returns i'd like to see him do it at 205. he's a pudgy 230 and could go from being an undersized heavyweight to a HUGE light heavy.
think about the size difference at fight time against silva. it could have been 50 pounds. that's ridiculous. that's like frankie edgar fighting shogun. (not as a percentage of body mass, but in flat weight differential).
fedor isn't getting outclassed, he's getting outsized.
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- ksturdiv
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I like seeing Fedor fight but I don't think he should have a pass but with M-1 as a co-promoter they can be forcing Coker's hand in the matter
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I think back to fedors arona fight, i also think back before recently the people fedor struggled with were the smaller heavyweights most of whom were 205 guys most of the time. Fedors skills and surprising strength kept him at the top of the hw ranks because he showed skill does more than size. Hw has always been the least skilled weight class and now skills are catching up. Fedor would do well at 205 assuming he didnt lose endurance or strength due to the cut, but hed get beat here and there too. 205 is (and has always been) the most competitive weight class in mma. Everyone has power to end a night, everyone has decent to excellent grappling and everyone has the strength to power thru a lot of aspects of the ground game and while having the skills on top of that. Everyone at the top of the 205's has great endurance and durability, which is something fedor wouldnt be used to. Hes beat a ton of excellent fighters but i think some of his wins are directly attributed to him being faster and more skilled than the "plodding oaf" he was fighting, at 205 that aspect of things would be gone.
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- TownStar
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What is the actual likely hood of him moving down to 205? I think it is a viable opportunity to shoot some much needed juice into the tail end of his career, but can he make the cut. Not only can he make the cut, but can he do it in way to not leave himself depleted come fight night? He has never had to watch weight or cut in his career before.
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- Piercerdan
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@townstar, i dont think its a matter of can he, its more of a would he.
If he watched what he ate, hired a nutritionist to keep him in line with it, the weight would drop off of him pretty quickly really. Fedor is in good shape he just has extra fat.
I think if he got a decent nutritionist, or maybe the dolce diet (hes been doing great lately and the look on dolces face at the vitor silva weighins was awesome!!) and joined a solid camp instead of the wilderness in russia he could still be a top contender. Really with no changes whatsoever he is still a top heavyweight and would be a favourite against most.
hope fedor has a great comeback and i hope he changes some things up to see if he can take his career of amazing wins up to a level probably never to be surpassed.